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Mort
January 31st 04, 02:13 AM
I remeber hearing about this before, and I thought I knew the answer to this
question.

I thought a strainer on the inlet of the powerhead would stop an anemone
from getting sucked in.

Well, my powerhead PULLED my BTA through the veins of the strainer that were
no more than 1/16th of an inch.

Is there another solution besides using a foam pad over the inlet?

TIA

~Mort

Marc Levenson
February 1st 04, 04:20 AM
No, the pad is your best defense. Just put the foam over it when the anemone is
near it, and once it is parked somewhere, you can safely remove the pad. Just
rinse it out every week, or more often.

Marc


Mort wrote:

> I remeber hearing about this before, and I thought I knew the answer to this
> question.
>
> I thought a strainer on the inlet of the powerhead would stop an anemone
> from getting sucked in.
>
> Well, my powerhead PULLED my BTA through the veins of the strainer that were
> no more than 1/16th of an inch.
>
> Is there another solution besides using a foam pad over the inlet?
>
> TIA
>
> ~Mort

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Mort
February 1st 04, 04:27 AM
My problem is I have the P.Heads hidden behind LR so you cant see them.
Personally, I think they are an eye sore but if that is what I need to do
for a happy reef then so be it =)

~Mort

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> No, the pad is your best defense. Just put the foam over it when the
anemone is
> near it, and once it is parked somewhere, you can safely remove the pad.
Just
> rinse it out every week, or more often.
>
> Marc
>
>
> Mort wrote:
>
> > I remeber hearing about this before, and I thought I knew the answer to
this
> > question.
> >
> > I thought a strainer on the inlet of the powerhead would stop an anemone
> > from getting sucked in.
> >
> > Well, my powerhead PULLED my BTA through the veins of the strainer that
were
> > no more than 1/16th of an inch.
> >
> > Is there another solution besides using a foam pad over the inlet?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > ~Mort
>
> --
> Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>
>

Marc Levenson
February 1st 04, 08:00 AM
I always had my powerheads where I could reach them.

Here's an alternative for you Mort. Take a 12" long piece of PVC, and drill
about 40 holes in it. Insert the intake basket of the pump in that PVC, and
even if the anemone does get near, there are so many holes all over the pipe
that it can crawl away.

I made a pipe like that for my closed loop.

Marc


Mort wrote:

> My problem is I have the P.Heads hidden behind LR so you cant see them.
> Personally, I think they are an eye sore but if that is what I need to do
> for a happy reef then so be it =)
>
> ~Mort
>
> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > No, the pad is your best defense. Just put the foam over it when the
> anemone is
> > near it, and once it is parked somewhere, you can safely remove the pad.
> Just
> > rinse it out every week, or more often.
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > Mort wrote:
> >
> > > I remeber hearing about this before, and I thought I knew the answer to
> this
> > > question.
> > >
> > > I thought a strainer on the inlet of the powerhead would stop an anemone
> > > from getting sucked in.
> > >
> > > Well, my powerhead PULLED my BTA through the veins of the strainer that
> were
> > > no more than 1/16th of an inch.
> > >
> > > Is there another solution besides using a foam pad over the inlet?
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > ~Mort
> >
> > --
> > Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> > Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> > Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
> >
> >

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Mort
February 1st 04, 05:50 PM
Great idea Marc. I'll have to see if I can incorporate that. Thanks!

~Mort

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> I always had my powerheads where I could reach them.
>
> Here's an alternative for you Mort. Take a 12" long piece of PVC, and
drill
> about 40 holes in it. Insert the intake basket of the pump in that PVC,
and
> even if the anemone does get near, there are so many holes all over the
pipe
> that it can crawl away.
>
> I made a pipe like that for my closed loop.
>
> Marc
>
>
> Mort wrote:
>
> > My problem is I have the P.Heads hidden behind LR so you cant see them.
> > Personally, I think they are an eye sore but if that is what I need to
do
> > for a happy reef then so be it =)
> >
> > ~Mort
> >
> > "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > No, the pad is your best defense. Just put the foam over it when the
> > anemone is
> > > near it, and once it is parked somewhere, you can safely remove the
pad.
> > Just
> > > rinse it out every week, or more often.
> > >
> > > Marc
> > >
> > >
> > > Mort wrote:
> > >
> > > > I remeber hearing about this before, and I thought I knew the answer
to
> > this
> > > > question.
> > > >
> > > > I thought a strainer on the inlet of the powerhead would stop an
anemone
> > > > from getting sucked in.
> > > >
> > > > Well, my powerhead PULLED my BTA through the veins of the strainer
that
> > were
> > > > no more than 1/16th of an inch.
> > > >
> > > > Is there another solution besides using a foam pad over the inlet?
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > >
> > > > ~Mort
> > >
> > > --
> > > Personal Page:
http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> > > Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> > > Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
> > >
> > >
>
> --
> Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>
>

Pszemol
February 1st 04, 06:46 PM
"Mort" > wrote in message m...
> Well, my powerhead PULLED my BTA through the veins of
> the strainer that were no more than 1/16th of an inch.

