Pod Tank

[Yukon]

I just set up a 10 gallon pod tank to increase food supply for a mandarin. Will I have to feed it plankton, or can I just use frozen
food? Also, should I wait for the tank to cycle before I add the macro algae? What kind of macro algae is best? Thanks. Tim

[Qman]

I like that idea, please post a howto once you get it running and producing.
I'm curious if you produce more than you need how it reacts. Also how the
health of the Mandarin is. Perhaps if you overproduce, you can freeze some
for a snack if you were to go on vacation (I'm thinking capture some pods
and freeze in ice cube trays)
Curious idea for sure.



"Yukon" > wrote in message
hlink.net...
> I just set up a 10 gallon pod tank to increase food supply for a mandarin.
Will I have to feed it plankton, or can I just use frozen
> food? Also, should I wait for the tank to cycle before I add the macro
algae? What kind of macro algae is best? Thanks. Tim
>
>

[Marc Levenson]

You are setting up a refugium, Yukon. There is no need to worry about a cycle, because it is an extention of your current setup. Add
the sand, add the macro algae, and add a cup of LS from your display tank. Or get the cup from the LFS's refugium if possible. That
should give you some diversity.

You can feed the tank phytoplankton every other day, and the pods in the refugium will get some food at the same time.

Marc


Yukon wrote:

> I just set up a 10 gallon pod tank to increase food supply for a mandarin. Will I have to feed it plankton, or can I just use frozen
> food? Also, should I wait for the tank to cycle before I add the macro algae? What kind of macro algae is best? Thanks. Tim

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[Marc Levenson]

Qman, I wouldn't recommend freezing pods, as Mandarins eat live food.

http://www.melevsreef.com/mandarin_care.html

Marc


Qman wrote:

> I like that idea, please post a howto once you get it running and producing.
> I'm curious if you produce more than you need how it reacts. Also how the
> health of the Mandarin is. Perhaps if you overproduce, you can freeze some
> for a snack if you were to go on vacation (I'm thinking capture some pods
> and freeze in ice cube trays)
> Curious idea for sure.
>
> "Yukon" > wrote in message
> hlink.net...
> > I just set up a 10 gallon pod tank to increase food supply for a mandarin.
> Will I have to feed it plankton, or can I just use frozen
> > food? Also, should I wait for the tank to cycle before I add the macro
> algae? What kind of macro algae is best? Thanks. Tim
> >
> >

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[Richard Reynolds]

> > health of the Mandarin is. Perhaps if you overproduce, you can freeze some
> > for a snack if you were to go on vacation (I'm thinking capture some pods
> Qman, I wouldn't recommend freezing pods, as Mandarins eat live food.

on top of that you cant overfeed pods, so if you have to many store them alive, and feed
them the day you go on vacation.

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[Yukon]

Hi Mark

What I have done is set up a 10 gallon tank separately, next to my 55 gallon reef. I didn't want to get into an overflow and such.
In the 10 gallon, I. put in crushed coral and a sponge filter. I got a big cup of grunge from one of my LFS live rock tanks, and put
that in. I put in a big piece of live rock from my 55, plus a few small pieces of reg unlive rock.:) That was one week ago. I now
see little white sand grains running all over the glass. I have ordered a few bottles of Phytoplankton, and will probably brew up
some of my own. I just wondered if the macro algae was important for a food source. By the way, do you know if the little pods I see
on the glass will grow up to be the bigger ones I sometimes see in my 55 gallon? Thanks. Tim


"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message ...
> You are setting up a refugium, Yukon. There is no need to worry about a cycle, because it is an extention of your current setup.
Add
> the sand, add the macro algae, and add a cup of LS from your display tank. Or get the cup from the LFS's refugium if possible.
That
> should give you some diversity.
>
> You can feed the tank phytoplankton every other day, and the pods in the refugium will get some food at the same time.
>
> Marc
>
>
> Yukon wrote:
>
> > I just set up a 10 gallon pod tank to increase food supply for a mandarin. Will I have to feed it plankton, or can I just use
frozen
> > food? Also, should I wait for the tank to cycle before I add the macro algae? What kind of macro algae is best? Thanks. Tim
>
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>
>

[Marc Levenson]

Various pods grow to different sizes. How do you plan to get them into your display? Some people put the refugium over the display,
and use a small powerhead to pump water into the refugium. Using gravity, the water drains back into the main tank, including pods
(live food).

Some pods do eat macro algae, such as a plant nicknamed Tang Heaven. But you can drop in a pinch of flake food or pellet food instead,
occasionally.

