Sumps????Protein Skimmers??????????

[Kyle]

Im new to the Marine Aquarium world.. I have a 55gal cycling right now
with 45lb of live rock. I need to know when I need a protein skimmer
if I even need one. Also wondering about if I could get a design on a
sump, id love to house all my equipmnt there and keep my display tank
nice. Please give me a site with a SUMP DESIGN as well as the answer
to my questions. Thanks in advance!

[Chris Taylor]

If it gets messy with the live rock you may need a skimmer sooner than you
think as the Ammonia spike could kill off life-forms on the rock and warrant
skimming. If not, once you have cycled the tank and start to introduce fish
you might want to consider getting a skimmer then. It is possible to operate
entirely without a protein skimmer. The skimmer just makes it easier to
maintain the optimum tank water conditions.


"Kyle" > wrote in message
om...
> Im new to the Marine Aquarium world.. I have a 55gal cycling right now
> with 45lb of live rock. I need to know when I need a protein skimmer
> if I even need one. Also wondering about if I could get a design on a
> sump, id love to house all my equipmnt there and keep my display tank
> nice. Please give me a site with a SUMP DESIGN as well as the answer
> to my questions. Thanks in advance!

[Richard Reynolds]

get the skimmer now, most take a while before they are skimming good, plus you have to get
used to adjusting it. dont wait until you need one


at least 1 here:
http://www.melevsreef.com/make_a_sump.html


get to know groups.google.com its your friend


--
Richard Reynolds

[Marc Levenson]

Go to my site for a lot more sump information:
http://www.melevsreef.com

Yes, you want a skimmer now, a good one made by Aqua C, Euroreef or ASM (Euroreef knock-off).
For a 55g, I'd use the Aqua C Remora Pro (Hang On Back - HOB) or an Urchin Pro (in sump).

Marc


Richard Reynolds wrote:

> get the skimmer now, most take a while before they are skimming good, plus you have to get
> used to adjusting it. dont wait until you need one
>
> at least 1 here:
> http://www.melevsreef.com/make_a_sump.html
>
> get to know groups.google.com its your friend
>
> --
> Richard Reynolds
>

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[Kyle]

Marc Levenson > wrote in message >...
> Go to my site for a lot more sump information:
> http://www.melevsreef.com
>
> Yes, you want a skimmer now, a good one made by Aqua C, Euroreef or ASM (Euroreef knock-off).
> For a 55g, I'd use the Aqua C Remora Pro (Hang On Back - HOB) or an Urchin Pro (in sump).
>
> Marc
>
>
> Richard Reynolds wrote:
>
> > get the skimmer now, most take a while before they are skimming good, plus you have to get
> > used to adjusting it. dont wait until you need one
> >
> > at least 1 here:
> > http://www.melevsreef.com/make_a_sump.html
> >
> > get to know groups.google.com its your friend
> >
> > --
> > Richard Reynolds
> >


Ok thanks a LOT!!

[Kyle]

(Kyle) wrote in message >...
> Marc Levenson > wrote in message >...
> > Go to my site for a lot more sump information:
> > http://www.melevsreef.com
> >
> > Yes, you want a skimmer now, a good one made by Aqua C, Euroreef or ASM (Euroreef knock-off).
> > For a 55g, I'd use the Aqua C Remora Pro (Hang On Back - HOB) or an Urchin Pro (in sump).
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > Richard Reynolds wrote:
> >
> > > get the skimmer now, most take a while before they are skimming good, plus you have to get
> > > used to adjusting it. dont wait until you need one
> > >
> > > at least 1 here:
> > > http://www.melevsreef.com/make_a_sump.html
> > >
> > > get to know groups.google.com its your friend
> > >
> > > --
> > > Richard Reynolds
> > >
>
>
> Ok thanks a LOT!!


Ok... WOW arcrylic is expensive. Can I ask a local company that shapes
acrylic to make me one? The local aqarium shop also said I need a
Berlin skimmer thingy for my sump. Is this true, is there a
difference? Thanks in advance!

[Richard Reynolds]

> Ok... WOW arcrylic is expensive. Can I ask a local company that shapes
> acrylic to make me one? The local aqarium shop also said I need a
> Berlin skimmer thingy for my sump. Is this true, is there a
> difference? Thanks in advance!

skip the berlin skimmer thingy :) they are not so great. as to you needing a protein
skimmer there are probibly 4 threads at anyone time on them. most any company that works
with acrylic will make one for you. but expect to pay $$$$ also being for a sump you can
often find cutoffs or scrap acrylic sold by the pound for much less $$$ consider it if you
are only building 1 sump for yourself.

