Patience/Frustration I need your help

[Layer3guru]

All,

I am having terrible problems with red slime algae no matter what I do I
can't get rid of it. I am using RO/DI unit brand new to top off with, the
tank is 8 months old. I have spent a ton of money to try and do this right
but this red algae is really testing my patience what sucks is I use the
same water from my RO/DI unit to top off my freshwater tank from time to
time also and I get no algae at all in my fresh water tank. This morning I
spent brushing my live rock with a brand new tooth brush never used before
to get this stuff off my rock. Here is my setup below along with water
parameters any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah I have shrooms and
polyps in this tank that are growing like crazy. You can see a picture of
the slime I am talking about at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/1.JPG/ I was
using a modified seaclone at one time because it was given to me and on the
pics page you can see it pulled out dark skim, but I decided to buy a cpr
bakpak 2r which does a much better job in my opinion.

I feed twice a day a mixture of foods
Mysis
Formula One
Pygmy Angel Formula
And I feed thawed shrimp to the anemone's, I started with one but it split

Water Parameters taken this morning
salinity 1.024
ph 8.0
ammonia 0
nitrite 0
nitrate 5.0
Ca 445

As I stated any help would be greatly appreciated.


My Setup

55 Gallon

60 pounds Live Sand about 3 1/2 inch bed

80 Pounds Tampa Live Rock

1 150watt Heater

1 100watt Heater

3 MaxiJet 1200 for water circulation

1 ProQuatics 1600 Canister nothing in it besides using phosban every now and
again.

1 CPR Bak Pak 2r

260 watts of lighting 10hours a day by timer 2actinics 2 10,000 white.



Old Pictures Seen at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/ I will get around to
taking newer pictures soon I hope.

[Layer3guru]

Oh yeah one more thing the 3 maxi jets are on a red sea wavemaster pro.
I also have a sand sifting star along with many snails and hermits, I even
have 2 green emerald crabs. But this red stuff gets on the rocks and the
sand bed and is real thick but when you try to scope it out of the sand it
breaks up very easily.

"Layer3guru" > wrote in message
...
> All,
>
> I am having terrible problems with red slime algae no matter what I do I
> can't get rid of it. I am using RO/DI unit brand new to top off with, the
> tank is 8 months old. I have spent a ton of money to try and do this right
> but this red algae is really testing my patience what sucks is I use the
> same water from my RO/DI unit to top off my freshwater tank from time to
> time also and I get no algae at all in my fresh water tank. This morning I
> spent brushing my live rock with a brand new tooth brush never used before
> to get this stuff off my rock. Here is my setup below along with water
> parameters any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah I have shrooms
and
> polyps in this tank that are growing like crazy. You can see a picture of
> the slime I am talking about at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/1.JPG/ I
was
> using a modified seaclone at one time because it was given to me and on
the
> pics page you can see it pulled out dark skim, but I decided to buy a cpr
> bakpak 2r which does a much better job in my opinion.
>
> I feed twice a day a mixture of foods
> Mysis
> Formula One
> Pygmy Angel Formula
> And I feed thawed shrimp to the anemone's, I started with one but it split
>
> Water Parameters taken this morning
> salinity 1.024
> ph 8.0
> ammonia 0
> nitrite 0
> nitrate 5.0
> Ca 445
>
> As I stated any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> My Setup
>
> 55 Gallon
>
> 60 pounds Live Sand about 3 1/2 inch bed
>
> 80 Pounds Tampa Live Rock
>
> 1 150watt Heater
>
> 1 100watt Heater
>
> 3 MaxiJet 1200 for water circulation
>
> 1 ProQuatics 1600 Canister nothing in it besides using phosban every now
and
> again.
>
> 1 CPR Bak Pak 2r
>
> 260 watts of lighting 10hours a day by timer 2actinics 2 10,000 white.
>
>
>
> Old Pictures Seen at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/ I will get around to
> taking newer pictures soon I hope.
>
>

[rtk]

Here's my maybe peculiar experience. I had no red algae at all, never
even a hint of it. Then I got the cpr hob refugium and put a little pc
over it, sand and rock and green stuff in it. Days later, the evil red
slime came on with a vengence. The refugium, especially, was totally
coated. Fortunately, it occurred to me that the light might have been
excessive. I turned it off, cleaned up the little 'fuge and it all went
away. Now I turn on the light twice a day for an hour or two and I have
no problem. I don't know if any of this applies to your situation, of
course.