Little off-topic here, but what did you do with your
anemone remains? Are they just shredded to small pieces
or maybe you have one bigger one? If you have a bigger
piece left I would recommend keeping it in some spot
with slow water movement and maybe your animal will
heal - you know how robust Aiptasia anemones are - even
when you cut them to pieces they will recover from
a bite-size piece - BTA anemone has the same body
structure, so it should recover from it in my opinion.

I have not made any experiments on my own, but in the
event of such a mishap like yours I would give it a try.
It makes sense it should recover like Aiptasia does...

Mort
February 2nd 04, 02:15 AM
"Pszemol" > wrote in message
...
> "Mort" > wrote in message
m...
> > Well, my powerhead PULLED my BTA through the veins of
> > the strainer that were no more than 1/16th of an inch.
>
> Little off-topic here, but what did you do with your
> anemone remains? Are they just shredded to small pieces
> or maybe you have one bigger one? If you have a bigger
> piece left I would recommend keeping it in some spot
> with slow water movement and maybe your animal will
> heal - you know how robust Aiptasia anemones are - even
> when you cut them to pieces they will recover from
> a bite-size piece - BTA anemone has the same body
> structure, so it should recover from it in my opinion.
>
> I have not made any experiments on my own, but in the
> event of such a mishap like yours I would give it a try.
> It makes sense it should recover like Aiptasia does...

Yes Pszemol, so far it is healing quite nicely. It found its own spot with
a lot of flow and a little light and has been there for three days now.
Today was the first day I can see some tentacles again. It's a little
smaller but you can barely tell anything happened to it =)

I'll keep you posted...

~Mort

Pszemol
February 2nd 04, 04:20 AM
"Mort" > wrote in message ...
> Yes Pszemol, so far it is healing quite nicely. It found its own spot with
> a lot of flow and a little light and has been there for three days now.
> Today was the first day I can see some tentacles again. It's a little
> smaller but you can barely tell anything happened to it =)
>
> I'll keep you posted...

Maybe it is a good method of multiplying them to keep powerheads unprotected? ;-)

BR549
February 3rd 04, 03:03 AM
IMHO, your BTA was looking for water flow, the intake of the pump is high
flow, you stated about power heads: "I think they are an eye sore but if
that is what I need to do for a happy reef then so be it". get the pump out
of hiding and point the power head so current is making the BTA sway, power
heads are a necessary to alter the current in specific places. My wife, is
responsible for the inside of the tank, (I am responsible for the outside
hardware) she will move power heads or the animals 'till they look the best,
we have a brown Caribbean carpet anemone it has moved twice (an inch or two)
in the last year and when it moves she FREAKS and adjusts the power heads
accordingly, that either stops the movement or causes the anemone to move
back, by observing the way she directs the power heads, I believe your BTA
is in search of water flow. The Reef that you created is not your home, it
belongs to the inhabitants of the tank and you have to set it up for, an
eyesore here or there will be setoff by the beauty of the animal if you set
it up for them not you. IMHO.

BR549



"Mort" > wrote in message
m...
> I remeber hearing about this before, and I thought I knew the answer to
this
> question.
>
> I thought a strainer on the inlet of the powerhead would stop an anemone
> from getting sucked in.
>
> Well, my powerhead PULLED my BTA through the veins of the strainer that
were
> no more than 1/16th of an inch.
>
> Is there another solution besides using a foam pad over the inlet?
>
> TIA
>
> ~Mort
>
>
>
>

Pszemol
February 3rd 04, 04:15 AM
Harsh words, but it is hard to not agree with this 100% :-(

"BR549" > wrote in message . com...
> IMHO, your BTA was looking for water flow, the intake of the pump is high
> flow, you stated about power heads: "I think they are an eye sore but if
> that is what I need to do for a happy reef then so be it". get the pump out
> of hiding and point the power head so current is making the BTA sway, power
> heads are a necessary to alter the current in specific places. My wife, is
> responsible for the inside of the tank, (I am responsible for the outside
> hardware) she will move power heads or the animals 'till they look the best,
> we have a brown Caribbean carpet anemone it has moved twice (an inch or two)
> in the last year and when it moves she FREAKS and adjusts the power heads
> accordingly, that either stops the movement or causes the anemone to move
> back, by observing the way she directs the power heads, I believe your BTA
> is in search of water flow. The Reef that you created is not your home, it
> belongs to the inhabitants of the tank and you have to set it up for, an
> eyesore here or there will be setoff by the beauty of the animal if you set
> it up for them not you. IMHO.
>
> BR549

BR549
February 3rd 04, 04:39 AM
Sorry about it being harsh, I did not mean to be, it is the way it came out,
I didn't know how to explain it any other way, this was the best way I could
explain my point.

