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F.D.S.
April 3rd 04, 02:34 AM
Hi all! I just setup my sal****er tank March 31st. It is a 55 gal tank with
30 lbs of live rock and 40 lbs of live sand. Filtration for now is handled
by 1 Penguin 330 Power filter with bio wheel and 1 Whisper 60 Power filter.
The protein skimmer is a Jebo 180 Hang on Tank model. The skimmer is
shooting a lot of very small bubbles into the tank. Is this normal? Should I
wait for the skimmer to break in, so to speak? Anybody have any experience
with the Jebo? TIA.
Fernan

tech27
April 3rd 04, 02:56 AM
That is very bad. It should not do that. I don't know how you can fix it
with your setup, but people with a refugium have the skimmer return the
water to a section of the refugium in which the water flows under a divider,
so no bubbles ever make it to the tank.

"F.D.S." > wrote in message
...
> Hi all! I just setup my sal****er tank March 31st. It is a 55 gal tank
with
> 30 lbs of live rock and 40 lbs of live sand. Filtration for now is handled
> by 1 Penguin 330 Power filter with bio wheel and 1 Whisper 60 Power
filter.
> The protein skimmer is a Jebo 180 Hang on Tank model. The skimmer is
> shooting a lot of very small bubbles into the tank. Is this normal? Should
I
> wait for the skimmer to break in, so to speak? Anybody have any experience
> with the Jebo? TIA.
> Fernan
>
>

F.D.S.
April 3rd 04, 03:08 AM
will this harm the tank inhabitants? tia.

"tech27" > wrote in message
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> That is very bad. It should not do that. I don't know how you can fix it
> with your setup, but people with a refugium have the skimmer return the
> water to a section of the refugium in which the water flows under a
divider,
> so no bubbles ever make it to the tank.
>
> "F.D.S." > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi all! I just setup my sal****er tank March 31st. It is a 55 gal tank
> with
> > 30 lbs of live rock and 40 lbs of live sand. Filtration for now is
handled
> > by 1 Penguin 330 Power filter with bio wheel and 1 Whisper 60 Power
> filter.
> > The protein skimmer is a Jebo 180 Hang on Tank model. The skimmer is
> > shooting a lot of very small bubbles into the tank. Is this normal?
Should
> I
> > wait for the skimmer to break in, so to speak? Anybody have any
experience
> > with the Jebo? TIA.
> > Fernan
> >
> >
>
>

Dinky
April 3rd 04, 03:53 AM
"tech27" > wrote in message
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| That is very bad. It should not do that. I don't know how you can
fix it
| with your setup, but people with a refugium have the skimmer return
the
| water to a section of the refugium in which the water flows under a
divider,
| so no bubbles ever make it to the tank.
|

Disagree, at least with a brand new unit. My H O T skimmer did the
same thing, and I spoke with Customer service. The very nice lady
told me that this is normal in some cases. Adjust the skimmer as
needed, and don't touch it again. After a max of 2 weeks the bubbles
will go away, and the skimmer will skim. She was right. It's a Prizm
(yeah, shush, it's working quite well<g>,) so I set it so the wet
foam was just below the tower hole. After 5 days of not mucking about
with it, the bubbles in the tank went away, it began producing dry
foam, and I get copious amounts of disgusting mattter to dump out.
The fish weren't bothered by the bubbles in slightest, best I could
tell, nor did they seem to mourn thier departure.
Worst case, contact Customer Service at Jebo via phone or email.
Dollars to DSB they'll tell you the same thing.

billy

tech27
April 3rd 04, 03:57 AM
>
> Disagree, at least with a brand new unit.>

Good point, but I wasn't talking about the break-in or setup of skimmers,
only that bubbles are bad.

Dinky
April 3rd 04, 04:23 AM
"tech27" > wrote in message
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| >
|
| Good point, but I wasn't talking about the break-in or setup of
skimmers,
| only that bubbles are bad.


Okay, fair nuff. In what way are the bubbles harmful? A couple ppl on
RC told me it shouldn't be a problem, wouldn't bother the fish.
Admittedly, at the time, the tank was nothing more than LR and a
couple chromis.

billy

Richard Reynolds
April 3rd 04, 05:39 AM
> | only that bubbles are bad.
>
> Okay, fair nuff. In what way are the bubbles harmful?

bubbles are NOT generally bad

there apearance is a different story as some like them others dont.

there are only a few things reefers put into there tanks that are harmed in any way by
bubbles. and then it takes a lot of bubbles. things to watch out for are deep water
inverts, thats just about it.


--
Richard Reynolds

GamePlayer No. 1058
April 3rd 04, 03:04 PM
The two skimmers I have (Seaclone 100, and Via Aqua multiskimmer) both shot
tiny bubbles into the tank for the first couple days, then they quit doing
that. The seaclone will do it now only in certain circumstances, but since
it hasnt happened in a couple days now I dont recall what made it do it.
(but at the time I was kind of amazed and thought, oh, so doing this, makes
the skimmer put bubbles into the tank).

In any event, I think all hang on tank skimmers will do this during break in
period. Some people minimize it by adding a bit of foam to where the water
returns to the tank, but I dont know about how to do that with a Jebo 180.


"F.D.S." > wrote in message
...
> Hi all! I just setup my sal****er tank March 31st. It is a 55 gal tank
with
> 30 lbs of live rock and 40 lbs of live sand. Filtration for now is handled
> by 1 Penguin 330 Power filter with bio wheel and 1 Whisper 60 Power
filter.
> The protein skimmer is a Jebo 180 Hang on Tank model. The skimmer is
> shooting a lot of very small bubbles into the tank. Is this normal? Should
I
> wait for the skimmer to break in, so to speak? Anybody have any experience
> with the Jebo? TIA.
> Fernan
>
>

Rod
April 3rd 04, 03:24 PM
Bubbles??? look here (n about 1/2 way down th epage)
http://www.asplashoflife.com/onyx_clowns.htm
Rod Buehler
www.asplashoflife.com

Kelly
April 3rd 04, 06:08 PM
If the seaclone shoots bubbles you adjust the air and water mix, maybe the
Jebo is the same?
"Rod" > wrote in message
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> Bubbles??? look here (n about 1/2 way down th epage)
> http://www.asplashoflife.com/onyx_clowns.htm
> Rod Buehler
> www.asplashoflife.com

GamePlayer No. 1058
April 6th 04, 05:11 PM
The seaclone will stop doing it by itself, and constant adjustment of the
air control makes for a unstable seaclone, in that it wont be running
optimally.

Optimally from what I've found, and been told so far, you should do as the
instructions on it state, to turn it all the way open to all the way closed
two times, then open it 1 and 1/2 turn on the air mixture controller.

At first I didnt think this was working right, now it's skimming whenever
there is enough waste in the tank to skim. Like when I did a water change
last night and poured in the new water which really moved around my sandbed,
the skimmer went crazy for about 4 hours, now it's skimming the best it's
skimmed so far, pulling lots of organics out of the tank that were stirred
up by disturbing the sandbed.



"Kelly" > wrote in message news:LcCbc.18569$Ig.3466@pd7tw2no...
> If the seaclone shoots bubbles you adjust the air and water mix, maybe the
> Jebo is the same?
> "Rod" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Bubbles??? look here (n about 1/2 way down th epage)
> > http://www.asplashoflife.com/onyx_clowns.htm
> > Rod Buehler
> > www.asplashoflife.com
>
>