CanadianCray
February 3rd 06, 03:35 AM
Check this!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/forumapc/showthread.php?t=1009&highlight=luxeon
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"CanadianCray" > wrote in message news:...
> Check this!!!!!!!!!!
>
> http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/forumapc/showthread.php?t=1009&highlight=luxeon
>
> NOT CHEAP
>
> "NetMax" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> "Richard Sexton" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>>> mylar and urethane glue it to the inside of the canopy.
>>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the link. I'm resurrecting an old 120g and I'll probably
>>>>build a new canopy for it. I can have something made out of stainless
>>>>steel, so shape is not an issue. The tank top is 60" x 18". I usually
>>>>order glass plates to cover the top and then install the lighting in a
>>>>sliding or fixed canopy, in this case, four 4' fluorescent lamps would
>>>>be
>>>>my typical approach. On my last canopy, I used the following:
>>>>2 Philips F40-DX Daylight CRI 85, 6500K $3cdn each (Home Depot)
>>>>1 Sylvania F40/GRO/AQ/WS Gro-Lux $7.50cdn (Home Hardware)
>>>>1 GE F40C50 Chroma 50 Sunshine CRI 90, 5000K $7cdn (Canadian Tire)
>>>>..which provided a wide bright spectrum.
>>>>
>>>>With your experience with these screw-in fluorescents, do you think it
>>>>is
>>>>worthwhile investigating their use, or do you think I should stick with
>>>>my garden-variety and inexpensive approach using multiple inexpensive
>>>>lamps?
>>>
>>> If it's all you have, screwins are ok. Just. But you're not gonna
>>> light up a 120 with them unless you want the moral equivalent of
>>> LED moonlighting.
>>>
>>> We've oulived the T12 era and I'd only consuider compact flourescent,
>>> T5 or T8. T8's you can get a in a pinch at green home recycling centers,
>>> only buy ones with reaaly good angled polished aluminum reflectors, pass
>>> on any that have white reflectors. T5's I'd be surprised if you could
>>> find in places like this, but I did find a bunch of CF twin 40W fixtures
>>> last year (woo hoo!) so it could happen.
>>>
>>>>I looked into halogen spot lighting, but their efficiency is not much
>>>>better than incandescent, though I may still use it for accents (I want
>>>>that shadow ripple across the bottom of the tank for the evening
>>>>transition), and for helping certain plants.
>>>
>>> Yeah, I do that too.
>>>
>>>>I have the feeling that if I can wait long enough, there will be a
>>>>solution available using LEDs. Now that would be interesting,
>>>>especially
>>>>is I could dim them, and turn on different banks for changes in hue (a
>>>>slight blue tinge in an open area, red-brown hue over the plants).
>>>
>>> Crappy tire sells a cheap 35 or 70W HPS(1) fixture and bulb. And an even
>>> cheaper mercury one. I'm just sayin..
>>>
>>> Chose something that uses cheap (ie theres lots of them made) tubes.
>>> Color
>>> is personal taste - warm whiteif you prefer red, daylight if you prefer
>>> blue. I like the look of C50's and grolux but I'm not convinced they
>>> have
>>> any effect on plant growth whatsoever.
>>>
>>> (1) 12000 lumens from 70W or something like that. A 40W tube is about
>>> 3000 lumens.
>>> T8 or T12 or CF.
>>> --
>>> Need Mercedes parts ? - http://parts.mbz.org
>>> Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org
>>> 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home page: http://rs79.vrx.net
>>> 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net
>>
>>
>> At 190 lumens/watt, the Luxeons rival the intensity of the fluorescent,
>> so this will be something I'm going to gather some data sheets on (CRI,
>> MTBF, efficiency etc). By the time I'm ready to purchase them, they
>> might even be affordable, otherwise I've been known to occasionally spend
>> too much on this hobby ;~).
>>
>> Alternately, the T8 route would probably be the right way to go, thanks.
