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Richard Ryerson
February 26th 04, 02:44 AM
Just paid 125 bucks (plus 20 shipping) for a 250W 10K MH retro kit. Comes
with a 18" batwing reflector, socket, 10K bulb, 10 foot ballast to bulb
cord, 3.5 foot ballast to wall cord and a magnetic ballast in a steel case.

This is going over my 46 gallon bow front lagoon.

The question here is; Do you think buying a 20K bulb is worth all the hype?
I am putting some really colorful clams in it soon along with some gorgeous
blue and pink zoo... I want the colors to really "pop" and to get a good
shimmer.

-Rick

Marc Levenson
February 26th 04, 03:29 AM
Well, that is what I'm told, but I've not seen a tank yet that I like with
20,000K bulbs. Taking pictures in that blue lighting is tricky too.

Marc


Richard Ryerson wrote:

> Just paid 125 bucks (plus 20 shipping) for a 250W 10K MH retro kit. Comes
> with a 18" batwing reflector, socket, 10K bulb, 10 foot ballast to bulb
> cord, 3.5 foot ballast to wall cord and a magnetic ballast in a steel case.
>
> This is going over my 46 gallon bow front lagoon.
>
> The question here is; Do you think buying a 20K bulb is worth all the hype?
> I am putting some really colorful clams in it soon along with some gorgeous
> blue and pink zoo... I want the colors to really "pop" and to get a good
> shimmer.
>
> -Rick

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Lee
February 26th 04, 03:35 AM
I guess it all comes down to color preference. I have a 20K 400W XM bulb
with 96W actinic 03 PC supplement over my 65G reef and I prefer the way it
looks to the 10K/actinic combo I had before (I do like the blue coloration).
I think it is a matter of preference but I also think my coralline algae has
taken off under the 20K light.

Lee

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> Well, that is what I'm told, but I've not seen a tank yet that I like with
> 20,000K bulbs. Taking pictures in that blue lighting is tricky too.
>
> Marc
>
>
> Richard Ryerson wrote:
>
> > Just paid 125 bucks (plus 20 shipping) for a 250W 10K MH retro kit.
Comes
> > with a 18" batwing reflector, socket, 10K bulb, 10 foot ballast to bulb
> > cord, 3.5 foot ballast to wall cord and a magnetic ballast in a steel
case.
> >
> > This is going over my 46 gallon bow front lagoon.
> >
> > The question here is; Do you think buying a 20K bulb is worth all the
hype?
> > I am putting some really colorful clams in it soon along with some
gorgeous
> > blue and pink zoo... I want the colors to really "pop" and to get a good
> > shimmer.
> >
> > -Rick
>
> --
> Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>
>

Richard Reynolds
February 26th 04, 05:44 AM
> The question here is; Do you think buying a 20K bulb is worth all the hype?
> I am putting some really colorful clams in it soon along with some gorgeous
> blue and pink zoo... I want the colors to really "pop" and to get a good
> shimmer.

I used to run sunburst 12,000k I switched to 20,000k and umm im 50/50 I like the look, but
the good bulbs are $$$$ and the soso bulbs are $$$ and the soso bulbs the blue was gone in
2 months, that made those $$$ bulbs way $$$$$$$ plus even the good 20,000k bulbs dont last
quite as long as a 12,000k sunburst. but while there good the light is SWEEEEET, colors
stand out more, and the light shimmer ?pattern?(fill in your fav word) is more
pronounced.

--
Richard Reynolds

Dragon Slayer
February 26th 04, 05:50 AM
my 180g has only 20kk lighting and I really like it. others think its to
blue but its personal preference. the corals do really stand out under it
much better then the 10kk's.

like Marc said the pic taking can be tricky but a little tweaking with the
white balance will solve that problem.

kc

"Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
...
> Just paid 125 bucks (plus 20 shipping) for a 250W 10K MH retro kit. Comes
> with a 18" batwing reflector, socket, 10K bulb, 10 foot ballast to bulb
> cord, 3.5 foot ballast to wall cord and a magnetic ballast in a steel
case.
>
> This is going over my 46 gallon bow front lagoon.
>
> The question here is; Do you think buying a 20K bulb is worth all the
hype?
> I am putting some really colorful clams in it soon along with some
gorgeous
> blue and pink zoo... I want the colors to really "pop" and to get a good
> shimmer.
>
> -Rick
>
>

Kelly
February 26th 04, 06:37 AM
Is that the one off EBay from the guy who sells a bunch of those in
different flavors? Aquarium and Hydroponics?
"Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
...
> Just paid 125 bucks (plus 20 shipping) for a 250W 10K MH retro kit. Comes
> with a 18" batwing reflector, socket, 10K bulb, 10 foot ballast to bulb
> cord, 3.5 foot ballast to wall cord and a magnetic ballast in a steel
case.
>
> This is going over my 46 gallon bow front lagoon.
>
> The question here is; Do you think buying a 20K bulb is worth all the
hype?
> I am putting some really colorful clams in it soon along with some
gorgeous
> blue and pink zoo... I want the colors to really "pop" and to get a good
> shimmer.
>
> -Rick
>
>

Rod
February 26th 04, 12:39 PM
Im with Mark. I dont really like any tanks that are lit with 20kk lamps.. too
blue for my taste. And to say that all animals will color better under 20kk is
simply BS.. some corals color up better under 6500K iwasakis, and some color
better under bluer (10-20kk) Lamps. (ATM I have everything running from 6500K
iwasakis to 20KK radiums) For a clam system I would go with nothing higher than
10KK lamps IMHO.
Rod Buehler
www.asplashoflife.com

Richard Ryerson
February 26th 04, 05:44 PM
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Kelly,

I believe it is the same guy. I found he has an online store too,
http://www.insidesun.com/

I hope you don't have bad things to say. :-$ His rating was very decent.

