Azoo Twin Calcium Reactor

[B]

Anyone know if these so called Calcium reactors are
work as advertised? Azoo Twin Calcium Reactor

Guy selling them on Ebay..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2368506780&category=20758

Described thusly :

Compact in design this highly efficient calcium reactor completely
eliminates the need to add two-part buffer/calcium chemicals to reef tanks.
It can be mounted in sump or externally. Calcium reactor includes carbonate
media, hanging brackets, and silicone connection tubing.Suitable for tanks
up to 450 gallons, reccomended flow rate is 13gph.

Installation Instruction:

1. Install the equipment according to illustration, you may hang this setup
along the edge of the tank vertically, or place it horizontally at the
bottom of the tank.
2. To introduce clean filtered water connect the air inlet of powerhead with
the water inlet of CO2 Reactor by silicone tube or connect the silicone tube
to the spare inlet of the U shaped tube.
3. To keep calcium value between 400-450mg/l you may regulate the water flow
by adjusting the valve.
4. The standard CO2 supply is that which maintain KH between 9~11 dKH.
5. For the tank under 200L (55gal) CO2 supply is not necessary, just keep
the water circulating.



It's never too late to be what you might have been.
~George Eliot

[Marc Levenson]

Man does that thing sound cheesy. Almost as bad as the Eco Aqualizer. I'd pass
on it myself.

Step 5 is the one that finally pushed me into the negatory category. I'll be
building my own in the near future and then I'll have some real perspective
finally.

Marc


B wrote:

> Anyone know if these so called Calcium reactors are
> work as advertised? Azoo Twin Calcium Reactor
>
> Guy selling them on Ebay..
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2368506780&category=20758
>
> Described thusly :
>
> Compact in design this highly efficient calcium reactor completely
> eliminates the need to add two-part buffer/calcium chemicals to reef tanks.
> It can be mounted in sump or externally. Calcium reactor includes carbonate
> media, hanging brackets, and silicone connection tubing.Suitable for tanks
> up to 450 gallons, reccomended flow rate is 13gph.
>
> Installation Instruction:
>
> 1. Install the equipment according to illustration, you may hang this setup
> along the edge of the tank vertically, or place it horizontally at the
> bottom of the tank.
> 2. To introduce clean filtered water connect the air inlet of powerhead with
> the water inlet of CO2 Reactor by silicone tube or connect the silicone tube
> to the spare inlet of the U shaped tube.
> 3. To keep calcium value between 400-450mg/l you may regulate the water flow
> by adjusting the valve.
> 4. The standard CO2 supply is that which maintain KH between 9~11 dKH.
> 5. For the tank under 200L (55gal) CO2 supply is not necessary, just keep
> the water circulating.
>
> It's never too late to be what you might have been.
> ~George Eliot

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[David Young]

Marc,
I respectfully disagree with your comment about Step 5. I can not comment about this specific CR. I bought a good quality CR. Could not seem to get things stabilized with the CO2 on. When I ran out of CO2 I did not get it refilled due to timing of the processing plant but l Ieft the CR circulating. That was 9 months ago and my Calcium, Alk and PH has never been more stable and right where it needs to be. I am running about 150 gal total volume and leave the CR running at full flow into the sump.I do have a Crushed Coral base in the display tank and about 200 # LR total so available calcium shuld not have been a problem before. I don't know why but it works for me.
Dave Young
"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message ...
Man does that thing sound cheesy. Almost as bad as the Eco Aqualizer. I'd pass on it myself.

Step 5 is the one that finally pushed me into the negatory category. I'll be building my own in the near future and then I'll have some real perspective finally.

Marc

B wrote:

Anyone know if these so called Calcium reactors are
work as advertised? Azoo Twin Calcium Reactor
Guy selling them on Ebay..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2368506780&category=20758

Described thusly :

Compact in design this highly efficient calcium reactor completely
eliminates the need to add two-part buffer/calcium chemicals to reef tanks.
It can be mounted in sump or externally. Calcium reactor includes carbonate
media, hanging brackets, and silicone connection tubing.Suitable for tanks
up to 450 gallons, reccomended flow rate is 13gph.