rtk



Layer3guru wrote:
> All,
>
> I am having terrible problems with red slime algae no matter what I do I
> can't get rid of it. I am using RO/DI unit brand new to top off with, the
> tank is 8 months old. I have spent a ton of money to try and do this right
> but this red algae is really testing my patience what sucks is I use the
> same water from my RO/DI unit to top off my freshwater tank from time to
> time also and I get no algae at all in my fresh water tank. This morning I
> spent brushing my live rock with a brand new tooth brush never used before
> to get this stuff off my rock. Here is my setup below along with water
> parameters any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah I have shrooms and
> polyps in this tank that are growing like crazy. You can see a picture of
> the slime I am talking about at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/1.JPG/ I was
> using a modified seaclone at one time because it was given to me and on the
> pics page you can see it pulled out dark skim, but I decided to buy a cpr
> bakpak 2r which does a much better job in my opinion.
>
> I feed twice a day a mixture of foods
> Mysis
> Formula One
> Pygmy Angel Formula
> And I feed thawed shrimp to the anemone's, I started with one but it split
>
> Water Parameters taken this morning
> salinity 1.024
> ph 8.0
> ammonia 0
> nitrite 0
> nitrate 5.0
> Ca 445
>
> As I stated any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> My Setup
>
> 55 Gallon
>
> 60 pounds Live Sand about 3 1/2 inch bed
>
> 80 Pounds Tampa Live Rock
>
> 1 150watt Heater
>
> 1 100watt Heater
>
> 3 MaxiJet 1200 for water circulation
>
> 1 ProQuatics 1600 Canister nothing in it besides using phosban every now and
> again.
>
> 1 CPR Bak Pak 2r
>
> 260 watts of lighting 10hours a day by timer 2actinics 2 10,000 white.
>
>
>
> Old Pictures Seen at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/ I will get around to
> taking newer pictures soon I hope.
>
>

[Marc Levenson]

Cyano is usually beaten when Phosphates are close to zero, and circulation is
good.

The stuff you showed in the picture (remove the / at the end of the URL for it
to work) should by siphoned out of your tank with airline tubing. Get as much
of it out of your tank as you can see and reach. If you need to, attach a piece
of rigid tubing to the flexible kind, to have better control.

I'm not a fan of the toothbrush method, because it just spreads stuff elsewhere.

You might try feeding only once a day.

Marc


Layer3guru wrote:

> All,
>
> I am having terrible problems with red slime algae no matter what I do I
> can't get rid of it. I am using RO/DI unit brand new to top off with, the
> tank is 8 months old. I have spent a ton of money to try and do this right
> but this red algae is really testing my patience what sucks is I use the
> same water from my RO/DI unit to top off my freshwater tank from time to
> time also and I get no algae at all in my fresh water tank. This morning I
> spent brushing my live rock with a brand new tooth brush never used before
> to get this stuff off my rock. Here is my setup below along with water
> parameters any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah I have shrooms and
> polyps in this tank that are growing like crazy. You can see a picture of
> the slime I am talking about at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/1.JPG/ I was
> using a modified seaclone at one time because it was given to me and on the
> pics page you can see it pulled out dark skim, but I decided to buy a cpr
> bakpak 2r which does a much better job in my opinion.
>
> I feed twice a day a mixture of foods
> Mysis
> Formula One
> Pygmy Angel Formula
> And I feed thawed shrimp to the anemone's, I started with one but it split
>
> Water Parameters taken this morning
> salinity 1.024
> ph 8.0
> ammonia 0
> nitrite 0
> nitrate 5.0
> Ca 445
>
> As I stated any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> My Setup
>
> 55 Gallon
>
> 60 pounds Live Sand about 3 1/2 inch bed
>
> 80 Pounds Tampa Live Rock
>
> 1 150watt Heater
>
> 1 100watt Heater
>
> 3 MaxiJet 1200 for water circulation
>
> 1 ProQuatics 1600 Canister nothing in it besides using phosban every now and
> again.
>
> 1 CPR Bak Pak 2r
>
> 260 watts of lighting 10hours a day by timer 2actinics 2 10,000 white.
>
> Old Pictures Seen at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/ I will get around to
> taking newer pictures soon I hope.