-Rick

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 06:37:47 GMT, Kelly wrote:

> Is that the one off EBay from the guy who sells a bunch of those in
> different flavors? Aquarium and Hydroponics?
> "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Just paid 125 bucks (plus 20 shipping) for a 250W 10K MH retro kit. Comes
>> with a 18" batwing reflector, socket, 10K bulb, 10 foot ballast to bulb
>> cord, 3.5 foot ballast to wall cord and a magnetic ballast in a steel
> case.
>>
>> This is going over my 46 gallon bow front lagoon.
>>
>> The question here is; Do you think buying a 20K bulb is worth all the
> hype?
>> I am putting some really colorful clams in it soon along with some
> gorgeous
>> blue and pink zoo... I want the colors to really "pop" and to get a good
>> shimmer.
>>
>> -Rick
>>
>>


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Kelly
February 27th 04, 03:31 AM
No, I was going to ask you how the transaction went before I bought one ;)


> Kelly,
>
> I believe it is the same guy. I found he has an online store too,
> http://www.insidesun.com/
>
> I hope you don't have bad things to say. :-$ His rating was very decent.
>
> -Rick

Kelly
February 29th 04, 05:47 AM
How to do disperse the light so you don't just have one big bright spot in
the middle? Will the reflector do a good enough job to spread it over most
of the 46 gallon tank? How long is the tank?
"Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
...
> Just paid 125 bucks (plus 20 shipping) for a 250W 10K MH retro kit. Comes
> with a 18" batwing reflector, socket, 10K bulb, 10 foot ballast to bulb
> cord, 3.5 foot ballast to wall cord and a magnetic ballast in a steel
case.
>
> This is going over my 46 gallon bow front lagoon.
>
> The question here is; Do you think buying a 20K bulb is worth all the
hype?
> I am putting some really colorful clams in it soon along with some
gorgeous
> blue and pink zoo... I want the colors to really "pop" and to get a good
> shimmer.
>
> -Rick
>
>

Marc Levenson
February 29th 04, 10:14 AM
Kelly, each MH bulb lights up 2 sq ft of surface area. So you'll have to
measure your tank to figure out what works. Odds are you'll need two bulbs,
with one or two reflectors.

Marc


Kelly wrote:

> How to do disperse the light so you don't just have one big bright spot in
> the middle? Will the reflector do a good enough job to spread it over most
> of the 46 gallon tank? How long is the tank?
>

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Richard Ryerson
March 1st 04, 05:14 AM
So far is okay... I paid for it immediately, wednesday night and it was
shipped out friday... I should have it monday / tuesday. Shipping was 20
buck.

Ill keep ya posted.

-Rick

"Kelly" > wrote in message
news:ASy%b.626130$ts4.43428@pd7tw3no...
> No, I was going to ask you how the transaction went before I bought one ;)
>
>
> > Kelly,
> >
> > I believe it is the same guy. I found he has an online store too,
> > http://www.insidesun.com/
> >
> > I hope you don't have bad things to say. :-$ His rating was very decent.
> >
> > -Rick
>
>

Richard Ryerson
March 1st 04, 05:18 AM
My tank is 36 inches long (46 gallon bow front). As long as the divider in
the middle og the tank doesn't cause to much trouble, I don't think I will
have too much trouble with light dispersement. Like Mark said, MH is good
for about 2 square feet of surface area, but well will see... But just in
case :D, I am bidding on another fixture.

I am going to try to mount the fixture on a sliding track in the canopy to
allow me to tweak the single light setup.

I'll keep ya posted.

-Rick

"Kelly" > wrote in message
news:u1f0c.645883$ts4.50117@pd7tw3no...
> How to do disperse the light so you don't just have one big bright spot in
> the middle? Will the reflector do a good enough job to spread it over most
> of the 46 gallon tank? How long is the tank?
> "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Just paid 125 bucks (plus 20 shipping) for a 250W 10K MH retro kit.
Comes
> > with a 18" batwing reflector, socket, 10K bulb, 10 foot ballast to bulb
> > cord, 3.5 foot ballast to wall cord and a magnetic ballast in a steel
> case.
> >
> > This is going over my 46 gallon bow front lagoon.
> >
> > The question here is; Do you think buying a 20K bulb is worth all the
> hype?
> > I am putting some really colorful clams in it soon along with some
> gorgeous
> > blue and pink zoo... I want the colors to really "pop" and to get a good
> > shimmer.
> >
> > -Rick
> >
> >
>
>

Richard Ryerson
March 3rd 04, 05:17 AM
Well here it is, Tuesday night and no light. I contacted the seller and he
says it was shipped TONIGHT!!! Man am I ****ed!!!

This guy took payment wednesday, said he'd get right on shipping it. Okay
fine sounds good.

Friday rolls around and he hasnt given me any shipping info. Hmmmm.... I
contact him and he assures me he shipped it earlier friday. Okay this is
cool I can understand this... Just getting hard to manage...

Tonight, no light :((...

I contact him and he has this cavaleer attitude about the whole thing...
Tells me that he just shipped it and it will be here tomorrow.

I made him give me the tracking number and UPS does have "some" shipment
under that # to my town. BUT!!! It is shipped UPS ground. No freaking way
it's getting here tomorrow, as promised.

If you plan on buying from this guy, so far just be careful of him lying and
make sure you get a tracking number.

Will keep you posted.

-Rick


"Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
...
> So far is okay... I paid for it immediately, wednesday night and it was
> shipped out friday... I should have it monday / tuesday. Shipping was 20
> buck.
>
> Ill keep ya posted.
>
> -Rick
>
> "Kelly" > wrote in message
> news:ASy%b.626130$ts4.43428@pd7tw3no...
> > No, I was going to ask you how the transaction went before I bought one
;)
> >
> >
> > > Kelly,
> > >
> > > I believe it is the same guy. I found he has an online store too,
> > > http://www.insidesun.com/
> > >
> > > I hope you don't have bad things to say. :-$ His rating was very
decent.
> > >
> > > -Rick
> >
> >
>
>

Richard Ryerson
March 5th 04, 03:06 AM
I finally received it!!

Very large box due to the size of the 18" reflector.

Everything is present and accounted for, but I can't tell if the bulb is a
10K or not. I am inclined to believe it is since that is what was written on
the outside of the shipping container and the color it produces has a nice
blue to it.

It runs very hot... oh my goodness does it... Ballast doesn't seem to much
though.

I am very upset however as to the service this guy gave. He did nothing but
lie during the whole shipping process. First lied about the shipging it and
then lied about next day service to make up for the first lie.

