New Tank -- Progress

[Phil Krasnostein]

A few days ago I posted the following:

We are in the process of setting up a new marine tank (about 1 week into the
process) -- for the first time.

The tank is 1220 mm long by 350 mm wide by 450mm deep.
We have an Eheim 2217 filter (about 1000 litres per hour) with ceramic rings
and sintered glass substrate, and 1 additional powerhead of 1200 litres per
hour.
Lighting is one flourescent tube 40 watt Powerglo and one 36 watt actinic --
about 50 mm from the surface of the water.
We have an air driven protein skimmer.
We have 28 kg of live rock and about 75 mm of coral sand.
We are targeting SG 1.022, pH 8.1, Temp 26 deg. C.
The NH4, NO2, NO3 seem to be doing as they should so far.

Following the replies I got, I have added another flouro. The tank is now
around 10 days old. We got things going with purchased bacteria, then live
rock, then yesterday more bacteria. Before the second dose of bacteria was
added, we had spikes in NH3/NH4, NO2 and NO3, and then all settled to very
low levels -- after the second dose, only the NO3 has spiked. The protein
skimmer is removing loads of brown "gunk" and we have algae?? (fine hairlike
green mostly) growing on the live rocks and now on the glass.

Based on what I have heard, it all seems to be happening too quickly and
easily -- or am I missing the point? How will I know when the tank will be
ready for fish? Should I clean the algae off the glass or wait for fish to
eat it?

Thanks in advance.

Phil Krasnostein

[Marc Levenson]

Hi Phil,

What I would suggest is that you take your time and just give it 2 more weeks to
continue establishing a good population of beneficial bacteria. With no fish in
the tank, your LR will have some interesting critters running around that you
can observe during the day time, but even more so at night (flashlight duty).

After two weeks, if your Ammonia is 0, Nitrites are 0, and Nitrates are 20ppm or
less, you can safely *begin* to add livestock a little bit at a time. One or
two fish, then wait a week as your biological filtration adjusts to that new
load, then something new, and wait.....

This is really the best way to assure success.

Btw, I'd keep cleaning the glass and skim non-stop.

Marc


Phil Krasnostein wrote:

> A few days ago I posted the following:
>
> We are in the process of setting up a new marine tank (about 1 week into the
> process) -- for the first time.
>
> The tank is 1220 mm long by 350 mm wide by 450mm deep.
> We have an Eheim 2217 filter (about 1000 litres per hour) with ceramic rings
> and sintered glass substrate, and 1 additional powerhead of 1200 litres per
> hour.
> Lighting is one flourescent tube 40 watt Powerglo and one 36 watt actinic --
> about 50 mm from the surface of the water.
> We have an air driven protein skimmer.
> We have 28 kg of live rock and about 75 mm of coral sand.
> We are targeting SG 1.022, pH 8.1, Temp 26 deg. C.
> The NH4, NO2, NO3 seem to be doing as they should so far.
>
> Following the replies I got, I have added another flouro. The tank is now
> around 10 days old. We got things going with purchased bacteria, then live
> rock, then yesterday more bacteria. Before the second dose of bacteria was
> added, we had spikes in NH3/NH4, NO2 and NO3, and then all settled to very
> low levels -- after the second dose, only the NO3 has spiked. The protein
> skimmer is removing loads of brown "gunk" and we have algae?? (fine hairlike
> green mostly) growing on the live rocks and now on the glass.
>
> Based on what I have heard, it all seems to be happening too quickly and
> easily -- or am I missing the point? How will I know when the tank will be
> ready for fish? Should I clean the algae off the glass or wait for fish to
> eat it?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Phil Krasnostein

--
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[Dan Norgard]

Marc's right...you can spend hours watching the new life on the LR.
Something new pops up every day. Grab a magnifying glass, take your time
and enjoy it before some fish becomes the center of attention. 8^) I'm
looking forward to a few months with just LS and LR in my new 80G
Dan

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
Hi Phil,

What I would suggest is that you take your time and just give it 2 more
weeks to
continue establishing a good population of beneficial bacteria. With no
fish in
the tank, your LR will have some interesting critters running around that
you
can observe during the day time, but even more so at night (flashlight
duty).