Marc


Yukon wrote:

> Hi Mark
>
> What I have done is set up a 10 gallon tank separately, next to my 55 gallon reef. I didn't want to get into an overflow and such.
> In the 10 gallon, I. put in crushed coral and a sponge filter. I got a big cup of grunge from one of my LFS live rock tanks, and put
> that in. I put in a big piece of live rock from my 55, plus a few small pieces of reg unlive rock.:) That was one week ago. I now
> see little white sand grains running all over the glass. I have ordered a few bottles of Phytoplankton, and will probably brew up
> some of my own. I just wondered if the macro algae was important for a food source. By the way, do you know if the little pods I see
> on the glass will grow up to be the bigger ones I sometimes see in my 55 gallon? Thanks. Tim
>
> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message ...
> > You are setting up a refugium, Yukon. There is no need to worry about a cycle, because it is an extention of your current setup.
> Add
> > the sand, add the macro algae, and add a cup of LS from your display tank. Or get the cup from the LFS's refugium if possible.
> That
> > should give you some diversity.
> >
> > You can feed the tank phytoplankton every other day, and the pods in the refugium will get some food at the same time.
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > Yukon wrote:
> >
> > > I just set up a 10 gallon pod tank to increase food supply for a mandarin. Will I have to feed it plankton, or can I just use
> frozen
> > > food? Also, should I wait for the tank to cycle before I add the macro algae? What kind of macro algae is best? Thanks. Tim
> >
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> >
> >

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[Yukon]

Hi Mark

To get them into the display tank, I thought I would transfer some of the rock from time to time between tanks. I also read
somewhere that you could use small lengths of pvc pipe with small holes drilled in them, so I might try that too. So are you saying
that the macro algae is more or less for a real refugium that is connected to the main system, and since mine is not, I do not
really need it? I thought if I put in some kind of macro algae, it would compete against the nuisance algae, and be healthier for
the pods? Or do you think the brown slimey algae would be better, and forget about the macro? As for using flake or pellet food,
would this be enough? Don't I need the Phytoplankton too? Thanks for being my answer guy! :) Tim


"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message ...
> Various pods grow to different sizes. How do you plan to get them into your display? Some people put the refugium over the
display,
> and use a small powerhead to pump water into the refugium. Using gravity, the water drains back into the main tank, including
pods
> (live food).
>
> Some pods do eat macro algae, such as a plant nicknamed Tang Heaven. But you can drop in a pinch of flake food or pellet food
instead,
> occasionally.
>
> Marc
>
>
> Yukon wrote:
>
> > Hi Mark
> >
> > What I have done is set up a 10 gallon tank separately, next to my 55 gallon reef. I didn't want to get into an overflow and
such.
> > In the 10 gallon, I. put in crushed coral and a sponge filter. I got a big cup of grunge from one of my LFS live rock tanks, and
put
> > that in. I put in a big piece of live rock from my 55, plus a few small pieces of reg unlive rock.:) That was one week ago. I
now
> > see little white sand grains running all over the glass. I have ordered a few bottles of Phytoplankton, and will probably brew
up
> > some of my own. I just wondered if the macro algae was important for a food source. By the way, do you know if the little pods I
see
> > on the glass will grow up to be the bigger ones I sometimes see in my 55 gallon? Thanks. Tim
> >
> > "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message ...
> > > You are setting up a refugium, Yukon. There is no need to worry about a cycle, because it is an extention of your current
setup.
> > Add
> > > the sand, add the macro algae, and add a cup of LS from your display tank. Or get the cup from the LFS's refugium if
possible.
> > That
> > > should give you some diversity.
> > >
> > > You can feed the tank phytoplankton every other day, and the pods in the refugium will get some food at the same time.
> > >
> > > Marc
> > >
> > >
> > > Yukon wrote:
> > >
> > > > I just set up a 10 gallon pod tank to increase food supply for a mandarin. Will I have to feed it plankton, or can I just
use
> > frozen
> > > > food? Also, should I wait for the tank to cycle before I add the macro algae? What kind of macro algae is best? Thanks.
Tim
> > >
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> > >
> > >
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>

[Marc Levenson]

You can transfer some rock, or put a sponge type block in the fuge for a few days. Lift it out and shake it off in your display tank.

Running macros wouldn't benefit the isolated tank besides something green to look at for the most part. It might avoid nuisance algae,
but in my experience all the algaes tend to grow in the refugium, micro and macro alike. The display stays algae free overall.

You can definitely feed phyto the the fuge, according to the correct dosage every other day. But to drop in something solid like pellet
or flake food will also feed your worms and pods too.