-Rick


"Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
...
> Well here it is, Tuesday night and no light. I contacted the seller and he
> says it was shipped TONIGHT!!! Man am I ****ed!!!
>
> This guy took payment wednesday, said he'd get right on shipping it. Okay
> fine sounds good.
>
> Friday rolls around and he hasnt given me any shipping info. Hmmmm.... I
> contact him and he assures me he shipped it earlier friday. Okay this is
> cool I can understand this... Just getting hard to manage...
>
> Tonight, no light :((...
>
> I contact him and he has this cavaleer attitude about the whole thing...
> Tells me that he just shipped it and it will be here tomorrow.
>
> I made him give me the tracking number and UPS does have "some" shipment
> under that # to my town. BUT!!! It is shipped UPS ground. No freaking way
> it's getting here tomorrow, as promised.
>
> If you plan on buying from this guy, so far just be careful of him lying
and
> make sure you get a tracking number.
>
> Will keep you posted.
>
> -Rick
>
>
> "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > So far is okay... I paid for it immediately, wednesday night and it was
> > shipped out friday... I should have it monday / tuesday. Shipping was 20
> > buck.
> >
> > Ill keep ya posted.
> >
> > -Rick
> >
> > "Kelly" > wrote in message
> > news:ASy%b.626130$ts4.43428@pd7tw3no...
> > > No, I was going to ask you how the transaction went before I bought
one
> ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Kelly,
> > > >
> > > > I believe it is the same guy. I found he has an online store too,
> > > > http://www.insidesun.com/
> > > >
> > > > I hope you don't have bad things to say. :-$ His rating was very
> decent.
> > > >
> > > > -Rick
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Darrin O'Bryan
March 5th 04, 03:47 AM
Glad to hear you finally received it. I've been following along as I was
thinking about buying one of these setups too. Does the ballast make any
noise?

On his website he charges $35.00 for an upgrade to a 10K bulb, but 10K bulb
is included in his eBay auction, probably should be the other way around.
I've read that a lot of the eBay Power Sellers are notorious for being some
of the slowest shippers. Many of them sell faster than they can ship, even
though he now has a message on his website acknowledging his slow shipping.

Regards,
Darrin

"Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
...
> I finally received it!!
>
> Very large box due to the size of the 18" reflector.
>
> Everything is present and accounted for, but I can't tell if the bulb is a
> 10K or not. I am inclined to believe it is since that is what was written
on
> the outside of the shipping container and the color it produces has a nice
> blue to it.
>
> It runs very hot... oh my goodness does it... Ballast doesn't seem to much
> though.
>
> I am very upset however as to the service this guy gave. He did nothing
but
> lie during the whole shipping process. First lied about the shipging it
and
> then lied about next day service to make up for the first lie.
>
> -Rick
>
>
> "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Well here it is, Tuesday night and no light. I contacted the seller and
he
> > says it was shipped TONIGHT!!! Man am I ****ed!!!
> >
> > This guy took payment wednesday, said he'd get right on shipping it.
Okay
> > fine sounds good.
> >
> > Friday rolls around and he hasnt given me any shipping info. Hmmmm.... I
> > contact him and he assures me he shipped it earlier friday. Okay this is
> > cool I can understand this... Just getting hard to manage...
> >
> > Tonight, no light :((...
> >
> > I contact him and he has this cavaleer attitude about the whole thing...
> > Tells me that he just shipped it and it will be here tomorrow.
> >
> > I made him give me the tracking number and UPS does have "some" shipment
> > under that # to my town. BUT!!! It is shipped UPS ground. No freaking
way
> > it's getting here tomorrow, as promised.
> >
> > If you plan on buying from this guy, so far just be careful of him lying
> and
> > make sure you get a tracking number.
> >
> > Will keep you posted.
> >
> > -Rick
> >
> >
> > "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > So far is okay... I paid for it immediately, wednesday night and it
was
> > > shipped out friday... I should have it monday / tuesday. Shipping was
20
> > > buck.
> > >
> > > Ill keep ya posted.
> > >
> > > -Rick
> > >
> > > "Kelly" > wrote in message
> > > news:ASy%b.626130$ts4.43428@pd7tw3no...
> > > > No, I was going to ask you how the transaction went before I bought
> one
> > ;)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Kelly,
> > > > >
> > > > > I believe it is the same guy. I found he has an online store too,
> > > > > http://www.insidesun.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope you don't have bad things to say. :-$ His rating was very
> > decent.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Rick
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Richard Ryerson
March 5th 04, 06:43 AM
Ballast doesnt make any noise to speak of... I had to place my ear near it
to hear it.

The shipping wasnt too slow... My problem was the lying... If there was some
problem, ballast not built yet, hey okay... But this guy had to tell me it
shipped when it didnt... And then took a hiddy hoe attitude towards it.

I am glad I bought it... Already got it installed :D :D But I would make
sure that I was on top of this guy all the way.

-Rick


"Darrin O'Bryan" > wrote in message
. ..
> Glad to hear you finally received it. I've been following along as I was
> thinking about buying one of these setups too. Does the ballast make
any
> noise?
>
> On his website he charges $35.00 for an upgrade to a 10K bulb, but 10K
bulb
> is included in his eBay auction, probably should be the other way around.
> I've read that a lot of the eBay Power Sellers are notorious for being
some
> of the slowest shippers. Many of them sell faster than they can ship,
even
> though he now has a message on his website acknowledging his slow
shipping.
>
> Regards,
> Darrin
>
> "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I finally received it!!
> >
> > Very large box due to the size of the 18" reflector.
> >
> > Everything is present and accounted for, but I can't tell if the bulb is
a
> > 10K or not. I am inclined to believe it is since that is what was
written
> on
> > the outside of the shipping container and the color it produces has a
nice
> > blue to it.
> >
> > It runs very hot... oh my goodness does it... Ballast doesn't seem to
much
> > though.
> >
> > I am very upset however as to the service this guy gave. He did nothing
> but
> > lie during the whole shipping process. First lied about the shipging it
> and
> > then lied about next day service to make up for the first lie.
> >
> > -Rick
> >
> >
> > "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Well here it is, Tuesday night and no light. I contacted the seller
and
> he
> > > says it was shipped TONIGHT!!! Man am I ****ed!!!
> > >
> > > This guy took payment wednesday, said he'd get right on shipping it.
> Okay
> > > fine sounds good.
> > >
> > > Friday rolls around and he hasnt given me any shipping info. Hmmmm....
I
> > > contact him and he assures me he shipped it earlier friday. Okay this
is
> > > cool I can understand this... Just getting hard to manage...
> > >
> > > Tonight, no light :((...
> > >
> > > I contact him and he has this cavaleer attitude about the whole
thing...
> > > Tells me that he just shipped it and it will be here tomorrow.
> > >
> > > I made him give me the tracking number and UPS does have "some"
shipment
> > > under that # to my town. BUT!!! It is shipped UPS ground. No freaking
> way
> > > it's getting here tomorrow, as promised.
> > >
> > > If you plan on buying from this guy, so far just be careful of him
lying
> > and
> > > make sure you get a tracking number.
> > >
> > > Will keep you posted.
> > >
> > > -Rick
> > >
> > >
> > > "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > So far is okay... I paid for it immediately, wednesday night and it
> was
> > > > shipped out friday... I should have it monday / tuesday. Shipping
was
> 20
> > > > buck.
> > > >
> > > > Ill keep ya posted.
> > > >
> > > > -Rick
> > > >
> > > > "Kelly" > wrote in message
> > > > news:ASy%b.626130$ts4.43428@pd7tw3no...
> > > > > No, I was going to ask you how the transaction went before I
bought
> > one
> > > ;)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Kelly,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I believe it is the same guy. I found he has an online store
too,
> > > > > > http://www.insidesun.com/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hope you don't have bad things to say. :-$ His rating was very
> > > decent.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Rick
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Richard Ryerson
March 5th 04, 06:55 AM
Oh and BTW, the mandarin really looks awesome under the light!!!