Installation Instruction:

1. Install the equipment according to illustration, you may hang this setup
along the edge of the tank vertically, or place it horizontally at the
bottom of the tank.
2. To introduce clean filtered water connect the air inlet of powerhead with
the water inlet of CO2 Reactor by silicone tube or connect the silicone tube
to the spare inlet of the U shaped tube.
3. To keep calcium value between 400-450mg/l you may regulate the water flow
by adjusting the valve.
4. The standard CO2 supply is that which maintain KH between 9~11 dKH.
5. For the tank under 200L (55gal) CO2 supply is not necessary, just keep
the water circulating.

It's never too late to be what you might have been.
~George Eliot

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[Jimmy Chen]

<< I respectfully disagree with your comment about Step 5.
When I ran out of CO2 I did not get it refilled due to timing of the
processing plant but l Ieft the CR circulating. That was 9 months ago and my
Calcium, Alk and PH has never been more stable and right where it needs to
be. >>

Give the credit to where credit is dued, and that would be your tank finally
being stabled.

Just think about the claim. If you can run a CA reactor w/o low pH water to
dissolve the media, then why would you need the CA reactor in the first
place? Such claim implies your tank water will dissolve *any* and *all*
media within the tank.

jc

[Boomer]

I would have a tendency David to agree with you on this to a point. Actual Ca, Alk, pH
demands that are low for some systems. Example; Smaller tanks with, we will say with a
larger CR. may get away with no CO2. as one is forcefully driving the ambient air CO2 into
solution. We all have heard of high room air CO2 problems that lower tank pH, so now
imagine driving that high CO2 air into a reactor on a small tank. There may be very well
enough CO2 to cause dissolution of the CaCO3 and enough to maintain Ca, Alk and pH levels
in some systems.


". I am running about 150 gal total volume and leave the CR running at full flow into the
sump.I do have a Crushed Coral base in the display tank and about 200 # LR total so
available calcium shuld not have been a problem before. I don't know why but it works for
me"

This is a little confusing Dave.

The CA has media in it correct ?

CC and LR in the display tank have much of nothing to with keeping Ca, Alk, and pH up to
snuff, except maybe in a new tank for a short period.You can see this with so called
"Liquid Calcium" (CaCO3) supplements, which don't do much of anything when there is ample
demand.

Just to check ,have you checked your kits to assure they are accurate ?

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"David Young" > wrote in message
news:z9AHb.672017$HS4.4768734@attbi_s01...
Marc,
I respectfully disagree with your comment about Step 5. I can not comment about this
specific CR. I bought a good quality CR. Could not seem to get things stabilized with the
CO2 on. When I ran out of CO2 I did not get it refilled due to timing of the processing
plant but l Ieft the CR circulating. That was 9 months ago and my Calcium, Alk and PH has
never been more stable and right where it needs to be. I am running about 150 gal total
volume and leave the CR running at full flow into the sump.I do have a Crushed Coral base
in the display tank and about 200 # LR total so available calcium shuld not have been a
problem before. I don't know why but it works for me.
Dave Young
"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
Man does that thing sound cheesy. Almost as bad as the Eco Aqualizer. I'd pass on it
myself.

Step 5 is the one that finally pushed me into the negatory category. I'll be building
my own in the near future and then I'll have some real perspective finally.

Marc

B wrote:

Anyone know if these so called Calcium reactors are
work as advertised? Azoo Twin Calcium Reactor
Guy selling them on Ebay..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2368506780&category=20758

Described thusly :

Compact in design this highly efficient calcium reactor completely
eliminates the need to add two-part buffer/calcium chemicals to reef tanks.
It can be mounted in sump or externally. Calcium reactor includes carbonate
media, hanging brackets, and silicone connection tubing.Suitable for tanks
up to 450 gallons, reccomended flow rate is 13gph.

Installation Instruction:

1. Install the equipment according to illustration, you may hang this setup
along the edge of the tank vertically, or place it horizontally at the
bottom of the tank.
2. To introduce clean filtered water connect the air inlet of powerhead with
the water inlet of CO2 Reactor by silicone tube or connect the silicone tube
to the spare inlet of the U shaped tube.
3. To keep calcium value between 400-450mg/l you may regulate the water flow
by adjusting the valve.
4. The standard CO2 supply is that which maintain KH between 9~11 dKH.
5. For the tank under 200L (55gal) CO2 supply is not necessary, just keep
the water circulating.

