FNG question. Sorta.

[Mike S.]

I have a friend that is looking to buy a sal****er aquarium (fish only). He
asked me questions 'cause I have a 29g fresh tank setup in my LR. Weelll,
to make a long story short, I've got the reef bug again. The last time I
had it I was in college. Please don't ask how long ago!

When did this refugium thing start happening?

WTF do they do exactly that a wet/dry/trickle filter doesn't? (I've looked
at the FAQ so don't flame me!)

I had some clients that had a 55g tank "reef-ready" with a plenum on the
bottom of the tank. Last I looked at reef setups, you weren't supposed to
have much gravel/sand on the bottom (1/4" maybe). How does a plenum differ
in function from the DSB I keep reading about?

Next stupid question: I have 4-5 aquariums at my parent's place in VA. I
live in San Diego now. Anyone have good luck shipping tanks cross country
without breaking them? Since I've got "extra" tanks/stands/filters/etc.
already, I don't fancy buying new ones... Mmmmmm....55gal reeeefffff.....

Thanks,

Mike

[Richard Reynolds]

> I have a friend that is looking to buy a sal****er aquarium (fish only). He
> asked me questions 'cause I have a 29g fresh tank setup in my LR. Weelll,
> to make a long story short, I've got the reef bug again. The last time I
> had it I was in college. Please don't ask how long ago!

so how long ago :D

you know you had that one comming right :)

> When did this refugium thing start happening?
> WTF do they do exactly that a wet/dry/trickle filter doesn't? (I've looked
> at the FAQ so don't flame me!)

refugium's do a few things first they give the pods and such a safe place to breed and be
free, at least until they are delivered to your tank in which case they are lunch :) the
addition of macroalgae also allows your refugium to remove nitrates. and the extra water
volume helps create a more stable tank.

> I had some clients that had a 55g tank "reef-ready" with a plenum on the
> bottom of the tank. Last I looked at reef setups, you weren't supposed to
> have much gravel/sand on the bottom (1/4" maybe). How does a plenum differ
> in function from the DSB I keep reading about?

plenum's and dsb's also both help to remove nitrates from the tank, they are 2 different
ways of doing the same thing. the alternative no or a thin substraite does not remove
nitrate.

> Next stupid question: I have 4-5 aquariums at my parent's place in VA. I
> live in San Diego now. Anyone have good luck shipping tanks cross country
> without breaking them? Since I've got "extra" tanks/stands/filters/etc.
> already, I don't fancy buying new ones... Mmmmmm....55gal reeeefffff.....

geesh I feel good when I can ship my tanks across my living room :)

ok so not that bad, but it sure feels like it sometimes. it should be doable you might
need to visit the folks to help get things packed correctly depending on how/who ships
them you may or may not need to box them yourself.

> Thanks,
>
> Mike



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Richard Reynolds

[Mike S.]

"Richard Reynolds" > wrote in message
news:oQOKb.26862$WQ3.23377@lakeread05...
> > I have a friend that is looking to buy a sal****er aquarium (fish only).
He
> > asked me questions 'cause I have a 29g fresh tank setup in my LR.
Weelll,
> > to make a long story short, I've got the reef bug again. The last time
I
> > had it I was in college. Please don't ask how long ago!
>
> so how long ago :D
>
> you know you had that one comming right :)