"Darrin O'Bryan" > wrote in message
. ..
> Glad to hear you finally received it. I've been following along as I was
> thinking about buying one of these setups too. Does the ballast make
any
> noise?
>
> On his website he charges $35.00 for an upgrade to a 10K bulb, but 10K
bulb
> is included in his eBay auction, probably should be the other way around.
> I've read that a lot of the eBay Power Sellers are notorious for being
some
> of the slowest shippers. Many of them sell faster than they can ship,
even
> though he now has a message on his website acknowledging his slow
shipping.
>
> Regards,
> Darrin
>
> "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I finally received it!!
> >
> > Very large box due to the size of the 18" reflector.
> >
> > Everything is present and accounted for, but I can't tell if the bulb is
a
> > 10K or not. I am inclined to believe it is since that is what was
written
> on
> > the outside of the shipping container and the color it produces has a
nice
> > blue to it.
> >
> > It runs very hot... oh my goodness does it... Ballast doesn't seem to
much
> > though.
> >
> > I am very upset however as to the service this guy gave. He did nothing
> but
> > lie during the whole shipping process. First lied about the shipging it
> and
> > then lied about next day service to make up for the first lie.
> >
> > -Rick
> >
> >
> > "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Well here it is, Tuesday night and no light. I contacted the seller
and
> he
> > > says it was shipped TONIGHT!!! Man am I ****ed!!!
> > >
> > > This guy took payment wednesday, said he'd get right on shipping it.
> Okay
> > > fine sounds good.
> > >
> > > Friday rolls around and he hasnt given me any shipping info. Hmmmm....
I
> > > contact him and he assures me he shipped it earlier friday. Okay this
is
> > > cool I can understand this... Just getting hard to manage...
> > >
> > > Tonight, no light :((...
> > >
> > > I contact him and he has this cavaleer attitude about the whole
thing...
> > > Tells me that he just shipped it and it will be here tomorrow.
> > >
> > > I made him give me the tracking number and UPS does have "some"
shipment
> > > under that # to my town. BUT!!! It is shipped UPS ground. No freaking
> way
> > > it's getting here tomorrow, as promised.
> > >
> > > If you plan on buying from this guy, so far just be careful of him
lying
> > and
> > > make sure you get a tracking number.
> > >
> > > Will keep you posted.
> > >
> > > -Rick
> > >
> > >
> > > "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > So far is okay... I paid for it immediately, wednesday night and it
> was
> > > > shipped out friday... I should have it monday / tuesday. Shipping
was
> 20
> > > > buck.
> > > >
> > > > Ill keep ya posted.
> > > >
> > > > -Rick
> > > >
> > > > "Kelly" > wrote in message
> > > > news:ASy%b.626130$ts4.43428@pd7tw3no...
> > > > > No, I was going to ask you how the transaction went before I
bought
> > one
> > > ;)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Kelly,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I believe it is the same guy. I found he has an online store
too,
> > > > > > http://www.insidesun.com/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hope you don't have bad things to say. :-$ His rating was very
> > > decent.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Rick
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Richard Ryerson
March 5th 04, 01:55 PM
My only problem was he blatenly lied about it..

I am happy with the product, just make sure you are on top of him each step
of the way if you do buy. I wasnt the only one to complain about the
shipping on him.

