Sailfert KH/ALK test

[Matthew E. Schaefer]

I was wondering if anyody new where i can find instructions for the Sailfert
KH/ALK test? I seem to have lost mine. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.

[Christopher Beasley]

Here is a scan of the instructions, I didn't proof the whole thing... so
there might be spelling errors here and there.


INSTRUCTIONS
I] Add with the 5 ml syringe 4 ml of water in the test vial. For a lower
resolution and more tests per kit add 2 instead of 4 ml.

2] Shake the KH-Ind dropping bottle a few times and add 2 drops in the test
vial (1 drop for the low resolution mode).

3] Put the plastic tip firmly on the 1 ml syringe. And draw into the syringe
the KH reagent (ensure that the end of the plastic tip is constantly
submersed in the KH reagent) till the lower end of the black part of the
piston is exactly at the 1.00 ml mark. There will be some air present just
below the piston.
This is the air which was present between the end of the
plastic tip and the piston. This will not influence the test result.

4] Add dropwise with the 1 ml syringe the KH reagent to the water in the
test tube. Swirl after each drop a second or two. Continue with this until
the color changes from blue/green to an orange-red or pink color (whichever
color is observed first).

5) Hold the syringe with the tip facing upward and read the position of the,
now the upper end, of the black part of the piston. The syringe has
graduations of 0.01 mi. Read the KH or alkalinity value from the table or
calculate as follows.
KH in dKH = (1 - reading in step 5) x 16
AIk in meq/L = (1 - reading in step 5) x 5.71
If you have chosen for the lower resolution multiply the calculated result
by 2

Natural sea water has a KH of 8 dKH or alkalinity of 2.9 meq/L.
KH . and alkalinity are increased safely with Salifert'sKH + pH Buffer.

"Matthew E. Schaefer" > wrote in message
...
> I was wondering if anyody new where i can find instructions for the
Sailfert
> KH/ALK test? I seem to have lost mine. Any help would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
>

[Joe Varghese]

"Christopher Beasley" > wrote in message >...
> Here is a scan of the instructions, I didn't proof the whole thing... so
> there might be spelling errors here and there.

Off-topic, but what software/hardware do you use to scan written things into text?

[Christopher Beasley]

I just used the software that came with my HP scanner to scan it into MS
Word. There are proggies out there that have a much better word and format
recognition like ABBYY FineReader.... OmniPage etc.


"Joe Varghese" > wrote in message
om...
> "Christopher Beasley" > wrote in message
>...
> > Here is a scan of the instructions, I didn't proof the whole thing... so
> > there might be spelling errors here and there.
>
> Off-topic, but what software/hardware do you use to scan written things
into text?

[[email protected]]

Chris,
can you scan the Nitrate kit and calcium kit too ....Ive had a
bit spill of sal****er iver mine!!



On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 16:06:26 GMT, "Christopher Beasley"
> wrote:

>I just used the software that came with my HP scanner to scan it into MS
>Word. There are proggies out there that have a much better word and format
>recognition like ABBYY FineReader.... OmniPage etc.
>
>
>"Joe Varghese" > wrote in message
om...
>> "Christopher Beasley" > wrote in message
>...
>> > Here is a scan of the instructions, I didn't proof the whole thing... so
>> > there might be spelling errors here and there.
>>
>> Off-topic, but what software/hardware do you use to scan written things
>into text?
>

[Richard Ryerson]

Here is a link to reef geek's, they have a few salifert manuals online...

http://www.reefgeek.com/resources/product_manuals.html

I know the Alk isnt there, but maybe others will be able to use the ones
there.

-Rick

"Matthew E. Schaefer" > wrote in message
...
> I was wondering if anyody new where i can find instructions for the
Sailfert
> KH/ALK test? I seem to have lost mine. Any help would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
>

[David Wood]

Something I've never understood. Why don't the readings obtained from
the table match the readings obtained using the multiplying factors?
Example: The reading on the syringe is, say, 0.40
Reading the table gives us--dKH=9.6 and meq/L=3.43
While using the factors we(I)get dKH=6.4( 0.40X16)and meq/L=2.284
(0.40X5.71)
Something is wrong! (I suspect it's me somehow)
Would someone PLEASE explain this.
Thx
CC
> 5) Hold the syringe with the tip facing upward and read the position of the,
> now the upper end, of the black part of the piston. The syringe has
> graduations of 0.01 mi. Read the KH or alkalinity value from the table or
> calculate as follows.
> KH in dKH = (1 - reading in step 5) x 16
> AIk in meq/L = (1 - reading in step 5) x 5.71
> If you have chosen for the lower resolution multiply the calculated result
> by 2
>

[Mort]

Maybe they are compensating for the amount of air that is taken in to the
syringe??? (<--- WAG)

