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Hi everyone,

I'm upgrading my sumpless 30 gal to a 58RR and building my own sump.
I'm considering putting my sump in the basement for numerous reasons
but there's one potential reason not to. The only logical place would
be next to the oil furnace and gas hot water heater. When the furnace
kicks on, you can smell heating oil fumes (slightly). Do I need to be
concerned about these fumes making their way into the sump's water,
with it being only four feet away? If so, I'll just use a smaller
sump in the stand upstairs. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Grant

[Wayne Sallee]

Personaly I would not waist my time setting up a sump for
a 30 gallon tank. Wait and get a bigger tank with a built
in overflow.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



wrote on 2/18/2006 12:23 PM:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm upgrading my sumpless 30 gal to a 58RR and building my own sump.
> I'm considering putting my sump in the basement for numerous reasons
> but there's one potential reason not to. The only logical place would
> be next to the oil furnace and gas hot water heater. When the furnace
> kicks on, you can smell heating oil fumes (slightly). Do I need to be
> concerned about these fumes making their way into the sump's water,
> with it being only four feet away? If so, I'll just use a smaller
> sump in the stand upstairs. Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Grant

[kim gross]

wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm upgrading my sumpless 30 gal to a 58RR and building my own sump.
> I'm considering putting my sump in the basement for numerous reasons
> but there's one potential reason not to. The only logical place would
> be next to the oil furnace and gas hot water heater. When the furnace
> kicks on, you can smell heating oil fumes (slightly). Do I need to be
> concerned about these fumes making their way into the sump's water,
> with it being only four feet away? If so, I'll just use a smaller
> sump in the stand upstairs. Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Grant
I would not put a sump in your basement. If you can smell the oil fumes
some of them will get into your water which can not be good for your
tank. So either find another place in the basement away from the oil
furnace or go with the smaller sump in the stand.

Kim

[Pszemol]

"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message ...
> Personaly I would not waist my time setting up a sump for
> a 30 gallon tank. Wait and get a bigger tank with a built
> in overflow.

Wayne - he just wrote he is upgrading to 58 gallons, reef ready.

[Pszemol]

> wrote in message ...
> I'm upgrading my sumpless 30 gal to a 58RR and building my own sump.
> I'm considering putting my sump in the basement for numerous reasons
> but there's one potential reason not to. The only logical place would
> be next to the oil furnace and gas hot water heater. When the furnace
> kicks on, you can smell heating oil fumes (slightly). Do I need to be
> concerned about these fumes making their way into the sump's water,
> with it being only four feet away? If so, I'll just use a smaller
> sump in the stand upstairs. Any help would be appreciated.

I would be quite concerned with these fumes going into your whole house
ventilation system and poisoning you and your family slowly over time...

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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 17:11:47 -0600, "Pszemol" >
wrote:

> wrote in message ...
>> I'm upgrading my sumpless 30 gal to a 58RR and building my own sump.
>> I'm considering putting my sump in the basement for numerous reasons
>> but there's one potential reason not to. The only logical place would
>> be next to the oil furnace and gas hot water heater. When the furnace
>> kicks on, you can smell heating oil fumes (slightly). Do I need to be
>> concerned about these fumes making their way into the sump's water,
>> with it being only four feet away? If so, I'll just use a smaller
>> sump in the stand upstairs. Any help would be appreciated.
>
>I would be quite concerned with these fumes going into your whole house
>ventilation system and poisoning you and your family slowly over time...

Really? I just assumed that smelling a small amount of exhaust was
normal. I'm not that concerned, though. The house is old and so
drafty. Even with the storm windows closed, we get lots of fresh
(arctic) air circulation. I'm more worried about the tank....

Grant

[Pszemol]

> wrote in message ...
>>I would be quite concerned with these fumes going into your whole house
>>ventilation system and poisoning you and your family slowly over time...
>
> Really? I just assumed that smelling a small amount of exhaust was
> normal. I'm not that concerned, though. The house is old and so
> drafty. Even with the storm windows closed, we get lots of fresh
> (arctic) air circulation. I'm more worried about the tank....

The problem is not the smell of the exhaust gases...
You should be thankfull they have some odor.
Fumes contain CO, and CO is totaly devoid of smell but poisonous.
I hope you have got CO detectors in a good working condition...