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[Marc Levenson]

Sand sifting stars eat the beneficial microfauna you want, killing your sand
bed. That could be a part of the problem.

If you don't have a refugium, you should consider it because the Macro algae
will outcompete microalgae growth in the display tank.

Marc


Layer3guru wrote:

> Oh yeah one more thing the 3 maxi jets are on a red sea wavemaster pro.
> I also have a sand sifting star along with many snails and hermits, I even
> have 2 green emerald crabs. But this red stuff gets on the rocks and the
> sand bed and is real thick but when you try to scope it out of the sand it
> breaks up very easily.
>
> "Layer3guru" > wrote in message
> ...
> > All,
> >
> > I am having terrible problems with red slime algae no matter what I do I
> > can't get rid of it. I am using RO/DI unit brand new to top off with, the
> > tank is 8 months old. I have spent a ton of money to try and do this right
> > but this red algae is really testing my patience what sucks is I use the
> > same water from my RO/DI unit to top off my freshwater tank from time to
> > time also and I get no algae at all in my fresh water tank. This morning I
> > spent brushing my live rock with a brand new tooth brush never used before
> > to get this stuff off my rock. Here is my setup below along with water
> > parameters any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah I have shrooms
> and
> > polyps in this tank that are growing like crazy. You can see a picture of
> > the slime I am talking about at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/1.JPG/ I
> was
> > using a modified seaclone at one time because it was given to me and on
> the
> > pics page you can see it pulled out dark skim, but I decided to buy a cpr
> > bakpak 2r which does a much better job in my opinion.
> >
> > I feed twice a day a mixture of foods
> > Mysis
> > Formula One
> > Pygmy Angel Formula
> > And I feed thawed shrimp to the anemone's, I started with one but it split
> >
> > Water Parameters taken this morning
> > salinity 1.024
> > ph 8.0
> > ammonia 0
> > nitrite 0
> > nitrate 5.0
> > Ca 445
> >
> > As I stated any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >
> > My Setup
> >
> > 55 Gallon
> >
> > 60 pounds Live Sand about 3 1/2 inch bed
> >
> > 80 Pounds Tampa Live Rock
> >
> > 1 150watt Heater
> >
> > 1 100watt Heater
> >
> > 3 MaxiJet 1200 for water circulation
> >
> > 1 ProQuatics 1600 Canister nothing in it besides using phosban every now
> and
> > again.
> >
> > 1 CPR Bak Pak 2r
> >
> > 260 watts of lighting 10hours a day by timer 2actinics 2 10,000 white.
> >
> >
> >
> > Old Pictures Seen at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/ I will get around to
> > taking newer pictures soon I hope.
> >
> >

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[Layer3guru]

I was told because my sand bed is so shallow that I need to be siphoning it
when I do water changes.

It was recommended that I siphon the bed and then add more sand to at least
get 4 to 6 inches of depth all around.

What do you all think?
"Layer3guru" > wrote in message
...
> All,
>
> I am having terrible problems with red slime algae no matter what I do I
> can't get rid of it. I am using RO/DI unit brand new to top off with, the
> tank is 8 months old. I have spent a ton of money to try and do this right
> but this red algae is really testing my patience what sucks is I use the
> same water from my RO/DI unit to top off my freshwater tank from time to
> time also and I get no algae at all in my fresh water tank. This morning I
> spent brushing my live rock with a brand new tooth brush never used before
> to get this stuff off my rock. Here is my setup below along with water
> parameters any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah I have shrooms
and
> polyps in this tank that are growing like crazy. You can see a picture of
> the slime I am talking about at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/1.JPG/ I
was
> using a modified seaclone at one time because it was given to me and on
the
> pics page you can see it pulled out dark skim, but I decided to buy a cpr
> bakpak 2r which does a much better job in my opinion.
>
> I feed twice a day a mixture of foods
> Mysis
> Formula One
> Pygmy Angel Formula
> And I feed thawed shrimp to the anemone's, I started with one but it split
>
> Water Parameters taken this morning
> salinity 1.024
> ph 8.0
> ammonia 0
> nitrite 0
> nitrate 5.0
> Ca 445
>
> As I stated any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> My Setup
>
> 55 Gallon
>
> 60 pounds Live Sand about 3 1/2 inch bed
>
> 80 Pounds Tampa Live Rock
>
> 1 150watt Heater
>
> 1 100watt Heater
>
> 3 MaxiJet 1200 for water circulation
>
> 1 ProQuatics 1600 Canister nothing in it besides using phosban every now
and
> again.
>
> 1 CPR Bak Pak 2r
>
> 260 watts of lighting 10hours a day by timer 2actinics 2 10,000 white.
>
>
>
> Old Pictures Seen at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/ I will get around to
> taking newer pictures soon I hope.
>
>

[reefman MC]

I've also used a chemical called Chemi-clean that killed the stuff
overnight. I got my Chemi-clean from the lfs, but noone seems to have
heard of it.