Sorry, no offence intended

BR549

"Pszemol" > wrote in message
...
> Harsh words, but it is hard to not agree with this 100% :-(
>
> "BR549" > wrote in message
. com...
> > IMHO, your BTA was looking for water flow, the intake of the pump is
high
> > flow, you stated about power heads: "I think they are an eye sore but if
> > that is what I need to do for a happy reef then so be it". get the pump
out
> > of hiding and point the power head so current is making the BTA sway,
power
> > heads are a necessary to alter the current in specific places. My wife,
is
> > responsible for the inside of the tank, (I am responsible for the
outside
> > hardware) she will move power heads or the animals 'till they look the
best,
> > we have a brown Caribbean carpet anemone it has moved twice (an inch or
two)
> > in the last year and when it moves she FREAKS and adjusts the power
heads
> > accordingly, that either stops the movement or causes the anemone to
move
> > back, by observing the way she directs the power heads, I believe your
BTA
> > is in search of water flow. The Reef that you created is not your home,
it
> > belongs to the inhabitants of the tank and you have to set it up for, an
> > eyesore here or there will be setoff by the beauty of the animal if you
set
> > it up for them not you. IMHO.
> >
> > BR549
>
>
>

BR549
February 3rd 04, 04:48 AM
We had a green carpet anemone about 10 years ago and a stone crab poked a
hole in the base of the animal, it went from a foot in diameter to the size
of a quarter, my wife found the hole, she would take a turkey baster filled
with brine shrimp and stick that in its mouth with her finger stuck in the
hole and feed it for over a month like this till the anemone healed, I was
amazed, they say anemones do not have a life span, they can live indefinitly
in the rite conditions.

BR549


"Pszemol" > wrote in message
...
> "Mort" > wrote in message
m...
> > Well, my powerhead PULLED my BTA through the veins of
> > the strainer that were no more than 1/16th of an inch.
>
> Little off-topic here, but what did you do with your
> anemone remains? Are they just shredded to small pieces
> or maybe you have one bigger one? If you have a bigger
> piece left I would recommend keeping it in some spot
> with slow water movement and maybe your animal will
> heal - you know how robust Aiptasia anemones are - even
> when you cut them to pieces they will recover from
> a bite-size piece - BTA anemone has the same body
> structure, so it should recover from it in my opinion.
>
> I have not made any experiments on my own, but in the
> event of such a mishap like yours I would give it a try.
> It makes sense it should recover like Aiptasia does...
>

Mort
February 3rd 04, 05:01 AM
Thank you for your perspective. I am learning more every day.
I will see what I can do about meeting BOTH requirements =)

~Mort


"BR549" > wrote in message
. ..
> Sorry about it being harsh, I did not mean to be, it is the way it came
out,
> I didn't know how to explain it any other way, this was the best way I
could
> explain my point.
>
> Sorry, no offence intended
>
> BR549
>
> "Pszemol" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Harsh words, but it is hard to not agree with this 100% :-(
> >
> > "BR549" > wrote in message
> . com...
> > > IMHO, your BTA was looking for water flow, the intake of the pump is
> high
> > > flow, you stated about power heads: "I think they are an eye sore but
if
> > > that is what I need to do for a happy reef then so be it". get the
pump
> out
> > > of hiding and point the power head so current is making the BTA sway,
> power
> > > heads are a necessary to alter the current in specific places. My
wife,
> is
> > > responsible for the inside of the tank, (I am responsible for the
> outside
> > > hardware) she will move power heads or the animals 'till they look the
> best,
> > > we have a brown Caribbean carpet anemone it has moved twice (an inch
or
> two)
> > > in the last year and when it moves she FREAKS and adjusts the power
> heads
> > > accordingly, that either stops the movement or causes the anemone to
> move
> > > back, by observing the way she directs the power heads, I believe your
> BTA
> > > is in search of water flow. The Reef that you created is not your
home,
> it
> > > belongs to the inhabitants of the tank and you have to set it up for,
an
> > > eyesore here or there will be setoff by the beauty of the animal if
you
> set
> > > it up for them not you. IMHO.
> > >
> > > BR549
> >
> >
> >
>
>

BR549
February 3rd 04, 05:24 AM
and by the way we had a couple anemones stuck in power heads in our first
tank years ago and the sponge trick did keep them out of the intake but they
still moved around

BR549