Regarding our trolls

[Mean_Chlorine]

I don't know if ANY of the purported posters taking part in the
present troll-threads are real people, or if it's just one or a two
trolls under a variety of guises, and I don't care enough to check,
but if there are any real people taking part, and especially if
there's any real people among those being accused/accusing of
real-world crimes, you might want to contact the authorities.
Seriously. I've seen a lot of trolls, and this troll is particularly
malicious and vile - I wouldn't consider it impossible that it's
real-world dangerous.

IF, as I said, any actual functioning humans are at all involved, and
not just a gaggle of trolls.

I'll now go back to studiously ignoring all troll threads, killfiling
all who participate, and I hope all legitimate posters to r.a.f.m.
follow suit.

[cat daddy]

That's it in a nutshell. Carol bleating to law enforcement over Usenet.
Of course, her deranged "crusade" to save JWs, who she blames for her
screwed up life, manifests itself in demented ways and we all suffer.

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
>
> What a joke yu are carol.Cops finding and arresting trolls on the
> internet because they do not agree with your posts....your are a
> pathetic indivdual even thinking that.......your assinine.......Since
> the law supposedly knows all about this crap and its been going on
> for years, actually, its mighty strange no actin has been taken in all
> that time, yet yu feel the need to state they are acting on it....Get
> a freaking clue carol your a dip **** of the first degree and don;t
> have a clue one way or another about anything you say..........dream
> on bimbo dream on........uh oh,,look out there is Jabbers behind that
> kiddie pool with a molotove cocktail, oh and there goes cat daddy with
> a M-79 grenade launcher behind your outhouse, and wow, there is snooze
> coming out of your house with one of yur goldfish held hostage, and
> lets see now, where might roy be..............oh he is in youor house
> drinking your cold beer and posting all this crap on your computer, as
> he needed a break since he just cut ylur bettas throat with a
> machette...........your a drivaling wacko.
> I bet those cops you supposedly keep contacting **** their pants every
> time you call with laughter from the contents of hearing yur reports
> and accusations........I think they are probbaly counting down and
> will eventually call the guys in white coats and restraints, as they
> have a room for you that is rubber lined....
>
>
> On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 10:58:36 -0600, "Koi-Lo" >
> wrote:
> >><>
> >><>"Mean_Chlorine" > wrote in message
> ...
> >><>>I don't know if ANY of the purported posters taking part in the
> >><>> present troll-threads are real people, or if it's just one or a two
> >><>> trolls under a variety of guises, and I don't care enough to check,
> >><>
> >><>There are four of them using different ISPs, that is for certain. Two
are
> >><>also suspected of using remailers.
> >><>
> >><>> but if there are any real people taking part, and especially if
> >><>> there's any real people among those being accused/accusing of
> >><>> real-world crimes, you might want to contact the authorities.
> >><>
> >><>The authorities in both Murfreesboro TN and Camden NJ have been
contacted

<snip>

[Billy]

1: The majority of USENET is unmoderated. There are no moderators.
It's public. Self-moderation is about all there is. <g>
2: The rather 'infamous' troll, Carol, uses such a variety of
remailers and strawmen that KF'ing her is an exercise in futility. As
soon as she, and the other sad, pathetic individuals that waste their
lives with this kind of horsesh*t realize that not enough people are
seeing their tripe, they just change accounts.

<shrug>

All you can do is ignore it, and try not to get involved. Or you can
have fun with it. Whatever your preference. :)

b.

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"George Orwell" > wrote in message
...
> Why don't you killfile her instead of >
> Your not the moderater and

[Koi-Lo]

"Billy" > wrote in message
...
> 2: The rather 'infamous' troll, Carol, .........
============
You consider posts about aquariums and fish TROLL messages on aquarium
groups? What am I supposed to post about here? Bird watching? Stamp
collecting? Posting about fish and ponds on a pond group is trolling? It
appears you don't understand the meaning of the word. Troll Information:
http://tinyurl.com/9zbh or http://tinyurl.com/d8e4 .