-Rick

"Darrin O'Bryan" > wrote in message
. ..
> Glad to hear you finally received it. I've been following along as I was
> thinking about buying one of these setups too. Does the ballast make
any
> noise?
>
> On his website he charges $35.00 for an upgrade to a 10K bulb, but 10K
bulb
> is included in his eBay auction, probably should be the other way around.
> I've read that a lot of the eBay Power Sellers are notorious for being
some
> of the slowest shippers. Many of them sell faster than they can ship,
even
> though he now has a message on his website acknowledging his slow
shipping.
>
> Regards,
> Darrin
>
> "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I finally received it!!
> >
> > Very large box due to the size of the 18" reflector.
> >
> > Everything is present and accounted for, but I can't tell if the bulb is
a
> > 10K or not. I am inclined to believe it is since that is what was
written
> on
> > the outside of the shipping container and the color it produces has a
nice
> > blue to it.
> >
> > It runs very hot... oh my goodness does it... Ballast doesn't seem to
much
> > though.
> >
> > I am very upset however as to the service this guy gave. He did nothing
> but
> > lie during the whole shipping process. First lied about the shipging it
> and
> > then lied about next day service to make up for the first lie.
> >
> > -Rick
> >
> >
> > "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Well here it is, Tuesday night and no light. I contacted the seller
and
> he
> > > says it was shipped TONIGHT!!! Man am I ****ed!!!
> > >
> > > This guy took payment wednesday, said he'd get right on shipping it.
> Okay
> > > fine sounds good.
> > >
> > > Friday rolls around and he hasnt given me any shipping info. Hmmmm....
I
> > > contact him and he assures me he shipped it earlier friday. Okay this
is
> > > cool I can understand this... Just getting hard to manage...
> > >
> > > Tonight, no light :((...
> > >
> > > I contact him and he has this cavaleer attitude about the whole
thing...
> > > Tells me that he just shipped it and it will be here tomorrow.
> > >
> > > I made him give me the tracking number and UPS does have "some"
shipment
> > > under that # to my town. BUT!!! It is shipped UPS ground. No freaking
> way
> > > it's getting here tomorrow, as promised.
> > >
> > > If you plan on buying from this guy, so far just be careful of him
lying
> > and
> > > make sure you get a tracking number.
> > >
> > > Will keep you posted.
> > >
> > > -Rick
> > >
> > >
> > > "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > So far is okay... I paid for it immediately, wednesday night and it
> was
> > > > shipped out friday... I should have it monday / tuesday. Shipping
was
> 20
> > > > buck.
> > > >
> > > > Ill keep ya posted.
> > > >
> > > > -Rick
> > > >
> > > > "Kelly" > wrote in message
> > > > news:ASy%b.626130$ts4.43428@pd7tw3no...
> > > > > No, I was going to ask you how the transaction went before I
bought
> > one
> > > ;)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Kelly,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I believe it is the same guy. I found he has an online store
too,
> > > > > > http://www.insidesun.com/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hope you don't have bad things to say. :-$ His rating was very
> > > decent.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Rick
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Darrin O'Bryan
March 5th 04, 02:08 PM
Thanks for the info. I still can't decide on buying this guys setup or
not. On his auction he doesn't tell what brand name anything is, makes it
kind of sound suspicious. With that suspicion plus the constant runaround
he gave you, I don't know if he's worth the risk. I guess there is that
crap shoot with eBay though, lower price vs. lower customer service.

I've had bad luck with every item I bought on eBay over $35.00. Bought a
computer for $250 and got a runaround like you got with this guy, shipped
it 3 weeks after he told me he did. Terrible experience and been gun shy
ever since.

Regards,
Darrin



"Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
...
> My only problem was he blatenly lied about it..
>
> I am happy with the product, just make sure you are on top of him each
step
> of the way if you do buy. I wasnt the only one to complain about the
> shipping on him.
>
> -Rick
>
> "Darrin O'Bryan" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > Glad to hear you finally received it. I've been following along as I
was
> > thinking about buying one of these setups too. Does the ballast make
> any
> > noise?
> >
> > On his website he charges $35.00 for an upgrade to a 10K bulb, but 10K
> bulb
> > is included in his eBay auction, probably should be the other way
around.
> > I've read that a lot of the eBay Power Sellers are notorious for being
> some
> > of the slowest shippers. Many of them sell faster than they can ship,
> even
> > though he now has a message on his website acknowledging his slow
> shipping.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Darrin
> >
> > "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I finally received it!!
> > >
> > > Very large box due to the size of the 18" reflector.
> > >
> > > Everything is present and accounted for, but I can't tell if the bulb
is
> a
> > > 10K or not. I am inclined to believe it is since that is what was
> written
> > on
> > > the outside of the shipping container and the color it produces has a
> nice
> > > blue to it.
> > >
> > > It runs very hot... oh my goodness does it... Ballast doesn't seem to
> much
> > > though.
> > >
> > > I am very upset however as to the service this guy gave. He did
nothing
> > but
> > > lie during the whole shipping process. First lied about the shipging
it
> > and
> > > then lied about next day service to make up for the first lie.
> > >
> > > -Rick
> > >
> > >
> > > "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Well here it is, Tuesday night and no light. I contacted the seller
> and
> > he
> > > > says it was shipped TONIGHT!!! Man am I ****ed!!!
> > > >
> > > > This guy took payment wednesday, said he'd get right on shipping it.
> > Okay
> > > > fine sounds good.
> > > >
> > > > Friday rolls around and he hasnt given me any shipping info.
Hmmmm....
> I
> > > > contact him and he assures me he shipped it earlier friday. Okay
this
> is
> > > > cool I can understand this... Just getting hard to manage...
> > > >
> > > > Tonight, no light :((...
> > > >
> > > > I contact him and he has this cavaleer attitude about the whole
> thing...
> > > > Tells me that he just shipped it and it will be here tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > I made him give me the tracking number and UPS does have "some"
> shipment
> > > > under that # to my town. BUT!!! It is shipped UPS ground. No
freaking
> > way
> > > > it's getting here tomorrow, as promised.
> > > >
> > > > If you plan on buying from this guy, so far just be careful of him
> lying
> > > and
> > > > make sure you get a tracking number.
> > > >
> > > > Will keep you posted.
> > > >
> > > > -Rick
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > So far is okay... I paid for it immediately, wednesday night and
it
> > was
> > > > > shipped out friday... I should have it monday / tuesday. Shipping
> was
> > 20
> > > > > buck.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ill keep ya posted.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Rick
> > > > >
> > > > > "Kelly" > wrote in message
> > > > > news:ASy%b.626130$ts4.43428@pd7tw3no...
> > > > > > No, I was going to ask you how the transaction went before I
> bought
> > > one
> > > > ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kelly,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I believe it is the same guy. I found he has an online store
> too,
> > > > > > > http://www.insidesun.com/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I hope you don't have bad things to say. :-$ His rating was
very
> > > > decent.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Rick
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Kelly
March 5th 04, 07:24 PM
I was about to buy from this seller but it turns out I can get the same
stuff from one of my LFS for $130 CDN all I would need is the bulb which is
about the price of the shipping anyways.
Thanks for the info Richard, probably saved me some frustration and money :)