After two weeks, if your Ammonia is 0, Nitrites are 0, and Nitrates are
20ppm or
less, you can safely *begin* to add livestock a little bit at a time. One
or
two fish, then wait a week as your biological filtration adjusts to that new
load, then something new, and wait.....

This is really the best way to assure success.

Btw, I'd keep cleaning the glass and skim non-stop.

Marc


Phil Krasnostein wrote:

> A few days ago I posted the following:
>
> We are in the process of setting up a new marine tank (about 1 week into
the
> process) -- for the first time.
>
> The tank is 1220 mm long by 350 mm wide by 450mm deep.
> We have an Eheim 2217 filter (about 1000 litres per hour) with ceramic
rings
> and sintered glass substrate, and 1 additional powerhead of 1200 litres
per
> hour.
> Lighting is one flourescent tube 40 watt Powerglo and one 36 watt
actinic --
> about 50 mm from the surface of the water.
> We have an air driven protein skimmer.
> We have 28 kg of live rock and about 75 mm of coral sand.
> We are targeting SG 1.022, pH 8.1, Temp 26 deg. C.
> The NH4, NO2, NO3 seem to be doing as they should so far.
>
> Following the replies I got, I have added another flouro. The tank is now
> around 10 days old. We got things going with purchased bacteria, then
live
> rock, then yesterday more bacteria. Before the second dose of bacteria
was
> added, we had spikes in NH3/NH4, NO2 and NO3, and then all settled to very
> low levels -- after the second dose, only the NO3 has spiked. The protein
> skimmer is removing loads of brown "gunk" and we have algae?? (fine
hairlike
> green mostly) growing on the live rocks and now on the glass.
>
> Based on what I have heard, it all seems to be happening too quickly and
> easily -- or am I missing the point? How will I know when the tank will
be
> ready for fish? Should I clean the algae off the glass or wait for fish
to
> eat it?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Phil Krasnostein

--
Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com

[Phil Krasnostein]

Hi Marc

Thanks very much for the sound advice. I have been reading several of your
posts, and appreciate you taking an interest in an Australian tank.


Phil


"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Phil,
>
> What I would suggest is that you take your time and just give it 2 more
weeks to
> continue establishing a good population of beneficial bacteria. With no
fish in
> the tank, your LR will have some interesting critters running around that
you
> can observe during the day time, but even more so at night (flashlight
duty).
>
> After two weeks, if your Ammonia is 0, Nitrites are 0, and Nitrates are
20ppm or
> less, you can safely *begin* to add livestock a little bit at a time. One
or
> two fish, then wait a week as your biological filtration adjusts to that
new
> load, then something new, and wait.....
>
> This is really the best way to assure success.
>
> Btw, I'd keep cleaning the glass and skim non-stop.
>
> Marc
>
>
> Phil Krasnostein wrote:
>
> > A few days ago I posted the following:
> >
> > We are in the process of setting up a new marine tank (about 1 week into
the
> > process) -- for the first time.
> >
> > The tank is 1220 mm long by 350 mm wide by 450mm deep.
> > We have an Eheim 2217 filter (about 1000 litres per hour) with ceramic
rings
> > and sintered glass substrate, and 1 additional powerhead of 1200 litres
per
> > hour.
> > Lighting is one flourescent tube 40 watt Powerglo and one 36 watt
actinic --
> > about 50 mm from the surface of the water.
> > We have an air driven protein skimmer.
> > We have 28 kg of live rock and about 75 mm of coral sand.
> > We are targeting SG 1.022, pH 8.1, Temp 26 deg. C.
> > The NH4, NO2, NO3 seem to be doing as they should so far.
> >
> > Following the replies I got, I have added another flouro. The tank is
now
> > around 10 days old. We got things going with purchased bacteria, then
live
> > rock, then yesterday more bacteria. Before the second dose of bacteria
was
> > added, we had spikes in NH3/NH4, NO2 and NO3, and then all settled to
very
> > low levels -- after the second dose, only the NO3 has spiked. The
protein
> > skimmer is removing loads of brown "gunk" and we have algae?? (fine
hairlike
> > green mostly) growing on the live rocks and now on the glass.
> >
> > Based on what I have heard, it all seems to be happening too quickly and
> > easily -- or am I missing the point? How will I know when the tank will
be
> > ready for fish? Should I clean the algae off the glass or wait for fish
to
> > eat it?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Phil Krasnostein
>
> --
> Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>
>

