Sump Noise

[Layer3guru]

All,

I have a H.O.T overflow I have made a modified Stockman Pipe
(http://www.dursostandpipes.com/) to keep the noise down which has worked
great. But now it is bubling in the sump and making a gurgling noise. I am
looking for ideas to quiet this down or the sump might havc to go as the
tank is in the den where we all watch tv. I got everything just right but
just can't seem to get rid of the noise I am not worried about flooding as I
have cut the power to my pump a number of times and it works great and the
overflow stays primed the whole time. I have plumbed everything with PVC
maybe I need to use soft flexable on the drain?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Marc Levenson]

Try this:

http://www.melevsreef.com/plumbing/pvc_cut.jpg

Marc


Layer3guru wrote:

> All,
>
> I have a H.O.T overflow I have made a modified Stockman Pipe
> (http://www.dursostandpipes.com/) to keep the noise down which has worked
> great. But now it is bubling in the sump and making a gurgling noise. I am
> looking for ideas to quiet this down or the sump might havc to go as the
> tank is in the den where we all watch tv. I got everything just right but
> just can't seem to get rid of the noise I am not worried about flooding as I
> have cut the power to my pump a number of times and it works great and the
> overflow stays primed the whole time. I have plumbed everything with PVC
> maybe I need to use soft flexable on the drain?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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[Layer3guru]

So your saying just cut some slits in the pvc inside the sump?
"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> Try this:
>
> http://www.melevsreef.com/plumbing/pvc_cut.jpg
>
> Marc
>
>
> Layer3guru wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> > I have a H.O.T overflow I have made a modified Stockman Pipe
> > (http://www.dursostandpipes.com/) to keep the noise down which has
worked
> > great. But now it is bubling in the sump and making a gurgling noise. I
am
> > looking for ideas to quiet this down or the sump might havc to go as the
> > tank is in the den where we all watch tv. I got everything just right
but
> > just can't seem to get rid of the noise I am not worried about flooding
as I
> > have cut the power to my pump a number of times and it works great and
the
> > overflow stays primed the whole time. I have plumbed everything with PVC
> > maybe I need to use soft flexable on the drain?
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> --
> Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>
>

[Marc Levenson]

Yes.

Marc


Layer3guru wrote:

> So your saying just cut some slits in the pvc inside the sump?
> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Try this:
> >
> > http://www.melevsreef.com/plumbing/pvc_cut.jpg
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > Layer3guru wrote:
> >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > I have a H.O.T overflow I have made a modified Stockman Pipe
> > > (http://www.dursostandpipes.com/) to keep the noise down which has
> worked
> > > great. But now it is bubling in the sump and making a gurgling noise. I
> am
> > > looking for ideas to quiet this down or the sump might havc to go as the
> > > tank is in the den where we all watch tv. I got everything just right
> but
> > > just can't seem to get rid of the noise I am not worried about flooding
> as I
> > > have cut the power to my pump a number of times and it works great and
> the
> > > overflow stays primed the whole time. I have plumbed everything with PVC
> > > maybe I need to use soft flexable on the drain?
> > >
> > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > --
> > Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> > Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> > Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
> >
> >

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[Phil Krasnostein]

I am having exactly the same problem -- this might save my
marriage................


Phil




"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> Yes.
>
> Marc
>
>
> Layer3guru wrote:
>
> > So your saying just cut some slits in the pvc inside the sump?
> > "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Try this:
> > >
> > > http://www.melevsreef.com/plumbing/pvc_cut.jpg
> > >
> > > Marc
> > >
> > >
> > > Layer3guru wrote:
> > >
> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > > I have a H.O.T overflow I have made a modified Stockman Pipe
> > > > (http://www.dursostandpipes.com/) to keep the noise down which has
> > worked
> > > > great. But now it is bubling in the sump and making a gurgling
noise. I
> > am
> > > > looking for ideas to quiet this down or the sump might havc to go as
the
> > > > tank is in the den where we all watch tv. I got everything just
right
> > but
> > > > just can't seem to get rid of the noise I am not worried about
flooding
> > as I
> > > > have cut the power to my pump a number of times and it works great
and
> > the
> > > > overflow stays primed the whole time. I have plumbed everything with
PVC
> > > > maybe I need to use soft flexable on the drain?
> > > >
> > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Personal Page:
http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> > > Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> > > Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
> > >
> > >
>
> --
> Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>
>

[Toni]

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> Yes.
>
> Marc
>
>
> Layer3guru wrote:
>
> > So your saying just cut some slits in the pvc inside the sump?