It's never too late to be what you might have been.
~George Eliot

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[Richard Reynolds]

> Anyone know if these so called Calcium reactors are
> work as advertised? Azoo Twin Calcium Reactor

id pass, if your tank is smaller the aquamedic is $10 more and much better sounding.

--
Richard Reynolds

[David Young]

I'll see if I can clarify some of the questions. My reef had been going about 9 months, Calc would never go over 325 and Ph was always high (8.7 - 8.9). I added the CR and my Calc went up to 400 and my Ph came down to 8.3 but the Alk would go crazy (hi then low). I battled this for about 3 months until I ran out of CO2. Within a few weeks things stabilized and have remained there for 9 months since. The CR still has media in it and it's volume decreases about 1/2" per month. I have had water samples checked at the LFS and they agree with my tests. If JC is right, that the tank has just matured, I should be able to just shut the CR down and not have any change?
DY
"Boomer" > wrote in message ...
I would have a tendency David to agree with you on this to a point. Actual Ca, Alk, pH demands that are low for some systems. Example; Smaller tanks with, we will say with a larger CR. may get away with no CO2. as one is forcefully driving the ambient air CO2 into solution. We all have heard of high room air CO2 problems that lower tank pH, so now imagine driving that high CO2 air into a reactor on a small tank. There may be very well enough CO2 to cause dissolution of the CaCO3 and enough to maintain Ca, Alk and pH levels in some systems.


". I am running about 150 gal total volume and leave the CR running at full flow into the sump.I do have a Crushed Coral base in the display tank and about 200 # LR total so available calcium shuld not have been a problem before. I don't know why but it works for me"

This is a little confusing Dave.

The CA has media in it correct ?

CC and LR in the display tank have much of nothing to with keeping Ca, Alk, and pH up to snuff, except maybe in a new tank for a short period.You can see this with so called "Liquid Calcium" (CaCO3) supplements, which don't do much of anything when there is ample demand.

Just to check ,have you checked your kits to assure they are accurate ?

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"David Young" > wrote in message news:z9AHb.672017$HS4.4768734@attbi_s01...
Marc,
I respectfully disagree with your comment about Step 5. I can not comment about this specific CR. I bought a good quality CR. Could not seem to get things stabilized with the CO2 on. When I ran out of CO2 I did not get it refilled due to timing of the processing plant but l Ieft the CR circulating. That was 9 months ago and my Calcium, Alk and PH has never been more stable and right where it needs to be. I am running about 150 gal total volume and leave the CR running at full flow into the sump.I do have a Crushed Coral base in the display tank and about 200 # LR total so available calcium shuld not have been a problem before. I don't know why but it works for me.
Dave Young
"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message ...
Man does that thing sound cheesy. Almost as bad as the Eco Aqualizer. I'd pass on it myself.

Step 5 is the one that finally pushed me into the negatory category. I'll be building my own in the near future and then I'll have some real perspective finally.

Marc

B wrote:

Anyone know if these so called Calcium reactors are
work as advertised? Azoo Twin Calcium Reactor
Guy selling them on Ebay..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2368506780&category=20758

Described thusly :

Compact in design this highly efficient calcium reactor completely
eliminates the need to add two-part buffer/calcium chemicals to reef tanks.
It can be mounted in sump or externally. Calcium reactor includes carbonate
media, hanging brackets, and silicone connection tubing.Suitable for tanks
up to 450 gallons, reccomended flow rate is 13gph.

Installation Instruction:

1. Install the equipment according to illustration, you may hang this setup
along the edge of the tank vertically, or place it horizontally at the
bottom of the tank.
2. To introduce clean filtered water connect the air inlet of powerhead with
the water inlet of CO2 Reactor by silicone tube or connect the silicone tube
to the spare inlet of the U shaped tube.
3. To keep calcium value between 400-450mg/l you may regulate the water flow
by adjusting the valve.
4. The standard CO2 supply is that which maintain KH between 9~11 dKH.
5. For the tank under 200L (55gal) CO2 supply is not necessary, just keep
the water circulating.

It's never too late to be what you might have been.
~George Eliot

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