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[tech27]

I thought you were gone from here?

"reefman MC" > wrote in message
...
>
> I've also used a chemical called Chemi-clean that killed the stuff
> overnight. I got my Chemi-clean from the lfs, but noone seems to have
> heard of it.
>
>
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[reefman MC]

No, I'm still alive and kickin. I got the administrator to check it out
and he says he'll be checkin the site more often. So I'm a happy man,
but lets not mess this guys post up with talk of this same junk.


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[reefman MC]

Has anyone ever heard of Chemi-clean?


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[John N. Gretchen III]

MC,
If you would learn how to use usenet instead of posting and reading
through a web site you could "administrate" what you see on the screen
yourself.

reefman MC wrote:
> No, I'm still alive and kickin. I got the administrator to check it out
> and he says he'll be checkin the site more often. So I'm a happy man,
> but lets not mess this guys post up with talk of this same junk.
>
>
> --
> reefman MC

John N. Gretchen III
Port O'Connor TX
http://www.tisd.net/~jng3

[MakitaSalesRep]

I have used Chemi Cleam a few times and it has done a pretty good job each
time. It is not cheap though...$19.99 for enough to treat about 200 gallons.
Keep in mind that you usually want to dose it twice.....the seconds time 48
hours after the initial dose. Any turn your skimmer off during this time. Hope
that helps.

[Marc Levenson]

I know some gusy siphon their sand, especially when it is shallow. I would let
nature do that for me, with Fighting Conchs and Nassarious snails.

Marc


Layer3guru wrote:

> I was told because my sand bed is so shallow that I need to be siphoning it
> when I do water changes.
>
> It was recommended that I siphon the bed and then add more sand to at least
> get 4 to 6 inches of depth all around.
>
> What do you all think?
> "Layer3guru" > wrote in message
> ...
> > All,
> >
> > I am having terrible problems with red slime algae no matter what I do I
> > can't get rid of it. I am using RO/DI unit brand new to top off with, the
> > tank is 8 months old. I have spent a ton of money to try and do this right
> > but this red algae is really testing my patience what sucks is I use the
> > same water from my RO/DI unit to top off my freshwater tank from time to
> > time also and I get no algae at all in my fresh water tank. This morning I
> > spent brushing my live rock with a brand new tooth brush never used before
> > to get this stuff off my rock. Here is my setup below along with water
> > parameters any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah I have shrooms
> and
> > polyps in this tank that are growing like crazy. You can see a picture of
> > the slime I am talking about at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/1.JPG/ I
> was
> > using a modified seaclone at one time because it was given to me and on
> the
> > pics page you can see it pulled out dark skim, but I decided to buy a cpr
> > bakpak 2r which does a much better job in my opinion.
> >
> > I feed twice a day a mixture of foods
> > Mysis
> > Formula One
> > Pygmy Angel Formula
> > And I feed thawed shrimp to the anemone's, I started with one but it split
> >
> > Water Parameters taken this morning
> > salinity 1.024
> > ph 8.0
> > ammonia 0
> > nitrite 0
> > nitrate 5.0
> > Ca 445
> >
> > As I stated any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >
> > My Setup
> >
> > 55 Gallon
> >
> > 60 pounds Live Sand about 3 1/2 inch bed
> >
> > 80 Pounds Tampa Live Rock
> >
> > 1 150watt Heater
> >
> > 1 100watt Heater
> >
> > 3 MaxiJet 1200 for water circulation
> >
> > 1 ProQuatics 1600 Canister nothing in it besides using phosban every now
> and
> > again.
> >
> > 1 CPR Bak Pak 2r
> >
> > 260 watts of lighting 10hours a day by timer 2actinics 2 10,000 white.
> >
> >
> >
> > Old Pictures Seen at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/ I will get around to
> > taking newer pictures soon I hope.
> >
> >