I would dose Phyto to your display every other day. One person observed that using Phyto reduced the amount of algae growing on the
glass. Softies appear to eat the Phyto, ime. I ran my tank without the stuff for about a month, and all my softies looked withered and
miserable. (I was trying to starve out the flatworms in my tank). I decided that it simply didn't matter and started adding phyto
again. All my soft corals perked up again within a week.

Marc


Yukon wrote:

> Hi Mark
>
> To get them into the display tank, I thought I would transfer some of the rock from time to time between tanks. I also read somewhere
> that you could use small lengths of pvc pipe with small holes drilled in them, so I might try that too. So are you saying that the
> macro algae is more or less for a real refugium that is connected to the main system, and since mine is not, I do not really need it?
> I thought if I put in some kind of macro algae, it would compete against the nuisance algae, and be healthier for the pods? Or do you
> think the brown slimey algae would be better, and forget about the macro? As for using flake or pellet food,
> would this be enough? Don't I need the Phytoplankton too? Thanks for being my answer guy! :) Tim
>
>

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[Yukon]

Thanks for all the great info, Mark. I'll post how it is going in the future. Tim


"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message ...
> You can transfer some rock, or put a sponge type block in the fuge for a few days. Lift it out and shake it off in your display
tank.
>
> Running macros wouldn't benefit the isolated tank besides something green to look at for the most part. It might avoid nuisance
algae,
> but in my experience all the algaes tend to grow in the refugium, micro and macro alike. The display stays algae free overall.
>
> You can definitely feed phyto the the fuge, according to the correct dosage every other day. But to drop in something solid like
pellet
> or flake food will also feed your worms and pods too.
>
> I would dose Phyto to your display every other day. One person observed that using Phyto reduced the amount of algae growing on
the
> glass. Softies appear to eat the Phyto, ime. I ran my tank without the stuff for about a month, and all my softies looked
withered and
> miserable. (I was trying to starve out the flatworms in my tank). I decided that it simply didn't matter and started adding
phyto
> again. All my soft corals perked up again within a week.
>
> Marc
>
>
> Yukon wrote:
>
> > Hi Mark
> >
> > To get them into the display tank, I thought I would transfer some of the rock from time to time between tanks. I also read
somewhere
> > that you could use small lengths of pvc pipe with small holes drilled in them, so I might try that too. So are you saying that
the
> > macro algae is more or less for a real refugium that is connected to the main system, and since mine is not, I do not really
need it?
> > I thought if I put in some kind of macro algae, it would compete against the nuisance algae, and be healthier for the pods? Or
do you
> > think the brown slimey algae would be better, and forget about the macro? As for using flake or pellet food,
> > would this be enough? Don't I need the Phytoplankton too? Thanks for being my answer guy! :) Tim
> >
> >
>
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>
>

[rbudwig]

Yukon wrote:
> Thanks for all the great info, Mark. I'll post how it is going in the future. Tim
>
>
> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message ...
>
>>You can transfer some rock, or put a sponge type block in the fuge for a few days. Lift it out and shake it off in your display
>
> tank.
>
>>Running macros wouldn't benefit the isolated tank besides something green to look at for the most part. It might avoid nuisance
>
> algae,
>
>>but in my experience all the algaes tend to grow in the refugium, micro and macro alike. The display stays algae free overall.
>>
>>You can definitely feed phyto the the fuge, according to the correct dosage every other day. But to drop in something solid like
>
> pellet
>
>>or flake food will also feed your worms and pods too.
>>
>>I would dose Phyto to your display every other day. One person observed that using Phyto reduced the amount of algae growing on
>
> the
>
>>glass. Softies appear to eat the Phyto, ime. I ran my tank without the stuff for about a month, and all my softies looked
>
> withered and
>
>>miserable. (I was trying to starve out the flatworms in my tank). I decided that it simply didn't matter and started adding
>
> phyto
>
>>again. All my soft corals perked up again within a week.
>>
>>Marc
>>
>>
>>Yukon wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi Mark
>>>
>>>To get them into the display tank, I thought I would transfer some of the rock from time to time between tanks. I also read
>
> somewhere
>
>>>that you could use small lengths of pvc pipe with small holes drilled in them, so I might try that too. So are you saying that
>
> the
>
>>>macro algae is more or less for a real refugium that is connected to the main system, and since mine is not, I do not really
>
> need it?
>
>>>I thought if I put in some kind of macro algae, it would compete against the nuisance algae, and be healthier for the pods? Or
>
> do you
>
>>>think the brown slimey algae would be better, and forget about the macro? As for using flake or pellet food,
>>>would this be enough? Don't I need the Phytoplankton too? Thanks for being my answer guy! :) Tim
>>>
>>>
>>
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>>
>>
>
>
>
Thanks to both of you, some of us learn a great deal by following the
line of questions.

Rex