EM tablets

[plaguebeast]

I have recent outbreaks of red slime and GHA while my levels are all good,
ammonia = 0, Nitrites = 0, Nitrates <10. I would like to treat my 37G with
EM tablets to take care of the red slime and get a fish to eat the GHA. My
tank is FOWLR, lots of mushrooms, 3 clowns, 2 turbo snails, a bunch of
red/blue legged hermit crabs, sally lightfoot crabs, 2 sand sifting stars,
some smaller snails, and a 4-5" DSB.

I tried Slime Away on my 29G, (Zooanthids on one rock, LR, no DSB, all
levels the same as the above tank, 1 SL crab, 2 smaller snails and a couple
of sand sifting stars) it didn't do anything, the slime seemed to abate a
little but came right back. Made my protein skimmer go crazy.


Question:

Won't the EM tablets kill off my somewhat mature DSB ?

What would be a good fish to eat the GHA that won't keep the clowns from
spawning ?

Will anything eat the red slime ?

Thanks in Advance,
pb

[Marc Levenson]

You may have phosphate levels that are higher than .03ppm

What does EM stand for?

ChemiClean removed my slime algae with 48 hours.

You'll have to manually remove as much Green Hair Aglae as possible, then put
hungry snails on what is left for them and your hermits to consume.

http://www.melevsreef.com/gha.html

Marc


plaguebeast wrote:

> I have recent outbreaks of red slime and GHA while my levels are all good,
> ammonia = 0, Nitrites = 0, Nitrates <10. I would like to treat my 37G with
> EM tablets to take care of the red slime and get a fish to eat the GHA. My
> tank is FOWLR, lots of mushrooms, 3 clowns, 2 turbo snails, a bunch of
> red/blue legged hermit crabs, sally lightfoot crabs, 2 sand sifting stars,
> some smaller snails, and a 4-5" DSB.
>
> I tried Slime Away on my 29G, (Zooanthids on one rock, LR, no DSB, all
> levels the same as the above tank, 1 SL crab, 2 smaller snails and a couple
> of sand sifting stars) it didn't do anything, the slime seemed to abate a
> little but came right back. Made my protein skimmer go crazy.
>
> Question:
>
> Won't the EM tablets kill off my somewhat mature DSB ?
>
> What would be a good fish to eat the GHA that won't keep the clowns from
> spawning ?
>
> Will anything eat the red slime ?
>
> Thanks in Advance,
> pb

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[plaguebeast]

EM is erythromycin, an antibiotic.

My snails are not eating the GHA they just hang out on the glass. I don't
think they are very hungry. My hermits seem to be "in the same boat."

I would love to get a new fish...isn't a lawnmower blenny good for GHA
control ? I figure once he has eaten all the GHA I would start clipping
nori to a magnetic clip.

Bad idea ?

I will check my phosphates also but a new fish would be cool too.

pb


ps. did the ChemiClean kick your PS into overdrive ? I had foam (white,
just water) pouring out so much I just ran the overflow for the PS back into
my sump until the action stopped.


"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> You may have phosphate levels that are higher than .03ppm
>
> What does EM stand for?
>
> ChemiClean removed my slime algae with 48 hours.
>
> You'll have to manually remove as much Green Hair Aglae as possible, then
put
> hungry snails on what is left for them and your hermits to consume.
>
> http://www.melevsreef.com/gha.html
>
> Marc
>
>
> plaguebeast wrote:
>
> > I have recent outbreaks of red slime and GHA while my levels are all
good,
> > ammonia = 0, Nitrites = 0, Nitrates <10. I would like to treat my 37G
with
> > EM tablets to take care of the red slime and get a fish to eat the GHA.
My
> > tank is FOWLR, lots of mushrooms, 3 clowns, 2 turbo snails, a bunch of
> > red/blue legged hermit crabs, sally lightfoot crabs, 2 sand sifting
stars,
> > some smaller snails, and a 4-5" DSB.
> >
> > I tried Slime Away on my 29G, (Zooanthids on one rock, LR, no DSB, all
> > levels the same as the above tank, 1 SL crab, 2 smaller snails and a
couple
> > of sand sifting stars) it didn't do anything, the slime seemed to abate
a
> > little but came right back. Made my protein skimmer go crazy.
> >
> > Question:
> >
> > Won't the EM tablets kill off my somewhat mature DSB ?
> >
> > What would be a good fish to eat the GHA that won't keep the clowns from
> > spawning ?
> >
> > Will anything eat the red slime ?
> >
> > Thanks in Advance,
> > pb
>
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>
>