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On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:27:42 -0600, "Pszemol" >
wrote:

> wrote in message ...
>>>I would be quite concerned with these fumes going into your whole house
>>>ventilation system and poisoning you and your family slowly over time...
>>
>> Really? I just assumed that smelling a small amount of exhaust was
>> normal. I'm not that concerned, though. The house is old and so
>> drafty. Even with the storm windows closed, we get lots of fresh
>> (arctic) air circulation. I'm more worried about the tank....
>
>The problem is not the smell of the exhaust gases...
>You should be thankfull they have some odor.
>Fumes contain CO, and CO is totaly devoid of smell but poisonous.
>I hope you have got CO detectors in a good working condition...

Pszemol,

No, but you've inspired me to go get some...

[William Marsh]

Ok Guys: ANother thought because I thought about a sump in the basement
because of cooling and size, but what kind of pump will pump a 14-15 ft
head? or how would you arrrange it, so that it would work.
Bill
> wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:27:42 -0600, "Pszemol" >
> wrote:
>
> wrote in message
...
>>>>I would be quite concerned with these fumes going into your whole house
>>>>ventilation system and poisoning you and your family slowly over time...
>>>
>>> Really? I just assumed that smelling a small amount of exhaust was
>>> normal. I'm not that concerned, though. The house is old and so
>>> drafty. Even with the storm windows closed, we get lots of fresh
>>> (arctic) air circulation. I'm more worried about the tank....
>>
>>The problem is not the smell of the exhaust gases...
>>You should be thankfull they have some odor.
>>Fumes contain CO, and CO is totaly devoid of smell but poisonous.
>>I hope you have got CO detectors in a good working condition...
>
> Pszemol,
>
> No, but you've inspired me to go get some...

[Pszemol]

"William Marsh" > wrote in message ...
> Ok Guys: ANother thought because I thought about a sump in the basement
> because of cooling and size, but what kind of pump will pump a 14-15 ft
> head? or how would you arrrange it, so that it would work.

Certainly very expensive one ;-)

Check out Iwaki - there is some with two versions: normal and high head.
Here, at DrFosterSmith.com they offer "Little Giant" pump with max head 44':
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=4614&N=2004+113041

[Charles Spitzer]

"Pszemol" > wrote in message
...
> "William Marsh" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Ok Guys: ANother thought because I thought about a sump in the basement
>> because of cooling and size, but what kind of pump will pump a 14-15 ft
>> head? or how would you arrrange it, so that it would work.
>
> Certainly very expensive one ;-)
>
> Check out Iwaki - there is some with two versions: normal and high head.
> Here, at DrFosterSmith.com they offer "Little Giant" pump with max head
> 44':
> http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=4614&N=2004+113041

put your sump on a high shelf so it's closer to the ceiling, which will
reduce your head requirements.

[Pszemol]

"Charles Spitzer" > wrote in message ...
> put your sump on a high shelf so it's closer to the ceiling, which will
> reduce your head requirements.

But you will have to put your sump on the shelf, too.

[Charles Spitzer]

"Pszemol" > wrote in message
...
> "Charles Spitzer" > wrote in message
> ...
>> put your sump on a high shelf so it's closer to the ceiling, which will
>> reduce your head requirements.
>
> But you will have to put your sump on the shelf, too.

huh? isn't that what i said?

[William Marsh]

Thankyou Gentelmen that is a thought that had not entered my mind.
Bill
"Charles Spitzer" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Pszemol" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Charles Spitzer" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> put your sump on a high shelf so it's closer to the ceiling, which will
>>> reduce your head requirements.
>>
>> But you will have to put your sump on the shelf, too.
>
> huh? isn't that what i said?
>
>

[Pszemol]

"Charles Spitzer" > wrote in message ...
> "Pszemol" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Charles Spitzer" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> put your sump on a high shelf so it's closer to the ceiling, which will
>>> reduce your head requirements.
>>
>> But you will have to put your sump on the shelf, too.
>
> huh? isn't that what i said?

Somehow I read you typed "pump on a shelf" :-))))
Sorry - it was before my morning coffee ;-)

[Wayne Sallee]

Oh I missed that. I must get more sleep :-)

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Pszemol wrote on 2/19/2006 6:10 PM:
> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Personaly I would not waist my time setting up a sump for a 30 gallon
>> tank. Wait and get a bigger tank with a built in overflow.
>
>
> Wayne - he just wrote he is upgrading to 58 gallons, reef ready.