Are you aware of what ISPs or NSPs are? Evidently not. Reading Headers:
http://tinyurl.com/amm9s will teach you how to know who sent what.

Unless you have the logs from the admins who run remailers you have no right
to accuse anyone. After all, for all we know it can be YOU since I see no
on-topic aquarium-related messages from you anywhere.

--
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Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Note: There are two Koi-Lo's on the Aquaria groups.
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[[email protected]]

to the point.
Billy wrote:
> 1: The majority of USENET is unmoderated. There are no moderators.
> It's public. Self-moderation is about all there is. <g>
> 2: The rather 'infamous' troll, Carol, uses such a variety of
> remailers and strawmen that KF'ing her is an exercise in futility. As
> soon as she, and the other sad, pathetic individuals that waste their
> lives with this kind of horsesh*t realize that not enough people are
> seeing their tripe, they just change accounts.
>
> <shrug>
>
> All you can do is ignore it, and try not to get involved. Or you can
> have fun with it. Whatever your preference. :)
>
> b.
>
> --
> ¼á
> "George Orwell" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Why don't you killfile her instead of >
> > Your not the moderater and

[ReelMcKoi]

And here we see Carol in action... it was a mtter of time LOL!!!!!

Koi-Lo wrote:
> "Billy" > wrote in message
> ...
> > 2: The rather 'infamous' troll, Carol, .........
> ============
> You consider posts about aquariums and fish TROLL messages on aquarium
> groups? What am I supposed to post about here? Bird watching? Stamp
> collecting? Posting about fish and ponds on a pond group is trolling? It
> appears you don't understand the meaning of the word. Troll Information:
> http://tinyurl.com/9zbh or http://tinyurl.com/d8e4 .
>
> Are you aware of what ISPs or NSPs are? Evidently not. Reading Headers:
> http://tinyurl.com/amm9s will teach you how to know who sent what.
>
> Unless you have the logs from the admins who run remailers you have no right
> to accuse anyone. After all, for all we know it can be YOU since I see no
> on-topic aquarium-related messages from you anywhere.
>


yeah like she is on rec.pond... hop overt there and see the great job
she has done

[Billy]

Only your pointy head, reel.

<plonk>

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"ReelMcKoi" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> to the point
>

[[email protected]]

Koi-Lo wrote:

> But trolling itself is not against
> the law

That is not necessarily true any more. You might want to draw your
attorneys attention to the newly passed Violence Against Women and
Department of Justice Reauthorization Act, specifically section 113.
It's controversial and as yet untested (AFAIK) but to me seem to be
applicable to your situation.

[Koi-Lo]

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> Koi-Lo wrote:
>
>> But trolling itself is not against
>> the law
>
> That is not necessarily true any more. You might want to draw your
> attorneys attention to the newly passed Violence Against Women and
> Department of Justice Reauthorization Act, specifically section 113.
> It's controversial and as yet untested (AFAIK) but to me seem to be
> applicable to your situation.
================================
Thank you for this information. I need to know more before making any phone
calls. I'll see if I can locate more information on the net regarding it.

Again, thanks.

--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Note: There are two Koi-Lo's on the Aquaria groups.
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[Richard Sexton]

In article . com>,
> wrote:
>Koi-Lo wrote:
>
>> But trolling itself is not against
>> the law
>
>That is not necessarily true any more. You might want to draw your
>attorneys attention to the newly passed Violence Against Women and
>Department of Justice Reauthorization Act, specifically section 113.
>It's controversial and as yet untested (AFAIK) but to me seem to be
>applicable to your situation.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:h.r.03402:
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/09/1520222&from=rss
http://news.com.com/Create+an+e-annoyance%2C+go+to+jail/2010-1028_3-6022491.html

It only covers anonymous postings.

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[Altum]

Richard Sexton wrote:

> It only covers anonymous postings.
>
It could also be construed to mean only email since an email address is
the electronic equivalent of a telephone number. This is essentially a
broadcast medium.