I'll answer, even though I don't wanna. I managed to graduate from VA Tech
in 93. Right after the big boom in reefs. Had a friend with more money
than sense who had a bitchin setup even back then.
>
> > When did this refugium thing start happening?
> > WTF do they do exactly that a wet/dry/trickle filter doesn't? (I've
looked
> > at the FAQ so don't flame me!)
>
> refugium's do a few things first they give the pods and such a safe place
to breed and be
> free, at least until they are delivered to your tank in which case they
are lunch :) the
> addition of macroalgae also allows your refugium to remove nitrates. and
the extra water
> volume helps create a more stable tank.
>
> > I had some clients that had a 55g tank "reef-ready" with a plenum on the
> > bottom of the tank. Last I looked at reef setups, you weren't supposed
to
> > have much gravel/sand on the bottom (1/4" maybe). How does a plenum
differ
> > in function from the DSB I keep reading about?
>
> plenum's and dsb's also both help to remove nitrates from the tank, they
are 2 different
> ways of doing the same thing. the alternative no or a thin substraite does
not remove
> nitrate.
>
> > Next stupid question: I have 4-5 aquariums at my parent's place in VA.
I
> > live in San Diego now. Anyone have good luck shipping tanks cross
country
> > without breaking them? Since I've got "extra" tanks/stands/filters/etc.
> > already, I don't fancy buying new ones... Mmmmmm....55gal
reeeefffff.....
>
> geesh I feel good when I can ship my tanks across my living room :)
>
> ok so not that bad, but it sure feels like it sometimes. it should be
doable you might
> need to visit the folks to help get things packed correctly depending on
how/who ships
> them you may or may not need to box them yourself.
>
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike
>
>
>
> --
> Richard Reynolds
>
>
>
>
>
>

[Marc Levenson]

Mike, visit my site for tons of information about sumps and refugiums.

http://www.melevsreef.com

Marc


"Mike S." wrote:

> I have a friend that is looking to buy a sal****er aquarium (fish only). He
> asked me questions 'cause I have a 29g fresh tank setup in my LR. Weelll,
> to make a long story short, I've got the reef bug again. The last time I
> had it I was in college. Please don't ask how long ago!
>
> When did this refugium thing start happening?
>
> WTF do they do exactly that a wet/dry/trickle filter doesn't? (I've looked
> at the FAQ so don't flame me!)
>
> I had some clients that had a 55g tank "reef-ready" with a plenum on the
> bottom of the tank. Last I looked at reef setups, you weren't supposed to
> have much gravel/sand on the bottom (1/4" maybe). How does a plenum differ
> in function from the DSB I keep reading about?
>
> Next stupid question: I have 4-5 aquariums at my parent's place in VA. I
> live in San Diego now. Anyone have good luck shipping tanks cross country
> without breaking them? Since I've got "extra" tanks/stands/filters/etc.
> already, I don't fancy buying new ones... Mmmmmm....55gal reeeefffff.....
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike

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Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com

[Mike S.]

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> Mike, visit my site for tons of information about sumps and refugiums.
>
> http://www.melevsreef.com
>
> Marc

I have been! That's one of the things that's pushing me back into the fold,
so to speak.

Just think: if I'd set up that reef back in the late 80s, I'd be the one
giving out advice. But Nooooo, didn't have any $$ back then.

Mike



>
>
> "Mike S." wrote:
>
> > I have a friend that is looking to buy a sal****er aquarium (fish only).
He
> > asked me questions 'cause I have a 29g fresh tank setup in my LR.
Weelll,
> > to make a long story short, I've got the reef bug again. The last time
I
> > had it I was in college. Please don't ask how long ago!
> >
> > When did this refugium thing start happening?
> >
> > WTF do they do exactly that a wet/dry/trickle filter doesn't? (I've
looked
> > at the FAQ so don't flame me!)
> >
> > I had some clients that had a 55g tank "reef-ready" with a plenum on the
> > bottom of the tank. Last I looked at reef setups, you weren't supposed
to
> > have much gravel/sand on the bottom (1/4" maybe). How does a plenum
differ
> > in function from the DSB I keep reading about?
> >
> > Next stupid question: I have 4-5 aquariums at my parent's place in VA.
I
> > live in San Diego now. Anyone have good luck shipping tanks cross
country
> > without breaking them? Since I've got "extra" tanks/stands/filters/etc.
> > already, I don't fancy buying new ones... Mmmmmm....55gal
reeeefffff.....
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike
>
> --
> Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>
>

[Marc Levenson]

Hey, neither did I. LOL

Marc


"Mike S." wrote:

> Just think: if I'd set up that reef back in the late 80s, I'd be the one
> giving out advice. But Nooooo, didn't have any $$ back then.
>
> Mike
>
>

--
Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
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