Kelly

"Darrin O'Bryan" > wrote in message
. ..
> Thanks for the info. I still can't decide on buying this guys setup or
> not. On his auction he doesn't tell what brand name anything is, makes
it
> kind of sound suspicious. With that suspicion plus the constant
runaround
> he gave you, I don't know if he's worth the risk. I guess there is
that
> crap shoot with eBay though, lower price vs. lower customer service.
>
> I've had bad luck with every item I bought on eBay over $35.00. Bought
a
> computer for $250 and got a runaround like you got with this guy, shipped
> it 3 weeks after he told me he did. Terrible experience and been gun shy
> ever since.
>
> Regards,
> Darrin
>
>
>
> "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > My only problem was he blatenly lied about it..
> >
> > I am happy with the product, just make sure you are on top of him each
> step
> > of the way if you do buy. I wasnt the only one to complain about the
> > shipping on him.
> >
> > -Rick
> >
> > "Darrin O'Bryan" > wrote in message
> > . ..
> > > Glad to hear you finally received it. I've been following along as I
> was
> > > thinking about buying one of these setups too. Does the ballast
make
> > any
> > > noise?
> > >
> > > On his website he charges $35.00 for an upgrade to a 10K bulb, but 10K
> > bulb
> > > is included in his eBay auction, probably should be the other way
> around.
> > > I've read that a lot of the eBay Power Sellers are notorious for being
> > some
> > > of the slowest shippers. Many of them sell faster than they can
ship,
> > even
> > > though he now has a message on his website acknowledging his slow
> > shipping.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Darrin
> > >
> > > "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I finally received it!!
> > > >
> > > > Very large box due to the size of the 18" reflector.
> > > >
> > > > Everything is present and accounted for, but I can't tell if the
bulb
> is
> > a
> > > > 10K or not. I am inclined to believe it is since that is what was
> > written
> > > on
> > > > the outside of the shipping container and the color it produces has
a
> > nice
> > > > blue to it.
> > > >
> > > > It runs very hot... oh my goodness does it... Ballast doesn't seem
to
> > much
> > > > though.
> > > >
> > > > I am very upset however as to the service this guy gave. He did
> nothing
> > > but
> > > > lie during the whole shipping process. First lied about the shipging
> it
> > > and
> > > > then lied about next day service to make up for the first lie.
> > > >
> > > > -Rick
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Well here it is, Tuesday night and no light. I contacted the
seller
> > and
> > > he
> > > > > says it was shipped TONIGHT!!! Man am I ****ed!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > This guy took payment wednesday, said he'd get right on shipping
it.
> > > Okay
> > > > > fine sounds good.
> > > > >
> > > > > Friday rolls around and he hasnt given me any shipping info.
> Hmmmm....
> > I
> > > > > contact him and he assures me he shipped it earlier friday. Okay
> this
> > is
> > > > > cool I can understand this... Just getting hard to manage...
> > > > >
> > > > > Tonight, no light :((...
> > > > >
> > > > > I contact him and he has this cavaleer attitude about the whole
> > thing...
> > > > > Tells me that he just shipped it and it will be here tomorrow.
> > > > >
> > > > > I made him give me the tracking number and UPS does have "some"
> > shipment
> > > > > under that # to my town. BUT!!! It is shipped UPS ground. No
> freaking
> > > way
> > > > > it's getting here tomorrow, as promised.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you plan on buying from this guy, so far just be careful of him
> > lying
> > > > and
> > > > > make sure you get a tracking number.
> > > > >
> > > > > Will keep you posted.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Rick
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > So far is okay... I paid for it immediately, wednesday night and
> it
> > > was
> > > > > > shipped out friday... I should have it monday / tuesday.
Shipping
> > was
> > > 20
> > > > > > buck.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ill keep ya posted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Rick
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Kelly" > wrote in message
> > > > > > news:ASy%b.626130$ts4.43428@pd7tw3no...
> > > > > > > No, I was going to ask you how the transaction went before I
> > bought
> > > > one
> > > > > ;)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kelly,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I believe it is the same guy. I found he has an online store
> > too,
> > > > > > > > http://www.insidesun.com/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I hope you don't have bad things to say. :-$ His rating was
> very
> > > > > decent.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Rick
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Richard Ryerson
March 8th 04, 07:15 AM
These arent "brand name" lights. I believe its a guy that builds them out of
his workshop. Nothing wrong with that as long as it's quality stuff.

So far, so good on that just a couple things I wish were different.

1. The cord from the ballast to the outlet is only 3.5 feet long. Wish it
was at least 6.
2. There is no "on off" switch. Not a big deal, I am running a timer but, I
would like to be able to turn it off with a switch when i want to do
something.

I can totally understand being gun shy. I got other purchases, a 6 stage
RO/DI unit, blue zoo, yellow zoo, coming. After this guy I am all over them
like white on rice. But they are keeping me informed about the shipment
shipping tomorrow. We will see. :)

In the past 6 months, the guy with the lights has gotten 7 bad responses.
All of which are due to shipping issues. On the other side, that is only 2
percent of his feedback total. The others are praises.

If you can deal with the run around, the light is not bad at all.