~Mort



"David Wood" > wrote in message
om...
> Something I've never understood. Why don't the readings obtained from
> the table match the readings obtained using the multiplying factors?
> Example: The reading on the syringe is, say, 0.40
> Reading the table gives us--dKH=9.6 and meq/L=3.43
> While using the factors we(I)get dKH=6.4( 0.40X16)and meq/L=2.284
> (0.40X5.71)
> Something is wrong! (I suspect it's me somehow)
> Would someone PLEASE explain this.
> Thx
> CC
> > 5) Hold the syringe with the tip facing upward and read the position of
the,
> > now the upper end, of the black part of the piston. The syringe has
> > graduations of 0.01 mi. Read the KH or alkalinity value from the table
or
> > calculate as follows.
> > KH in dKH = (1 - reading in step 5) x 16
> > AIk in meq/L = (1 - reading in step 5) x 5.71
> > If you have chosen for the lower resolution multiply the calculated
result
> > by 2
> >

[Dragon Slayer]

because your doing it bass awkwards.

you multiply the amount you USED. not what is left in the syringe.

if you have 0.4, you used 0.6
0.6x16=9.6

kc


"David Wood" > wrote in message
om...
> Something I've never understood. Why don't the readings obtained from
> the table match the readings obtained using the multiplying factors?
> Example: The reading on the syringe is, say, 0.40
> Reading the table gives us--dKH=9.6 and meq/L=3.43
> While using the factors we(I)get dKH=6.4( 0.40X16)and meq/L=2.284
> (0.40X5.71)
> Something is wrong! (I suspect it's me somehow)
> Would someone PLEASE explain this.
> Thx
> CC
> > 5) Hold the syringe with the tip facing upward and read the position of
the,
> > now the upper end, of the black part of the piston. The syringe has
> > graduations of 0.01 mi. Read the KH or alkalinity value from the table
or
> > calculate as follows.
> > KH in dKH = (1 - reading in step 5) x 16
> > AIk in meq/L = (1 - reading in step 5) x 5.71
> > If you have chosen for the lower resolution multiply the calculated
result
> > by 2
> >

[David Wood]

Well....that would certainly explain the difference. It would seem
that there is a serious omission in the instructions in step 5. The
instructions states to use the "...reading in step 5".
It doesn't indicate the amount used or the amount remaining, nor does
it indicate that two numbers are needed to use both the table and the
multifying factors.
However using your imput the following is true.
1. Using the table it's the amount remaining. (0.40)
2. Using the multifying factors it's the amount used. (0.60)

"Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message >...
> because your doing it bass awkwards.
>
> you multiply the amount you USED. not what is left in the syringe.
>
> if you have 0.4, you used 0.6
> 0.6x16=9.6
>
>

[Christopher Beasley]

there is no omission in the instructions... you just overlooked the 1 -
reading.

KH in dKH = (1 - reading in step 5) x 16
AIk in meq/L = (1 - reading in step 5) x 5.71

1 - .40 = .60
..60 x 16 = 9.6

1 - 40 = .60
..60 x 5.71 = 3.426

Chris

"David Wood" > wrote in message
om...
> Well....that would certainly explain the difference. It would seem
> that there is a serious omission in the instructions in step 5. The
> instructions states to use the "...reading in step 5".
> It doesn't indicate the amount used or the amount remaining, nor does
> it indicate that two numbers are needed to use both the table and the
> multifying factors.
> However using your imput the following is true.
> 1. Using the table it's the amount remaining. (0.40)
> 2. Using the multifying factors it's the amount used. (0.60)
>
> "Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
>...
> > because your doing it bass awkwards.
> >
> > you multiply the amount you USED. not what is left in the syringe.
> >
> > if you have 0.4, you used 0.6
> > 0.6x16=9.6
> >
> >

[David Wood]

Chris,
aaaah so.....
What I 'saw' was #1 'dash'...'reading in step 5.' and etc.
Would have caught it had they used 1.0 instead.
Thx
CC


"Christopher Beasley" > wrote in message >...
> there is no omission in the instructions... you just overlooked the 1 -
> reading.
>
> KH in dKH = (1 - reading in step 5) x 16
> AIk in meq/L = (1 - reading in step 5) x 5.71
>
> 1 - .40 = .60
> .60 x 16 = 9.6
>
> 1 - 40 = .60
> .60 x 5.71 = 3.426
>
> Chris
>

[Christopher Beasley]

I agree that some of the instruction sets are not very well worded.

Chris

"David Wood" > wrote in message
om...
> Chris,
> aaaah so.....
> What I 'saw' was #1 'dash'...'reading in step 5.' and etc.
> Would have caught it had they used 1.0 instead.
> Thx
> CC
>