[Marc Levenson]

Oh, I've heard of that. I just didn't know the initials.

When I say hungry snails, what I mean is that you need to buy some new ones from
the LFS. Those typically are voracious compared to the ones already in your
tank. Put them on your algae. Whenever they are off of it, along with your
own, put them back on the algae so they'll get rid of the stuff.

I bought a lawnmower blenny when I did have GHA, but within 7 days it
disappeared. I never saw it eat anything, algae or prepared foods. So I can't
say based on my own limiited experience with this fish.

When you run ChemiClean, you need to leave your skimmer off for 48 hours. When
you restart it after that period, you are supposed to do a 20% waterchange as
well, and even run carbon if necessary.

In my case, I just turned the skimmer back on, which filled up the large cup on
my Ev-200 in about 2 hours flat. I drained it and left town for a week. All
was well. :)

Marc


plaguebeast wrote:

> EM is erythromycin, an antibiotic.
>
> My snails are not eating the GHA they just hang out on the glass. I don't
> think they are very hungry. My hermits seem to be "in the same boat."
>
> I would love to get a new fish...isn't a lawnmower blenny good for GHA
> control ? I figure once he has eaten all the GHA I would start clipping
> nori to a magnetic clip.
>
> Bad idea ?
>
> I will check my phosphates also but a new fish would be cool too.
>
> pb
>
> ps. did the ChemiClean kick your PS into overdrive ? I had foam (white,
> just water) pouring out so much I just ran the overflow for the PS back into
> my sump until the action stopped.
>
> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > You may have phosphate levels that are higher than .03ppm
> >
> > What does EM stand for?
> >
> > ChemiClean removed my slime algae with 48 hours.
> >
> > You'll have to manually remove as much Green Hair Aglae as possible, then
> put
> > hungry snails on what is left for them and your hermits to consume.
> >
> > http://www.melevsreef.com/gha.html
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > plaguebeast wrote:
> >
> > > I have recent outbreaks of red slime and GHA while my levels are all
> good,
> > > ammonia = 0, Nitrites = 0, Nitrates <10. I would like to treat my 37G
> with
> > > EM tablets to take care of the red slime and get a fish to eat the GHA.
> My
> > > tank is FOWLR, lots of mushrooms, 3 clowns, 2 turbo snails, a bunch of
> > > red/blue legged hermit crabs, sally lightfoot crabs, 2 sand sifting
> stars,
> > > some smaller snails, and a 4-5" DSB.
> > >
> > > I tried Slime Away on my 29G, (Zooanthids on one rock, LR, no DSB, all
> > > levels the same as the above tank, 1 SL crab, 2 smaller snails and a
> couple
> > > of sand sifting stars) it didn't do anything, the slime seemed to abate
> a
> > > little but came right back. Made my protein skimmer go crazy.
> > >
> > > Question:
> > >
> > > Won't the EM tablets kill off my somewhat mature DSB ?
> > >
> > > What would be a good fish to eat the GHA that won't keep the clowns from
> > > spawning ?
> > >
> > > Will anything eat the red slime ?
> > >
> > > Thanks in Advance,
> > > pb
> >
> > --
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> > Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> > Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
> >
> >

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[plaguebeast]