--
Richard Reynolds

[Marc Levenson]

Re: skimmers.... Euroreef or Aqua C is what I always recommend.

Sumps... you can build your own, and only be out the cost of materials, like Richard stated. You can also
use a glass aquarium, siliconing in glass dividers (from the local glass shop), to save some money.

Marc


Kyle wrote:

> (Kyle) wrote in message >...
> > Marc Levenson > wrote in message >...
> > > Go to my site for a lot more sump information:
> > > http://www.melevsreef.com
> > >
> > > Yes, you want a skimmer now, a good one made by Aqua C, Euroreef or ASM (Euroreef knock-off).
> > > For a 55g, I'd use the Aqua C Remora Pro (Hang On Back - HOB) or an Urchin Pro (in sump).
> > >
> > > Marc
> > >
> > >
> > > Richard Reynolds wrote:
> > >
> > > > get the skimmer now, most take a while before they are skimming good, plus you have to get
> > > > used to adjusting it. dont wait until you need one
> > > >
> > > > at least 1 here:
> > > > http://www.melevsreef.com/make_a_sump.html
> > > >
> > > > get to know groups.google.com its your friend
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Richard Reynolds
> > > >
> >
> >
> > Ok thanks a LOT!!
>
> Ok... WOW arcrylic is expensive. Can I ask a local company that shapes
> acrylic to make me one? The local aqarium shop also said I need a
> Berlin skimmer thingy for my sump. Is this true, is there a
> difference? Thanks in advance!

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[Kyle]

Marc Levenson > wrote in message >...
> Re: skimmers.... Euroreef or Aqua C is what I always recommend.
>
> Sumps... you can build your own, and only be out the cost of materials, like Richard stated. You can also
> use a glass aquarium, siliconing in glass dividers (from the local glass shop), to save some money.
>
> Marc
>
>
> Kyle wrote:
>
> > (Kyle) wrote in message >...
> > > Marc Levenson > wrote in message >...
> > > > Go to my site for a lot more sump information:
> > > > http://www.melevsreef.com
> > > >
> > > > Yes, you want a skimmer now, a good one made by Aqua C, Euroreef or ASM (Euroreef knock-off).
> > > > For a 55g, I'd use the Aqua C Remora Pro (Hang On Back - HOB) or an Urchin Pro (in sump).
> > > >
> > > > Marc
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Richard Reynolds wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > get the skimmer now, most take a while before they are skimming good, plus you have to get
> > > > > used to adjusting it. dont wait until you need one
> > > > >
> > > > > at least 1 here:
> > > > > http://www.melevsreef.com/make_a_sump.html
> > > > >
> > > > > get to know groups.google.com its your friend
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Richard Reynolds
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok thanks a LOT!!
> >
> > Ok... WOW arcrylic is expensive. Can I ask a local company that shapes
> > acrylic to make me one? The local aqarium shop also said I need a
> > Berlin skimmer thingy for my sump. Is this true, is there a
> > difference? Thanks in advance!

Im going to get an over the back skimmer. Ive decided the AquaC Remora
Pro. Can I later put it in a sump? Im going to go with no sump for a
while. Ill probably add it later in the game. Is the AquaC good? Can I
add a sump later? THanks again!

[Marc Levenson]

Yes, you can put it in the sump later. The Remora Pro has a couple of teflon (or nylon) screws in the base,
which are used to help keep it level when resting against the back of the tank. The Urchin Pro just has a flat
base.

You may need to put something around the Remora to keep it steady in the sump, but that is relatively easy. You
could use a large Zip tie, or a coated wire hanger to act as a tether.

Or if you have a router with a laminate trimming bit (with a bearing), you can route off the two screw-brackets
and it will make the skimmer smooth on the bottom.

Marc


Kyle wrote:

> Im going to get an over the back skimmer. Ive decided the AquaC Remora
> Pro. Can I later put it in a sump? Im going to go with no sump for a
> while. Ill probably add it later in the game. Is the AquaC good? Can I
> add a sump later? THanks again!

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