[Phil Krasnostein]

Thanks Dan -- we are having a lot of fun with this already. DOes this group
like to get pictures posted??

Phil


"Dan Norgard" > wrote in message
...
> Marc's right...you can spend hours watching the new life on the LR.
> Something new pops up every day. Grab a magnifying glass, take your time
> and enjoy it before some fish becomes the center of attention. 8^) I'm
> looking forward to a few months with just LS and LR in my new 80G
> Dan
>
> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> ...
> Hi Phil,
>
> What I would suggest is that you take your time and just give it 2 more
> weeks to
> continue establishing a good population of beneficial bacteria. With no
> fish in
> the tank, your LR will have some interesting critters running around that
> you
> can observe during the day time, but even more so at night (flashlight
> duty).
>
> After two weeks, if your Ammonia is 0, Nitrites are 0, and Nitrates are
> 20ppm or
> less, you can safely *begin* to add livestock a little bit at a time. One
> or
> two fish, then wait a week as your biological filtration adjusts to that
new
> load, then something new, and wait.....
>
> This is really the best way to assure success.
>
> Btw, I'd keep cleaning the glass and skim non-stop.
>
> Marc
>
>
> Phil Krasnostein wrote:
>
> > A few days ago I posted the following:
> >
> > We are in the process of setting up a new marine tank (about 1 week into
> the
> > process) -- for the first time.
> >
> > The tank is 1220 mm long by 350 mm wide by 450mm deep.
> > We have an Eheim 2217 filter (about 1000 litres per hour) with ceramic
> rings
> > and sintered glass substrate, and 1 additional powerhead of 1200 litres
> per
> > hour.
> > Lighting is one flourescent tube 40 watt Powerglo and one 36 watt
> actinic --
> > about 50 mm from the surface of the water.
> > We have an air driven protein skimmer.
> > We have 28 kg of live rock and about 75 mm of coral sand.
> > We are targeting SG 1.022, pH 8.1, Temp 26 deg. C.
> > The NH4, NO2, NO3 seem to be doing as they should so far.
> >
> > Following the replies I got, I have added another flouro. The tank is
now
> > around 10 days old. We got things going with purchased bacteria, then
> live
> > rock, then yesterday more bacteria. Before the second dose of bacteria
> was
> > added, we had spikes in NH3/NH4, NO2 and NO3, and then all settled to
very
> > low levels -- after the second dose, only the NO3 has spiked. The
protein
> > skimmer is removing loads of brown "gunk" and we have algae?? (fine
> hairlike
> > green mostly) growing on the live rocks and now on the glass.
> >
> > Based on what I have heard, it all seems to be happening too quickly and
> > easily -- or am I missing the point? How will I know when the tank will
> be
> > ready for fish? Should I clean the algae off the glass or wait for fish
> to
> > eat it?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Phil Krasnostein
>
> --
> Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>
>
>

[Dr Drudge]

"Dan Norgard" > wrote in message >...
> Marc's right...you can spend hours watching the new life on the LR.
> Something new pops up every day. Grab a magnifying glass, take your time
> and enjoy it before some fish becomes the center of attention. 8^) I'm
> looking forward to a few months with just LS and LR in my new 80G
> Dan
>

Yeah- I spend a lot of time and gee a lot of enjoyment just watching
the stuff crawling/slithering around my reef.