>> --
>> www.NetMax.tk
>>
>
>
http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/forumapc/showthread.php?t=1009&highlight=luxeon
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"CanadianCray" > wrote in message news:...
> Check this!!!!!!!!!!
>
> http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/forumapc/showthread.php?t=1009&highlight=luxeon
>
> NOT CHEAP
>
> "NetMax" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> "Richard Sexton" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>>> mylar and urethane glue it to the inside of the canopy.
>>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the link. I'm resurrecting an old 120g and I'll probably
>>>>build a new canopy for it. I can have something made out of stainless
>>>>steel, so shape is not an issue. The tank top is 60" x 18". I usually
>>>>order glass plates to cover the top and then install the lighting in a
>>>>sliding or fixed canopy, in this case, four 4' fluorescent lamps would
>>>>be
>>>>my typical approach. On my last canopy, I used the following:
>>>>2 Philips F40-DX Daylight CRI 85, 6500K $3cdn each (Home Depot)
>>>>1 Sylvania F40/GRO/AQ/WS Gro-Lux $7.50cdn (Home Hardware)
>>>>1 GE F40C50 Chroma 50 Sunshine CRI 90, 5000K $7cdn (Canadian Tire)
>>>>..which provided a wide bright spectrum.
>>>>
>>>>With your experience with these screw-in fluorescents, do you think it
>>>>is
>>>>worthwhile investigating their use, or do you think I should stick with
>>>>my garden-variety and inexpensive approach using multiple inexpensive
>>>>lamps?
>>>
>>> If it's all you have, screwins are ok. Just. But you're not gonna
>>> light up a 120 with them unless you want the moral equivalent of
>>> LED moonlighting.
>>>
>>> We've oulived the T12 era and I'd only consuider compact flourescent,
>>> T5 or T8. T8's you can get a in a pinch at green home recycling centers,
>>> only buy ones with reaaly good angled polished aluminum reflectors, pass
>>> on any that have white reflectors. T5's I'd be surprised if you could
>>> find in places like this, but I did find a bunch of CF twin 40W fixtures
>>> last year (woo hoo!) so it could happen.
>>>
>>>>I looked into halogen spot lighting, but their efficiency is not much
>>>>better than incandescent, though I may still use it for accents (I want
>>>>that shadow ripple across the bottom of the tank for the evening
>>>>transition), and for helping certain plants.
>>>
>>> Yeah, I do that too.
>>>
>>>>I have the feeling that if I can wait long enough, there will be a
>>>>solution available using LEDs. Now that would be interesting,
>>>>especially
>>>>is I could dim them, and turn on different banks for changes in hue (a
>>>>slight blue tinge in an open area, red-brown hue over the plants).
>>>
>>> Crappy tire sells a cheap 35 or 70W HPS(1) fixture and bulb. And an even
>>> cheaper mercury one. I'm just sayin..
>>>
>>> Chose something that uses cheap (ie theres lots of them made) tubes.
>>> Color
>>> is personal taste - warm whiteif you prefer red, daylight if you prefer
>>> blue. I like the look of C50's and grolux but I'm not convinced they
>>> have
>>> any effect on plant growth whatsoever.
>>>
>>> (1) 12000 lumens from 70W or something like that. A 40W tube is about
>>> 3000 lumens.
>>> T8 or T12 or CF.
>>> --
>>> Need Mercedes parts ? - http://parts.mbz.org
>>> Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org
>>> 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home page: http://rs79.vrx.net
>>> 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net
>>
>>
>> At 190 lumens/watt, the Luxeons rival the intensity of the fluorescent,
>> so this will be something I'm going to gather some data sheets on (CRI,
>> MTBF, efficiency etc). By the time I'm ready to purchase them, they
>> might even be affordable, otherwise I've been known to occasionally spend
>> too much on this hobby ;~).
>>
>> Alternately, the T8 route would probably be the right way to go, thanks.
>> --
>> www.NetMax.tk
>>
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