Rick

"Darrin O'Bryan" > wrote in message
. ..
> Thanks for the info. I still can't decide on buying this guys setup or
> not. On his auction he doesn't tell what brand name anything is, makes
it
> kind of sound suspicious. With that suspicion plus the constant
runaround
> he gave you, I don't know if he's worth the risk. I guess there is
that
> crap shoot with eBay though, lower price vs. lower customer service.
>
> I've had bad luck with every item I bought on eBay over $35.00. Bought
a
> computer for $250 and got a runaround like you got with this guy, shipped
> it 3 weeks after he told me he did. Terrible experience and been gun shy
> ever since.
>
> Regards,
> Darrin
>
>
>
> "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > My only problem was he blatenly lied about it..
> >
> > I am happy with the product, just make sure you are on top of him each
> step
> > of the way if you do buy. I wasnt the only one to complain about the
> > shipping on him.
> >
> > -Rick
> >
> > "Darrin O'Bryan" > wrote in message
> > . ..
> > > Glad to hear you finally received it. I've been following along as I
> was
> > > thinking about buying one of these setups too. Does the ballast
make
> > any
> > > noise?
> > >
> > > On his website he charges $35.00 for an upgrade to a 10K bulb, but 10K
> > bulb
> > > is included in his eBay auction, probably should be the other way
> around.
> > > I've read that a lot of the eBay Power Sellers are notorious for being
> > some
> > > of the slowest shippers. Many of them sell faster than they can
ship,
> > even
> > > though he now has a message on his website acknowledging his slow
> > shipping.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Darrin
> > >
> > > "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I finally received it!!
> > > >
> > > > Very large box due to the size of the 18" reflector.
> > > >
> > > > Everything is present and accounted for, but I can't tell if the
bulb
> is
> > a
> > > > 10K or not. I am inclined to believe it is since that is what was
> > written
> > > on
> > > > the outside of the shipping container and the color it produces has
a
> > nice
> > > > blue to it.
> > > >
> > > > It runs very hot... oh my goodness does it... Ballast doesn't seem
to
> > much
> > > > though.
> > > >
> > > > I am very upset however as to the service this guy gave. He did
> nothing
> > > but
> > > > lie during the whole shipping process. First lied about the shipging
> it
> > > and
> > > > then lied about next day service to make up for the first lie.
> > > >
> > > > -Rick
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Well here it is, Tuesday night and no light. I contacted the
seller
> > and
> > > he
> > > > > says it was shipped TONIGHT!!! Man am I ****ed!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > This guy took payment wednesday, said he'd get right on shipping
it.
> > > Okay
> > > > > fine sounds good.
> > > > >
> > > > > Friday rolls around and he hasnt given me any shipping info.
> Hmmmm....
> > I
> > > > > contact him and he assures me he shipped it earlier friday. Okay
> this
> > is
> > > > > cool I can understand this... Just getting hard to manage...
> > > > >
> > > > > Tonight, no light :((...
> > > > >
> > > > > I contact him and he has this cavaleer attitude about the whole
> > thing...
> > > > > Tells me that he just shipped it and it will be here tomorrow.
> > > > >
> > > > > I made him give me the tracking number and UPS does have "some"
> > shipment
> > > > > under that # to my town. BUT!!! It is shipped UPS ground. No
> freaking
> > > way
> > > > > it's getting here tomorrow, as promised.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you plan on buying from this guy, so far just be careful of him
> > lying
> > > > and
> > > > > make sure you get a tracking number.
> > > > >
> > > > > Will keep you posted.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Rick
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > So far is okay... I paid for it immediately, wednesday night and
> it
> > > was
> > > > > > shipped out friday... I should have it monday / tuesday.
Shipping
> > was
> > > 20
> > > > > > buck.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ill keep ya posted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Rick
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Kelly" > wrote in message
> > > > > > news:ASy%b.626130$ts4.43428@pd7tw3no...
> > > > > > > No, I was going to ask you how the transaction went before I
> > bought
> > > > one
> > > > > ;)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kelly,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I believe it is the same guy. I found he has an online store
> > too,
> > > > > > > > http://www.insidesun.com/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I hope you don't have bad things to say. :-$ His rating was
> very
> > > > > decent.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Rick
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Richard Ryerson
March 8th 04, 07:17 AM
Great Kelly!!!

I am all for supporting local business. If I could have gotten the deal at
the LFS, I would have.

You are gonna have to snap some pics of your tank and show them... :)