Thanks for the info, ChemiClean seems to have acted the same as the stuff I
used. Strange, though, my smaller tank that had the first red slime
outbreak was treated with the Slime Away stuff and the red slime seemed to
be receeding, then it came back. I think I am going to have to figure out
what else is going wrong. Red slime and GHA. I gotta get more reagents
(read fresher) and test my PO3.
"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> Oh, I've heard of that. I just didn't know the initials.
>
> When I say hungry snails, what I mean is that you need to buy some new
ones from
> the LFS. Those typically are voracious compared to the ones already in
your
> tank. Put them on your algae. Whenever they are off of it, along with
your
> own, put them back on the algae so they'll get rid of the stuff.
>
> I bought a lawnmower blenny when I did have GHA, but within 7 days it
> disappeared. I never saw it eat anything, algae or prepared foods. So I
can't
> say based on my own limiited experience with this fish.
>
> When you run ChemiClean, you need to leave your skimmer off for 48 hours.
When
> you restart it after that period, you are supposed to do a 20% waterchange
as
> well, and even run carbon if necessary.
>
> In my case, I just turned the skimmer back on, which filled up the large
cup on
> my Ev-200 in about 2 hours flat. I drained it and left town for a week.
All
> was well. :)
>
> Marc
>
>
> plaguebeast wrote:
>
> > EM is erythromycin, an antibiotic.
> >
> > My snails are not eating the GHA they just hang out on the glass. I
don't
> > think they are very hungry. My hermits seem to be "in the same boat."
> >
> > I would love to get a new fish...isn't a lawnmower blenny good for GHA
> > control ? I figure once he has eaten all the GHA I would start clipping
> > nori to a magnetic clip.
> >
> > Bad idea ?
> >
> > I will check my phosphates also but a new fish would be cool too.
> >
> > pb
> >
> > ps. did the ChemiClean kick your PS into overdrive ? I had foam (white,
> > just water) pouring out so much I just ran the overflow for the PS back
into
> > my sump until the action stopped.
> >
> > "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > You may have phosphate levels that are higher than .03ppm
> > >
> > > What does EM stand for?
> > >
> > > ChemiClean removed my slime algae with 48 hours.
> > >
> > > You'll have to manually remove as much Green Hair Aglae as possible,
then
> > put
> > > hungry snails on what is left for them and your hermits to consume.
> > >
> > > http://www.melevsreef.com/gha.html
> > >
> > > Marc
> > >
> > >
> > > plaguebeast wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have recent outbreaks of red slime and GHA while my levels are all
> > good,
> > > > ammonia = 0, Nitrites = 0, Nitrates <10. I would like to treat my
37G
> > with
> > > > EM tablets to take care of the red slime and get a fish to eat the
GHA.
> > My
> > > > tank is FOWLR, lots of mushrooms, 3 clowns, 2 turbo snails, a bunch
of
> > > > red/blue legged hermit crabs, sally lightfoot crabs, 2 sand sifting
> > stars,
> > > > some smaller snails, and a 4-5" DSB.
> > > >
> > > > I tried Slime Away on my 29G, (Zooanthids on one rock, LR, no DSB,
all
> > > > levels the same as the above tank, 1 SL crab, 2 smaller snails and a
> > couple
> > > > of sand sifting stars) it didn't do anything, the slime seemed to
abate
> > a
> > > > little but came right back. Made my protein skimmer go crazy.
> > > >
> > > > Question:
> > > >
> > > > Won't the EM tablets kill off my somewhat mature DSB ?
> > > >
> > > > What would be a good fish to eat the GHA that won't keep the clowns
from
> > > > spawning ?
> > > >
> > > > Will anything eat the red slime ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in Advance,
> > > > pb
> > >
> > > --
> > > Personal Page:
http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> > > Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> > > Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
> > >
> > >
>
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>
>

[Marc Levenson]

What skimmer are you using, on what size tank, and how often are you cleaning
the collection cup and riser tube?