[Richard Sexton]

In article . com>,
Altum > wrote:
>Richard Sexton wrote:
>
>> It only covers anonymous postings.
>>
>It could also be construed to mean only email since an email address is
>the electronic equivalent of a telephone number. This is essentially a
>broadcast medium.

Not really. It's intended more for blogs and they do mention usenet
posts. There are already laws against crank phone calls, this is to
extend that legislation to specifically include internet fora.

Glad it's not retroactive.

Sincerley,




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[Koi-Lo]

"Richard Sexton" > wrote in message
...
> In article . com>,
> Altum > wrote:
>>Richard Sexton wrote:
>>
>>> It only covers anonymous postings.
>>>
>>It could also be construed to mean only email since an email address is
>>the electronic equivalent of a telephone number. This is essentially a
>>broadcast medium.
>
> Not really. It's intended more for blogs and they do mention usenet
> posts. There are already laws against crank phone calls, this is to
> extend that legislation to specifically include internet fora.
>
> Glad it's not retroactive.
==========================
I've read several sites. Who would you contact to report the harassment,
either personal or in general for a group when it's happening on Usenet?
Especially when ISPs refuse to do anything about even the worst abuse? The
Police? In which state? What if you don't know what state the offender is
posting from? You may live in Maine and the offender harassing people on
Usenet lives in Iowa - who do you contact? The police in Iowa? I don't
see how this new law is going to stop harassment and abuse of the Internet
unless I missed something on the sites. Unless ISPs are willing to step
forward and do their part as they once did, I can't see this law being much
help.

The biggest question is - who would we call to report abuse and harassment
on these groups right now?
--

Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[Sky King]

In article . com>,
says...
> to the point
>
> Roy wrote:
> > What a joke yu are carol.Cops finding and arresting trolls on the
> > internet because they do not agree with your posts....your are a
> > pathetic indivdual even thinking that.......your assinine.......Since
> > the law supposedly knows all about this crap and its been going on
> > for years, actually, its mighty strange no actin has been taken in all
> > that time, yet yu feel the need to state they are acting on it....Get
> > a freaking clue carol your a dip **** of the first degree and don;t
> > have a clue one way or another about anything you say..........dream
> > on bimbo dream on........uh oh,,look out there is Jabbers behind that
> > kiddie pool with a molotove cocktail, oh and there goes cat daddy with
> > a M-79 grenade launcher behind your outhouse, and wow, there is snooze
> > coming out of your house with one of yur goldfish held hostage, and
> > lets see now, where might roy be..............oh he is in youor house
> > drinking your cold beer and posting all this crap on your computer, as
> > he needed a break since he just cut ylur bettas throat with a
> > machette...........your a drivaling wacko.
> > I bet those cops you supposedly keep contacting **** their pants every
> > time you call with laughter from the contents of hearing yur reports
> > and accusations........I think they are probbaly counting down and
> > will eventually call the guys in white coats and restraints, as they
> > have a room for you that is rubber lined....
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 10:58:36 -0600, "Koi-Lo" >
> > wrote:
> > >><>
> > >><>"Mean_Chlorine" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >><>>I don't know if ANY of the purported posters taking part in the
> > >><>> present troll-threads are real people, or if it's just one or a two
> > >><>> trolls under a variety of guises, and I don't care enough to check,
> > >><>
> > >><>There are four of them using different ISPs, that is for certain. Two are
> > >><>also suspected of using remailers.
> > >><>
> > >><>> but if there are any real people taking part, and especially if
> > >><>> there's any real people among those being accused/accusing of
> > >><>> real-world crimes, you might want to contact the authorities.
> > >><>
> > >><>The authorities in both Murfreesboro TN and Camden NJ have been contacted
> > >><>and have all the necessary information on the one who threatened my life.
> > >><>They do know who he is and where he lives in NJ. This is a serious matter
> > >><>than has gone beyond simple trolling. But trolling itself is not against
> > >><>the law and ISPs will not enforce their TOSs.

YOU really do need to calm down.
> > >><>
> > >><>> Seriously. I've seen a lot of trolls, and this troll is particularly
> > >><>> malicious and vile - I wouldn't consider it impossible that it's


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