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[CapFusion]

"rtk" > wrote in message
...
> Here's my maybe peculiar experience. I had no red algae at all, never
> even a hint of it. Then I got the cpr hob refugium and put a little pc
> over it, sand and rock and green stuff in it. Days later, the evil red
> slime came on with a vengence. The refugium, especially, was totally
> coated. Fortunately, it occurred to me that the light might have been
> excessive. I turned it off, cleaned up the little 'fuge and it all went
> away. Now I turn on the light twice a day for an hour or two and I have
> no problem. I don't know if any of this applies to your situation, of
> course.
>
> rtk

My guess is your and Layer3guru lamp maybe shift to bad spectrum. I have my
lamp running about 10hrs each day without problem with any type of algae.
BTW, I had to overfeed to get some algae start growing.

CapFusion,...

[CapFusion]

"Layer3guru" > wrote in message
...
> All,
>
> I am having terrible problems with red slime algae no matter what I do I
> can't get rid of it. I am using RO/DI unit brand new to top off with, the
> tank is 8 months old. I have spent a ton of money to try and do this right
> but this red algae is really testing my patience what sucks is I use the
> same water from my RO/DI unit to top off my freshwater tank from time to
> time also and I get no algae at all in my fresh water tank. This morning I
> spent brushing my live rock with a brand new tooth brush never used before
> to get this stuff off my rock. Here is my setup below along with water
> parameters any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah I have shrooms
and
> polyps in this tank that are growing like crazy. You can see a picture of
> the slime I am talking about at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/1.JPG/ I
was
> using a modified seaclone at one time because it was given to me and on
the
> pics page you can see it pulled out dark skim, but I decided to buy a cpr
> bakpak 2r which does a much better job in my opinion.
>
> I feed twice a day a mixture of foods
> Mysis
> Formula One
> Pygmy Angel Formula
> And I feed thawed shrimp to the anemone's, I started with one but it split
>
> Water Parameters taken this morning
> salinity 1.024
> ph 8.0
> ammonia 0
> nitrite 0
> nitrate 5.0
> Ca 445
>
> As I stated any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> My Setup
>
> 55 Gallon
>
> 60 pounds Live Sand about 3 1/2 inch bed
>
> 80 Pounds Tampa Live Rock
>
> 1 150watt Heater
>
> 1 100watt Heater
>
> 3 MaxiJet 1200 for water circulation
>
> 1 ProQuatics 1600 Canister nothing in it besides using phosban every now
and
> again.
>
> 1 CPR Bak Pak 2r
>
> 260 watts of lighting 10hours a day by timer 2actinics 2 10,000 white.
>
>
>
> Old Pictures Seen at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/ I will get around to
> taking newer pictures soon I hope.
>

You indicate you have 3 water pump, circulation current flow to where the
red algae?
Is your lamp old?
IMO, I do not think CPR will do a good job in a 55G.

Try removing the canister and see if it make any dfference. Phosban should
not be need since your have RO/DI unit.Your RO/DI should detect close to
zero or non-detectable.

At this current stage, you may need to use a vacuum while remove those
algae. Do not simply scrape it off while in the tank. You simply will seed
it somewhere else. Suck those algae out while being dislodge.

Other than your obvious Nitrate, I do not really see any other cause except
for above I meantion about that would cause algae issue.

CapFusion,...

[Layer3guru]

My lamps are 3 months old and you think they need to be changed already?
The 3 pumps I have one is close to the top, one is in the middle of the
tank, and one towards the bottom or at least as close as I can get it
without disturbing the sand.