Marc


plaguebeast wrote:

> Thanks for the info, ChemiClean seems to have acted the same as the stuff I
> used. Strange, though, my smaller tank that had the first red slime
> outbreak was treated with the Slime Away stuff and the red slime seemed to
> be receeding, then it came back. I think I am going to have to figure out
> what else is going wrong. Red slime and GHA. I gotta get more reagents
> (read fresher) and test my PO3.
>
>
> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Oh, I've heard of that. I just didn't know the initials.
> >
> > When I say hungry snails, what I mean is that you need to buy some new
> ones from
> > the LFS. Those typically are voracious compared to the ones already in
> your
> > tank. Put them on your algae. Whenever they are off of it, along with
> your
> > own, put them back on the algae so they'll get rid of the stuff.
> >
> > I bought a lawnmower blenny when I did have GHA, but within 7 days it
> > disappeared. I never saw it eat anything, algae or prepared foods. So I
> can't
> > say based on my own limiited experience with this fish.
> >
> > When you run ChemiClean, you need to leave your skimmer off for 48 hours.
> When
> > you restart it after that period, you are supposed to do a 20% waterchange
> as
> > well, and even run carbon if necessary.
> >
> > In my case, I just turned the skimmer back on, which filled up the large
> cup on
> > my Ev-200 in about 2 hours flat. I drained it and left town for a week.
> All
> > was well. :)
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > plaguebeast wrote:
> >
> > > EM is erythromycin, an antibiotic.
> > >
> > > My snails are not eating the GHA they just hang out on the glass. I
> don't
> > > think they are very hungry. My hermits seem to be "in the same boat."
> > >
> > > I would love to get a new fish...isn't a lawnmower blenny good for GHA
> > > control ? I figure once he has eaten all the GHA I would start clipping
> > > nori to a magnetic clip.
> > >
> > > Bad idea ?
> > >
> > > I will check my phosphates also but a new fish would be cool too.
> > >
> > > pb
> > >
> > > ps. did the ChemiClean kick your PS into overdrive ? I had foam (white,
> > > just water) pouring out so much I just ran the overflow for the PS back
> into
> > > my sump until the action stopped.
> > >
> > > "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > You may have phosphate levels that are higher than .03ppm
> > > >
> > > > What does EM stand for?
> > > >
> > > > ChemiClean removed my slime algae with 48 hours.
> > > >
> > > > You'll have to manually remove as much Green Hair Aglae as possible,
> then
> > > put
> > > > hungry snails on what is left for them and your hermits to consume.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.melevsreef.com/gha.html
> > > >
> > > > Marc
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > plaguebeast wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have recent outbreaks of red slime and GHA while my levels are all
> > > good,
> > > > > ammonia = 0, Nitrites = 0, Nitrates <10. I would like to treat my
> 37G
> > > with
> > > > > EM tablets to take care of the red slime and get a fish to eat the
> GHA.
> > > My
> > > > > tank is FOWLR, lots of mushrooms, 3 clowns, 2 turbo snails, a bunch
> of
> > > > > red/blue legged hermit crabs, sally lightfoot crabs, 2 sand sifting
> > > stars,
> > > > > some smaller snails, and a 4-5" DSB.
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried Slime Away on my 29G, (Zooanthids on one rock, LR, no DSB,
> all
> > > > > levels the same as the above tank, 1 SL crab, 2 smaller snails and a
> > > couple
> > > > > of sand sifting stars) it didn't do anything, the slime seemed to
> abate
> > > a
> > > > > little but came right back. Made my protein skimmer go crazy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Question:
> > > > >
> > > > > Won't the EM tablets kill off my somewhat mature DSB ?
> > > > >
> > > > > What would be a good fish to eat the GHA that won't keep the clowns
> from
> > > > > spawning ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Will anything eat the red slime ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in Advance,
> > > > > pb
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Personal Page:
> http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> > > > Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> > > > Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> > Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> > Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
> >
> >

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