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2pods
February 4th 06, 12:12 AM
I've just noticed on my three gold veiltail angels what looks like small
round growths towards the end of the filaments.

The ray of the fin comes most of the way to the end, then this little
ball-like thing then continues to the end.

There are no spots or marks on their bodies and they are behaving normally.
Water checks out fine with no spikes of anything (25% changed weekly).

400ltr tank, 300w heater, XP3 cannister and Juwel internal filters plus UV.
2 x 38w T8.

Any ideas ?

Peter

dc
February 4th 06, 12:43 AM
"2pods" > wrote in :

> I've just noticed on my three gold veiltail angels what looks like
> small round growths towards the end of the filaments.
>
> The ray of the fin comes most of the way to the end, then this little
> ball-like thing then continues to the end.
>
> Any ideas ?

It could be ich, but it sounds like a cyst of some sort... possibly due to
injury or insult or bad genes. P. scalare has been bread selectively
almost as much as the livebearers have. Selective breeding to that degree
often introduces genetic abnormalities or vulnerabilities.

From what you describe it doesn't sound like any sort of obvious parasite.
If it was ich it would appear as tiny salt-like crystals, first on the fins
and then eventually spreading to the entire fish.

How long have the angels been in your tank?

2pods
February 4th 06, 12:11 PM
"dc" > wrote in message
...
> "2pods" > wrote in :
>
>> I've just noticed on my three gold veiltail angels what looks like
>> small round growths towards the end of the filaments.
>>
>> The ray of the fin comes most of the way to the end, then this little
>> ball-like thing then continues to the end.
>>
>> Any ideas ?
>
> It could be ich, but it sounds like a cyst of some sort... possibly due to
> injury or insult or bad genes. P. scalare has been bread selectively
> almost as much as the livebearers have. Selective breeding to that degree
> often introduces genetic abnormalities or vulnerabilities.
>
> From what you describe it doesn't sound like any sort of obvious parasite.
> If it was ich it would appear as tiny salt-like crystals, first on the
> fins
> and then eventually spreading to the entire fish.
>
> How long have the angels been in your tank?

Tank has been running for two years.
The angels have been in there for the same length of time.

I don't think it's Ich ( touch wood ) as the the other two angels (koi
pearlscale and blushing) don't have it.
Then again, they don't have long flowing fins.

The rest of the residents ( 4 CL, 6 corys, 6 platies, 2 danios, 3 SAE ) are
fine.

Cyst is exactly how I should have described it.
I'll keep watching them.

Peter

dc
February 8th 06, 05:20 AM
"2pods" > wrote in :

> I don't think it's Ich ( touch wood ) as the the other two angels (koi

Ich really isn't that dangerous unless your fish are already in bad shape.
There are plenty of other things that are a lot harder to deal with.


> The rest of the residents ( 4 CL, 6 corys, 6 platies, 2 danios, 3 SAE
> ) are fine.
>
> Cyst is exactly how I should have described it.
> I'll keep watching them.

The cyst could be inflammation caused by a bite wound. I wouldn't put it
past a SAE to nip at long flowing fins. They tend to get a more
belligerent with age and size. I've heard people claim to have extremely
aggressive male platies too, but a respectably sized angel should be able
to deal with them.

If the flesh around the cyst turns red you may want to consider treating
your tank with a mild anti-bacterial/fungal med. Melefix is pretty
harmless and can generally prevent infection of most superficial wounds.

2pods
February 8th 06, 01:20 PM
"dc" > wrote in message
.. .
> "2pods" > wrote in :
>
>> I don't think it's Ich ( touch wood ) as the the other two angels (koi
>
> Ich really isn't that dangerous unless your fish are already in bad shape.
> There are plenty of other things that are a lot harder to deal with.
>
>
>> The rest of the residents ( 4 CL, 6 corys, 6 platies, 2 danios, 3 SAE
>> ) are fine.
>>
>> Cyst is exactly how I should have described it.
>> I'll keep watching them.
>
> The cyst could be inflammation caused by a bite wound. I wouldn't put it
> past a SAE to nip at long flowing fins. They tend to get a more
> belligerent with age and size. I've heard people claim to have extremely
> aggressive male platies too, but a respectably sized angel should be able
> to deal with them.
>
> If the flesh around the cyst turns red you may want to consider treating
> your tank with a mild anti-bacterial/fungal med. Melefix is pretty
> harmless and can generally prevent infection of most superficial wounds.

Still the same.
No redness, no difference in behaviour etc.

Peter