"CapFusion" <CapFusion...@hotmail..,com> wrote in message
...
>
> "Layer3guru" > wrote in message
> ...
> > All,
> >
> > I am having terrible problems with red slime algae no matter what I do I
> > can't get rid of it. I am using RO/DI unit brand new to top off with,
the
> > tank is 8 months old. I have spent a ton of money to try and do this
right
> > but this red algae is really testing my patience what sucks is I use the
> > same water from my RO/DI unit to top off my freshwater tank from time to
> > time also and I get no algae at all in my fresh water tank. This morning
I
> > spent brushing my live rock with a brand new tooth brush never used
before
> > to get this stuff off my rock. Here is my setup below along with water
> > parameters any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah I have shrooms
> and
> > polyps in this tank that are growing like crazy. You can see a picture
of
> > the slime I am talking about at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/1.JPG/ I
> was
> > using a modified seaclone at one time because it was given to me and on
> the
> > pics page you can see it pulled out dark skim, but I decided to buy a
cpr
> > bakpak 2r which does a much better job in my opinion.
> >
> > I feed twice a day a mixture of foods
> > Mysis
> > Formula One
> > Pygmy Angel Formula
> > And I feed thawed shrimp to the anemone's, I started with one but it
split
> >
> > Water Parameters taken this morning
> > salinity 1.024
> > ph 8.0
> > ammonia 0
> > nitrite 0
> > nitrate 5.0
> > Ca 445
> >
> > As I stated any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >
> > My Setup
> >
> > 55 Gallon
> >
> > 60 pounds Live Sand about 3 1/2 inch bed
> >
> > 80 Pounds Tampa Live Rock
> >
> > 1 150watt Heater
> >
> > 1 100watt Heater
> >
> > 3 MaxiJet 1200 for water circulation
> >
> > 1 ProQuatics 1600 Canister nothing in it besides using phosban every now
> and
> > again.
> >
> > 1 CPR Bak Pak 2r
> >
> > 260 watts of lighting 10hours a day by timer 2actinics 2 10,000 white.
> >
> >
> >
> > Old Pictures Seen at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/ I will get around
to
> > taking newer pictures soon I hope.
> >
>
> You indicate you have 3 water pump, circulation current flow to where the
> red algae?
> Is your lamp old?
> IMO, I do not think CPR will do a good job in a 55G.
>
> Try removing the canister and see if it make any dfference. Phosban should
> not be need since your have RO/DI unit.Your RO/DI should detect close to
> zero or non-detectable.
>
> At this current stage, you may need to use a vacuum while remove those
> algae. Do not simply scrape it off while in the tank. You simply will seed
> it somewhere else. Suck those algae out while being dislodge.
>
> Other than your obvious Nitrate, I do not really see any other cause
except
> for above I meantion about that would cause algae issue.
>
> CapFusion,...
>
>

[Layer3guru]

I have like 6 King Nassarious snails.
And they do bury themselves in the sand becausethe family likes to watch
when I feed because it is like magic to watch them surface out of the sand
at feeding time.

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> I know some gusy siphon their sand, especially when it is shallow. I
would let
> nature do that for me, with Fighting Conchs and Nassarious snails.
>
> Marc
>
>
> Layer3guru wrote:
>
> > I was told because my sand bed is so shallow that I need to be siphoning
it
> > when I do water changes.
> >
> > It was recommended that I siphon the bed and then add more sand to at
least
> > get 4 to 6 inches of depth all around.
> >
> > What do you all think?
> > "Layer3guru" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > All,
> > >
> > > I am having terrible problems with red slime algae no matter what I do
I
> > > can't get rid of it. I am using RO/DI unit brand new to top off with,
the
> > > tank is 8 months old. I have spent a ton of money to try and do this
right
> > > but this red algae is really testing my patience what sucks is I use
the
> > > same water from my RO/DI unit to top off my freshwater tank from time
to
> > > time also and I get no algae at all in my fresh water tank. This
morning I
> > > spent brushing my live rock with a brand new tooth brush never used
before
> > > to get this stuff off my rock. Here is my setup below along with water
> > > parameters any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah I have
shrooms
> > and
> > > polyps in this tank that are growing like crazy. You can see a picture
of
> > > the slime I am talking about at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/1.JPG/
I
> > was
> > > using a modified seaclone at one time because it was given to me and
on
> > the
> > > pics page you can see it pulled out dark skim, but I decided to buy a
cpr
> > > bakpak 2r which does a much better job in my opinion.
> > >
> > > I feed twice a day a mixture of foods
> > > Mysis
> > > Formula One
> > > Pygmy Angel Formula
> > > And I feed thawed shrimp to the anemone's, I started with one but it
split
> > >
> > > Water Parameters taken this morning
> > > salinity 1.024
> > > ph 8.0
> > > ammonia 0
> > > nitrite 0
> > > nitrate 5.0
> > > Ca 445
> > >
> > > As I stated any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> > > My Setup
> > >
> > > 55 Gallon
> > >
> > > 60 pounds Live Sand about 3 1/2 inch bed
> > >
> > > 80 Pounds Tampa Live Rock
> > >
> > > 1 150watt Heater
> > >
> > > 1 100watt Heater
> > >
> > > 3 MaxiJet 1200 for water circulation
> > >
> > > 1 ProQuatics 1600 Canister nothing in it besides using phosban every
now
> > and
> > > again.
> > >
> > > 1 CPR Bak Pak 2r
> > >
> > > 260 watts of lighting 10hours a day by timer 2actinics 2 10,000 white.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Old Pictures Seen at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/ I will get
around to
> > > taking newer pictures soon I hope.
> > >
> > >
>
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[CapFusion]

