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Kelly
January 31st 04, 06:29 PM
I have been using this as per directions 3 drops per gallon morning and
night to try and fight cyno. Has anyone had good or bed experiences with
this product? So far I haven't really seen an improvement and the cyno is
coming more rapidly. Presently I remove it by hand.I removed last night and
now this morning its almost all back and I have a dead emerald crab which
may be unrelated or not. My tank params are:

30 gallon
60 pounds LR
2 carbon filters (looking at skimmers today)
65 50/50 PC and a 10 watt (actinic NO)
2 false percs
1 mandarin goby
1 lawnmower blenny
1 yellowtail damsel
2 hermits
2 turbo snails
5 astrea snails
1 coralbanded
1 emerald (now was 2)
some mushrooms, BTA, star polyps, toadstool, cauliflower & frogspawn.

I feed a frozen mix usually every 2nd or third day and have bee using Kent
phytoPlex and Coral accel.

Marc Levenson
February 1st 04, 08:05 AM
Kelly, Cyano bacteria is fueled by nitrates, phosphates, and slow current. Get
those down and increase your flow.

You can siphon out cyano with airline tubing, to get it out of your tank.

Marc


Kelly wrote:

> I have been using this as per directions 3 drops per gallon morning and
> night to try and fight cyno. Has anyone had good or bed experiences with
> this product? So far I haven't really seen an improvement and the cyno is
> coming more rapidly. Presently I remove it by hand.I removed last night and
> now this morning its almost all back and I have a dead emerald crab which
> may be unrelated or not. My tank params are:
>
> 30 gallon
> 60 pounds LR
> 2 carbon filters (looking at skimmers today)
> 65 50/50 PC and a 10 watt (actinic NO)
> 2 false percs
> 1 mandarin goby
> 1 lawnmower blenny
> 1 yellowtail damsel
> 2 hermits
> 2 turbo snails
> 5 astrea snails
> 1 coralbanded
> 1 emerald (now was 2)
> some mushrooms, BTA, star polyps, toadstool, cauliflower & frogspawn.
>
> I feed a frozen mix usually every 2nd or third day and have bee using Kent
> phytoPlex and Coral accel.

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Rod
February 2nd 04, 01:29 PM
Anything that is killing cyanoBACTERIA, will likely kill off benificial
bacteria that provides denitrification. if there is no (or not much)
denitrification going on, nitrates build, and fuel the cyano.

keeping the pH and Alk up via kalk additions will help a bunch. Also as Marc
pointed out, more current will also help (probably more than anything else)
keeping nitrates low via water changes and and GOOD protein skimmming. keeping
the3 temps at a normal temp (80-84) will also help. A salinity of NSW will also
help (35ppt 0r 1.026-1.027).
Cyano is heavily related to nitrates, poor salinity, poor current, and _not
related to phosphate_..
He is a good link to a post made by Eric Borneman after attending The NCRI
conference.
Cyanobacteria have specific chemotypes that can be used to measure bloom
biodiversity. They are poor indicators of nutrient enrichment and have no
relationship with phosphate, a negative relationship with Nitrogen/Nitrate, a
strong negative relationship with salinity, no relationship with other algae
growth (slightly negative with certain macroalgae (which I asked if it may be
due to secondary metanbolites acting as antibiotics, to which I discovered that
was the next course of study), a positive relationship with temperature and a
strong negative relationship with water motion. They tend to occur in 3 week
cyclical periods and are grazed, by far, primarily by amphipods and sea hares.
http://www.reefs.org/library/article/e_borneman4.html

Rod Buehler
www.asplashoflife.com

Kelly
February 2nd 04, 03:58 PM
Thanks for all the info Rod the article should be more than enough to get me
on my way :)
"Rod" > wrote in message
...
> Anything that is killing cyanoBACTERIA, will likely kill off benificial
> bacteria that provides denitrification. if there is no (or not much)
> denitrification going on, nitrates build, and fuel the cyano.
>
> keeping the pH and Alk up via kalk additions will help a bunch. Also as
Marc
> pointed out, more current will also help (probably more than anything
else)
> keeping nitrates low via water changes and and GOOD protein skimmming.
keeping
> the3 temps at a normal temp (80-84) will also help. A salinity of NSW will
also
> help (35ppt 0r 1.026-1.027).
> Cyano is heavily related to nitrates, poor salinity, poor current, and
_not
> related to phosphate_..
> He is a good link to a post made by Eric Borneman after attending The NCRI
> conference.
> Cyanobacteria have specific chemotypes that can be used to measure bloom
> biodiversity. They are poor indicators of nutrient enrichment and have no
> relationship with phosphate, a negative relationship with
Nitrogen/Nitrate, a
> strong negative relationship with salinity, no relationship with other
algae
> growth (slightly negative with certain macroalgae (which I asked if it may
be
> due to secondary metanbolites acting as antibiotics, to which I discovered
that
> was the next course of study), a positive relationship with temperature
and a
> strong negative relationship with water motion. They tend to occur in 3
week
> cyclical periods and are grazed, by far, primarily by amphipods and sea
hares.
> http://www.reefs.org/library/article/e_borneman4.html
>
> Rod Buehler
> www.asplashoflife.com