The only problem is that everyone keeps asking me when I'm going to
put some fish in.
Then I get some strange looks after pointing out all the microfauna
and such as well as explaining about the hundreds of aipstasia I'm
battling (and losing).

[Simon O'Keeffe]

Hey Dan you may get more detailed local advice in an australian forum.
Try www.masa,asn.au
MASA stands for MArine Aquarium Societies of Australia.
It's a great place for local info and there are some really
knowledgeable people there. BTW if your not a member of the society in
your state you should look into this too, it really takes your reefing
to new levels.
Simon

Phil Krasnostein wrote:

>Thanks Dan -- we are having a lot of fun with this already. DOes this group
>like to get pictures posted??
>
>Phil
>
>
>"Dan Norgard" > wrote in message
...
>
>
>>Marc's right...you can spend hours watching the new life on the LR.
>>Something new pops up every day. Grab a magnifying glass, take your time
>>and enjoy it before some fish becomes the center of attention. 8^) I'm
>>looking forward to a few months with just LS and LR in my new 80G
>>Dan
>>
>>"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
>>Hi Phil,
>>
>>What I would suggest is that you take your time and just give it 2 more
>>weeks to
>>continue establishing a good population of beneficial bacteria. With no
>>fish in
>>the tank, your LR will have some interesting critters running around that
>>you
>>can observe during the day time, but even more so at night (flashlight
>>duty).
>>
>>After two weeks, if your Ammonia is 0, Nitrites are 0, and Nitrates are
>>20ppm or
>>less, you can safely *begin* to add livestock a little bit at a time. One
>>or
>>two fish, then wait a week as your biological filtration adjusts to that
>>
>>
>new
>
>
>>load, then something new, and wait.....
>>
>>This is really the best way to assure success.
>>
>>Btw, I'd keep cleaning the glass and skim non-stop.
>>
>>Marc
>>
>>
>>Phil Krasnostein wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>A few days ago I posted the following:
>>>
>>>We are in the process of setting up a new marine tank (about 1 week into
>>>
>>>
>>the
>>
>>
>>>process) -- for the first time.
>>>
>>>The tank is 1220 mm long by 350 mm wide by 450mm deep.
>>>We have an Eheim 2217 filter (about 1000 litres per hour) with ceramic
>>>
>>>
>>rings
>>
>>
>>>and sintered glass substrate, and 1 additional powerhead of 1200 litres
>>>
>>>
>>per
>>
>>
>>>hour.
>>>Lighting is one flourescent tube 40 watt Powerglo and one 36 watt
>>>
>>>
>>actinic --
>>
>>
>>>about 50 mm from the surface of the water.
>>>We have an air driven protein skimmer.
>>>We have 28 kg of live rock and about 75 mm of coral sand.
>>>We are targeting SG 1.022, pH 8.1, Temp 26 deg. C.
>>>The NH4, NO2, NO3 seem to be doing as they should so far.
>>>
>>>Following the replies I got, I have added another flouro. The tank is
>>>
>>>
>now
>
>
>>>around 10 days old. We got things going with purchased bacteria, then
>>>
>>>
>>live
>>
>>
>>>rock, then yesterday more bacteria. Before the second dose of bacteria
>>>
>>>
>>was
>>
>>
>>>added, we had spikes in NH3/NH4, NO2 and NO3, and then all settled to
>>>
>>>
>very
>
>
>>>low levels -- after the second dose, only the NO3 has spiked. The
>>>
>>>
>protein
>
>
>>>skimmer is removing loads of brown "gunk" and we have algae?? (fine
>>>
>>>
>>hairlike
>>
>>
>>>green mostly) growing on the live rocks and now on the glass.
>>>
>>>Based on what I have heard, it all seems to be happening too quickly and
>>>easily -- or am I missing the point? How will I know when the tank will
>>>
>>>
>>be
>>
>>
>>>ready for fish? Should I clean the algae off the glass or wait for fish
>>>
>>>
>>to
>>
>>
>>>eat it?
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>Phil Krasnostein
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
>>Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
>>Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
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