"Layer3guru" > wrote in message
...
> My lamps are 3 months old and you think they need to be changed already?
> The 3 pumps I have one is close to the top, one is in the middle of the
> tank, and one towards the bottom or at least as close as I can get it
> without disturbing the sand.
>

Do you have another new lamp laying around by any chances? I do not know if
the current lamp you have is bad or not. You will need to narrow or
trouble-shooting the cause. 5ppm nitrate is not too bad of a reading. Of
course it better when non-detectable.

Try to aim your lower pump just about the top of your sand. The current
should carry some nutrient to the PS to skim it out. Or try to make a
current by wave to keep debris moving upward.

Can you remove the canister and it content and see if that will make any
differences.
How much janitoral crew do you have like shrimp / crab / snail etc...?

During the meantime, suck and scrap those algae out manually is the only
immediate temperarly answer.

The algae you have is feeding on something. I believe you already know the
basic.
Bad spectrium - red
Nutrient - extra food from feeding. [main contribution cause].
Water - trace unwanted element like nitrate / phosphate etc...
[Since you mention you have RO/DI, you should have not water issue]. But
double check for it reading just incase.

CapFusion,...

[br549]

IMHO, red slime is what we all have to deal with, it is caused by organic
nutrients in the H2O, Kent marine has a product called PolyOx the stuff is
aggressive and get ready to do a H2O change, this stuff will make red slime
algae (cyno bacteria) manageable.

Poor circulation will make the problem worse, direct your powerheads
accordingly and maybe add more, the red slime does not like turbulent H2O.

Aggressive protein skimming is advised to remove organic nutrients, I
recommend a snailman clone, http://www.hawkfish.org/snailman/skimmer101.htm
, at least read the page.

My 2cents,

BR549

"Layer3guru" > wrote in message
...
> All,
>
> I am having terrible problems with red slime algae no matter what I do I
> can't get rid of it. I am using RO/DI unit brand new to top off with, the
> tank is 8 months old. I have spent a ton of money to try and do this right
> but this red algae is really testing my patience what sucks is I use the
> same water from my RO/DI unit to top off my freshwater tank from time to
> time also and I get no algae at all in my fresh water tank. This morning I
> spent brushing my live rock with a brand new tooth brush never used before
> to get this stuff off my rock. Here is my setup below along with water
> parameters any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah I have shrooms
and
> polyps in this tank that are growing like crazy. You can see a picture of
> the slime I am talking about at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/1.JPG/ I
was
> using a modified seaclone at one time because it was given to me and on
the
> pics page you can see it pulled out dark skim, but I decided to buy a cpr
> bakpak 2r which does a much better job in my opinion.
>
> I feed twice a day a mixture of foods
> Mysis
> Formula One
> Pygmy Angel Formula
> And I feed thawed shrimp to the anemone's, I started with one but it split
>
> Water Parameters taken this morning
> salinity 1.024
> ph 8.0
> ammonia 0
> nitrite 0
> nitrate 5.0
> Ca 445
>
> As I stated any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> My Setup
>
> 55 Gallon
>
> 60 pounds Live Sand about 3 1/2 inch bed
>
> 80 Pounds Tampa Live Rock
>
> 1 150watt Heater
>
> 1 100watt Heater
>
> 3 MaxiJet 1200 for water circulation
>
> 1 ProQuatics 1600 Canister nothing in it besides using phosban every now
and
> again.
>
> 1 CPR Bak Pak 2r
>
> 260 watts of lighting 10hours a day by timer 2actinics 2 10,000 white.
>
>
>
> Old Pictures Seen at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/ I will get around to
> taking newer pictures soon I hope.
>
>
>