setting up a new 135 gallon reef tank

[jonus grumby]

I'm setting up a 135 gallon reef tank. I get the tank from a friend
and it is not set up for a sump. Oceanic recommends agains drilling it
as well. I had planned to set it up with a plenum as I have read many
good things about them. Is there a better way to go?

[Wayne Sallee]

Yea, a deep sand bed instead of a plentium.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



jonus grumby wrote on 2/13/2006 12:53 PM:
> I'm setting up a 135 gallon reef tank. I get the tank from a friend
> and it is not set up for a sump. Oceanic recommends agains drilling it
> as well. I had planned to set it up with a plenum as I have read many
> good things about them. Is there a better way to go?
>

[TheRock]

I went with the Deep Sand Bed the plentium sounded to complicated
and a bit unbelievable.

Of course what do I know I've been using a canister filter up until 2 months
ago.
Get yourself lots of rock, lots of sand , a good protein skimmer
and a reverse daylight refugium setup. Works great.

No need to drill the tank, go on eBay and get a overflow box.
Here is the one I use...it works great
http://www.aquacrylics.com/new_acrylic_overflow_box_and_ski.htm

Chris



"jonus grumby" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> I'm setting up a 135 gallon reef tank. I get the tank from a friend
> and it is not set up for a sump. Oceanic recommends agains drilling it
> as well. I had planned to set it up with a plenum as I have read many
> good things about them. Is there a better way to go?
>

[Samwyse]

TheRock wrote:

> No need to drill the tank, go on eBay and get a overflow box.
> Here is the one I use...it works great
> http://www.aquacrylics.com/new_acrylic_overflow_box_and_ski.htm

That looks nice. My overflow's syphon is a squarish smoked acrylic tube
that I need to suck the air from every couple of weeks. I'd been
thinking about replacing it with a clear plastic tube like the one
shown. Does air accumulate in these as well?

I've also thought about using two tubes. That way, I can pull and clean
one without having to shut down the pump.

[TheRock]

"Samwyse" > wrote in message
. com...
> TheRock wrote:
>
>> No need to drill the tank, go on eBay and get a overflow box.
>> Here is the one I use...it works great
>> http://www.aquacrylics.com/new_acrylic_overflow_box_and_ski.htm
>
> That looks nice. My overflow's syphon is a squarish smoked acrylic tube
> that I need to suck the air from every couple of weeks. I'd been thinking
> about replacing it with a clear plastic tube like the one shown. Does air
> accumulate in these as well?
>
> I've also thought about using two tubes. That way, I can pull and clean
> one without having to shut down the pump.


It is a nice overflow, it works great and once the air is sucked out of the
tube
it doesn't re-enter. It's baffled on either side so the ends are always
buried in water.
I can shut it down and it starts back up every time. I thought the 2 tubes
would be nice
for redundancy. Clean it or if something gets stuck in one. maybe someday.
Continuous Siphon Overflow I believe are the ones that have the air and
restart problems.

Mine has been running for a few months now and it looks cleans as the day I
got it.

There is one on eBay now

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Wet-Dry-700gph-Overflow-Box-for-Sal****er-Aquarium_W0QQitemZ7744189772QQcategoryZ46310QQssPa geNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Wayne Sallee]

Actualy a better design is to skip the baffel, and just
have the pvc drain come up to the desired hight. This
gives you more room to work with, ie if you want a second
U tube, and it alows you to controle the hight of the
water in the box, by the lenth of the pvc pipe you place
in the drain pipe.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



TheRock wrote on 2/13/2006 8:45 PM:
> "Samwyse" > wrote in message
> . com...
>
>>TheRock wrote:
>>
>>
>>>No need to drill the tank, go on eBay and get a overflow box.
>>>Here is the one I use...it works great
>>>http://www.aquacrylics.com/new_acrylic_overflow_box_and_ski.htm
>>
>>That looks nice. My overflow's syphon is a squarish smoked acrylic tube
>>that I need to suck the air from every couple of weeks. I'd been thinking
>>about replacing it with a clear plastic tube like the one shown. Does air
>>accumulate in these as well?
>>
>>I've also thought about using two tubes. That way, I can pull and clean
>>one without having to shut down the pump.
>
>
>
> It is a nice overflow, it works great and once the air is sucked out of the
> tube
> it doesn't re-enter. It's baffled on either side so the ends are always
> buried in water.
> I can shut it down and it starts back up every time. I thought the 2 tubes
> would be nice
> for redundancy. Clean it or if something gets stuck in one. maybe someday.
> Continuous Siphon Overflow I believe are the ones that have the air and
> restart problems.
>
> Mine has been running for a few months now and it looks cleans as the day I
> got it.
>
> There is one on eBay now
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Wet-Dry-700gph-Overflow-Box-for-Sal****er-Aquarium_W0QQitemZ7744189772QQcategoryZ46310QQssPa geNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>
>