-Rick

"Kelly" > wrote in message
news:pt42c.709558$X%5.309032@pd7tw2no...
> I was about to buy from this seller but it turns out I can get the same
> stuff from one of my LFS for $130 CDN all I would need is the bulb which
is
> about the price of the shipping anyways.
> Thanks for the info Richard, probably saved me some frustration and money
:)
>
> Kelly
>
> "Darrin O'Bryan" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > Thanks for the info. I still can't decide on buying this guys setup
or
> > not. On his auction he doesn't tell what brand name anything is,
makes
> it
> > kind of sound suspicious. With that suspicion plus the constant
> runaround
> > he gave you, I don't know if he's worth the risk. I guess there is
> that
> > crap shoot with eBay though, lower price vs. lower customer service.
> >
> > I've had bad luck with every item I bought on eBay over $35.00.
Bought
> a
> > computer for $250 and got a runaround like you got with this guy,
shipped
> > it 3 weeks after he told me he did. Terrible experience and been gun
shy
> > ever since.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Darrin
> >
> >
> >
> > "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > My only problem was he blatenly lied about it..
> > >
> > > I am happy with the product, just make sure you are on top of him each
> > step
> > > of the way if you do buy. I wasnt the only one to complain about the
> > > shipping on him.
> > >
> > > -Rick
> > >
> > > "Darrin O'Bryan" > wrote in message
> > > . ..
> > > > Glad to hear you finally received it. I've been following along as
I
> > was
> > > > thinking about buying one of these setups too. Does the ballast
> make
> > > any
> > > > noise?
> > > >
> > > > On his website he charges $35.00 for an upgrade to a 10K bulb, but
10K
> > > bulb
> > > > is included in his eBay auction, probably should be the other way
> > around.
> > > > I've read that a lot of the eBay Power Sellers are notorious for
being
> > > some
> > > > of the slowest shippers. Many of them sell faster than they can
> ship,
> > > even
> > > > though he now has a message on his website acknowledging his slow
> > > shipping.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Darrin
> > > >
> > > > "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > I finally received it!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Very large box due to the size of the 18" reflector.
> > > > >
> > > > > Everything is present and accounted for, but I can't tell if the
> bulb
> > is
> > > a
> > > > > 10K or not. I am inclined to believe it is since that is what was
> > > written
> > > > on
> > > > > the outside of the shipping container and the color it produces
has
> a
> > > nice
> > > > > blue to it.
> > > > >
> > > > > It runs very hot... oh my goodness does it... Ballast doesn't seem
> to
> > > much
> > > > > though.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am very upset however as to the service this guy gave. He did
> > nothing
> > > > but
> > > > > lie during the whole shipping process. First lied about the
shipging
> > it
> > > > and
> > > > > then lied about next day service to make up for the first lie.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Rick
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Well here it is, Tuesday night and no light. I contacted the
> seller
> > > and
> > > > he
> > > > > > says it was shipped TONIGHT!!! Man am I ****ed!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This guy took payment wednesday, said he'd get right on shipping
> it.
> > > > Okay
> > > > > > fine sounds good.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Friday rolls around and he hasnt given me any shipping info.
> > Hmmmm....
> > > I
> > > > > > contact him and he assures me he shipped it earlier friday. Okay
> > this
> > > is
> > > > > > cool I can understand this... Just getting hard to manage...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tonight, no light :((...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I contact him and he has this cavaleer attitude about the whole
> > > thing...
> > > > > > Tells me that he just shipped it and it will be here tomorrow.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I made him give me the tracking number and UPS does have "some"
> > > shipment
> > > > > > under that # to my town. BUT!!! It is shipped UPS ground. No
> > freaking
> > > > way
> > > > > > it's getting here tomorrow, as promised.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you plan on buying from this guy, so far just be careful of
him
> > > lying
> > > > > and
> > > > > > make sure you get a tracking number.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Will keep you posted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Rick
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > So far is okay... I paid for it immediately, wednesday night
and
> > it
> > > > was
> > > > > > > shipped out friday... I should have it monday / tuesday.
> Shipping
> > > was
> > > > 20
> > > > > > > buck.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ill keep ya posted.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Rick
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Kelly" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:ASy%b.626130$ts4.43428@pd7tw3no...
> > > > > > > > No, I was going to ask you how the transaction went before I
> > > bought
> > > > > one
> > > > > > ;)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Kelly,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I believe it is the same guy. I found he has an online
store
> > > too,
> > > > > > > > > http://www.insidesun.com/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I hope you don't have bad things to say. :-$ His rating
was
> > very
> > > > > > decent.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -Rick
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Kelly
March 8th 04, 07:31 AM
So to turn it off you have to unplug?
"Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
...
> These arent "brand name" lights. I believe its a guy that builds them out
of
> his workshop. Nothing wrong with that as long as it's quality stuff.
>
> So far, so good on that just a couple things I wish were different.
>
> 1. The cord from the ballast to the outlet is only 3.5 feet long. Wish it
> was at least 6.
> 2. There is no "on off" switch. Not a big deal, I am running a timer but,
I
> would like to be able to turn it off with a switch when i want to do
> something.
>
> I can totally understand being gun shy. I got other purchases, a 6 stage
> RO/DI unit, blue zoo, yellow zoo, coming. After this guy I am all over
them
> like white on rice. But they are keeping me informed about the shipment
> shipping tomorrow. We will see. :)
>
> In the past 6 months, the guy with the lights has gotten 7 bad responses.
> All of which are due to shipping issues. On the other side, that is only 2
> percent of his feedback total. The others are praises.
>
> If you can deal with the run around, the light is not bad at all.
>
> Rick
>
> "Darrin O'Bryan" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > Thanks for the info. I still can't decide on buying this guys setup
or
> > not. On his auction he doesn't tell what brand name anything is,
makes
> it
> > kind of sound suspicious. With that suspicion plus the constant
> runaround
> > he gave you, I don't know if he's worth the risk. I guess there is
> that
> > crap shoot with eBay though, lower price vs. lower customer service.
> >
> > I've had bad luck with every item I bought on eBay over $35.00.
Bought
> a
> > computer for $250 and got a runaround like you got with this guy,
shipped
> > it 3 weeks after he told me he did. Terrible experience and been gun
shy
> > ever since.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Darrin
> >
> >
> >
> > "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > My only problem was he blatenly lied about it..
> > >
> > > I am happy with the product, just make sure you are on top of him each
> > step
> > > of the way if you do buy. I wasnt the only one to complain about the
> > > shipping on him.
> > >
> > > -Rick
> > >
> > > "Darrin O'Bryan" > wrote in message
> > > . ..
> > > > Glad to hear you finally received it. I've been following along as
I
> > was
> > > > thinking about buying one of these setups too. Does the ballast
> make
> > > any
> > > > noise?
> > > >
> > > > On his website he charges $35.00 for an upgrade to a 10K bulb, but
10K
> > > bulb
> > > > is included in his eBay auction, probably should be the other way
> > around.
> > > > I've read that a lot of the eBay Power Sellers are notorious for
being
> > > some
> > > > of the slowest shippers. Many of them sell faster than they can
> ship,
> > > even
> > > > though he now has a message on his website acknowledging his slow
> > > shipping.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Darrin
> > > >
> > > > "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > I finally received it!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Very large box due to the size of the 18" reflector.
> > > > >
> > > > > Everything is present and accounted for, but I can't tell if the
> bulb
> > is
> > > a
> > > > > 10K or not. I am inclined to believe it is since that is what was
> > > written
> > > > on
> > > > > the outside of the shipping container and the color it produces
has
> a
> > > nice
> > > > > blue to it.
> > > > >
> > > > > It runs very hot... oh my goodness does it... Ballast doesn't seem
> to
> > > much
> > > > > though.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am very upset however as to the service this guy gave. He did
> > nothing
> > > > but
> > > > > lie during the whole shipping process. First lied about the
shipging
> > it
> > > > and
> > > > > then lied about next day service to make up for the first lie.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Rick
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Well here it is, Tuesday night and no light. I contacted the
> seller
> > > and
> > > > he
> > > > > > says it was shipped TONIGHT!!! Man am I ****ed!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This guy took payment wednesday, said he'd get right on shipping
> it.
> > > > Okay
> > > > > > fine sounds good.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Friday rolls around and he hasnt given me any shipping info.
> > Hmmmm....
> > > I
> > > > > > contact him and he assures me he shipped it earlier friday. Okay
> > this
> > > is
> > > > > > cool I can understand this... Just getting hard to manage...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tonight, no light :((...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I contact him and he has this cavaleer attitude about the whole
> > > thing...
> > > > > > Tells me that he just shipped it and it will be here tomorrow.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I made him give me the tracking number and UPS does have "some"
> > > shipment
> > > > > > under that # to my town. BUT!!! It is shipped UPS ground. No
> > freaking
> > > > way
> > > > > > it's getting here tomorrow, as promised.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you plan on buying from this guy, so far just be careful of
him
> > > lying
> > > > > and
> > > > > > make sure you get a tracking number.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Will keep you posted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Rick
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Richard Ryerson" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > So far is okay... I paid for it immediately, wednesday night
and
> > it
> > > > was
> > > > > > > shipped out friday... I should have it monday / tuesday.
> Shipping
> > > was
> > > > 20
> > > > > > > buck.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ill keep ya posted.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Rick
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Kelly" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:ASy%b.626130$ts4.43428@pd7tw3no...
> > > > > > > > No, I was going to ask you how the transaction went before I
> > > bought
> > > > > one
> > > > > > ;)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Kelly,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I believe it is the same guy. I found he has an online
store
> > > too,
> > > > > > > > > http://www.insidesun.com/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I hope you don't have bad things to say. :-$ His rating
was
> > very
> > > > > > decent.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -Rick
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Richard Ryerson
March 8th 04, 03:02 PM
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 07:31:43 GMT, Kelly wrote:

> So to turn it off you have to unplug?

Yes... My timer cuts the power totally from my light powerstrip in which
the MH is plugged into.

Other than that, I have to pull the plug from the strip to shut it off.

-Rick


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