[Wayne Sallee]

That's how Pro Clear makes theirs.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Wayne Sallee wrote on 2/14/2006 11:09 AM:
> Actualy a better design is to skip the baffel, and just have the pvc
> drain come up to the desired hight. This gives you more room to work
> with, ie if you want a second U tube, and it alows you to controle the
> hight of the water in the box, by the lenth of the pvc pipe you place in
> the drain pipe.
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>
>
> TheRock wrote on 2/13/2006 8:45 PM:
>
>> "Samwyse" > wrote in message
>> . com...
>>
>>> TheRock wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> No need to drill the tank, go on eBay and get a overflow box.
>>>> Here is the one I use...it works great
>>>> http://www.aquacrylics.com/new_acrylic_overflow_box_and_ski.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> That looks nice. My overflow's syphon is a squarish smoked acrylic
>>> tube that I need to suck the air from every couple of weeks. I'd
>>> been thinking about replacing it with a clear plastic tube like the
>>> one shown. Does air accumulate in these as well?
>>>
>>> I've also thought about using two tubes. That way, I can pull and
>>> clean one without having to shut down the pump.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> It is a nice overflow, it works great and once the air is sucked out
>> of the tube
>> it doesn't re-enter. It's baffled on either side so the ends are
>> always buried in water.
>> I can shut it down and it starts back up every time. I thought the 2
>> tubes would be nice
>> for redundancy. Clean it or if something gets stuck in one. maybe
>> someday.
>> Continuous Siphon Overflow I believe are the ones that have the air
>> and restart problems.
>>
>> Mine has been running for a few months now and it looks cleans as the
>> day I got it.
>>
>> There is one on eBay now
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Wet-Dry-700gph-Overflow-Box-for-Sal****er-Aquarium_W0QQitemZ7744189772QQcategoryZ46310QQssPa geNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>>
>>
>>

[TheRock]

Makes sense...I've seen one like that on http://www.melevsreef.com/
However, he's got the Continuous Siphon Overflow...no tubes



"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
> That's how Pro Clear makes theirs.
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>
>
> Wayne Sallee wrote on 2/14/2006 11:09 AM:
>> Actualy a better design is to skip the baffel, and just have the pvc
>> drain come up to the desired hight. This gives you more room to work
>> with, ie if you want a second U tube, and it alows you to controle the
>> hight of the water in the box, by the lenth of the pvc pipe you place in
>> the drain pipe.
>>
>> Wayne Sallee
>> Wayne's Pets
>>
>>
>>
>> TheRock wrote on 2/13/2006 8:45 PM:
>>
>>> "Samwyse" > wrote in message
>>> . com...
>>>
>>>> TheRock wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> No need to drill the tank, go on eBay and get a overflow box.
>>>>> Here is the one I use...it works great
>>>>> http://www.aquacrylics.com/new_acrylic_overflow_box_and_ski.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That looks nice. My overflow's syphon is a squarish smoked acrylic
>>>> tube that I need to suck the air from every couple of weeks. I'd been
>>>> thinking about replacing it with a clear plastic tube like the one
>>>> shown. Does air accumulate in these as well?
>>>>
>>>> I've also thought about using two tubes. That way, I can pull and
>>>> clean one without having to shut down the pump.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It is a nice overflow, it works great and once the air is sucked out of
>>> the tube
>>> it doesn't re-enter. It's baffled on either side so the ends are always
>>> buried in water.
>>> I can shut it down and it starts back up every time. I thought the 2
>>> tubes would be nice
>>> for redundancy. Clean it or if something gets stuck in one. maybe
>>> someday.
>>> Continuous Siphon Overflow I believe are the ones that have the air and
>>> restart problems.
>>>
>>> Mine has been running for a few months now and it looks cleans as the
>>> day I got it.
>>>
>>> There is one on eBay now
>>>
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Wet-Dry-700gph-Overflow-Box-for-Sal****er-Aquarium_W0QQitemZ7744189772QQcategoryZ46310QQssPa geNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>>
>>>
>>>