OK- so I need it spelled out for me...... what piece exactly am I cutting
slits in?


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[Rod]

another option is to have the drain line going into the side of a "T" ,.. one
end of the T will have pipe that goes down and the other end goes up with a
stand pipe/air vent. The water will flow down to the sump and the bubbles will
escape through the standpipe/airvent.

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I I<---Air
I I
______I I
______ I
I I
~~~~I I~~~~~
I I
I I
I I

[Rod]

0oops. The drawing didnt quite work, but ya might be able to get the idea

[PaulB]

Try this:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=354779


"Layer3guru" > wrote in message
.. .
> So your saying just cut some slits in the pvc inside the sump?
> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Try this:
> >
> > http://www.melevsreef.com/plumbing/pvc_cut.jpg
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > Layer3guru wrote:
> >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > I have a H.O.T overflow I have made a modified Stockman Pipe
> > > (http://www.dursostandpipes.com/) to keep the noise down which has
> worked
> > > great. But now it is bubling in the sump and making a gurgling noise.
I
> am
> > > looking for ideas to quiet this down or the sump might havc to go as
the
> > > tank is in the den where we all watch tv. I got everything just right
> but
> > > just can't seem to get rid of the noise I am not worried about
flooding
> as I
> > > have cut the power to my pump a number of times and it works great and
> the
> > > overflow stays primed the whole time. I have plumbed everything with
PVC
> > > maybe I need to use soft flexable on the drain?
> > >
> > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > --
> > Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> > Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> > Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
> >
> >
>
>

[John Krempasky]

Ok, I set up a new 75 gallon with sump in January and went insane for a
couple weeks trying to quiet the return (one problem was that on forums
people always assumed the standpipe/drain in the main tank was making the
noise, not the SUMP outlet of the drain hose which I presume is your
problem.)

Forget all the slit and hole cutting and elaborate T piping and such in the
sump...I tried all of that forever and none of it made a whit of difference.

I do use black vinyl for my plumbing, not PVC, and my return pump is a Mag
7, so your mileage may vary.

The key is to REDUCE THE SIZE of your drain hose. I did it and my burping
problems were solved. If your drain hose is much bigger than the volume of
water going through it you'll end up burping.

Then on the end of my drain hose I have an L-shaped barb fitting that I have
submerged and rotated till I reduced the last noise to almost nothing by
rotating it to get just the right flow direction.

[Marc Levenson]

I would cut the slits in a horizontal piece of PVC that will fit inside your
sump *at the water's surface*.

http://www.melevsreef.com/plumbing/pvc_cut.jpg

Marc


Toni wrote:

> OK- so I need it spelled out for me...... what piece exactly am I cutting
> slits in?
>

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[Marc Levenson]

Thanks Paul, that is very interesting. I saved that link.

Marc


PaulB wrote:

> Try this:
> http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=354779
>
>

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[PaulB]

No problem.

I think the reverse Durso is a good idea and I am going to try this on the tank I am setting up.

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message ...
Thanks Paul, that is very interesting. I saved that link.

Marc

PaulB wrote:

Try this:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=354779


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[PaulB]

I think that that is what this thread is about, just using the returns as a
safety device when restricting the standpipe.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=344892

I think I might give this a try. I saw it some time ago, but didn't
consider it because restricting my returns didn't sound like a good idea.
But I have my tank positioned 5" from the wall to make way for a Wave2K, so
I may as well run my returns up the behind the tank and use my in tank
returns as extra standpipes.


"John Krempasky" > wrote in message
...
> Ok, I set up a new 75 gallon with sump in January and went insane for a
> couple weeks trying to quiet the return (one problem was that on forums
> people always assumed the standpipe/drain in the main tank was making the
> noise, not the SUMP outlet of the drain hose which I presume is your
> problem.)
>
> Forget all the slit and hole cutting and elaborate T piping and such in
the
> sump...I tried all of that forever and none of it made a whit of
difference.
>
> I do use black vinyl for my plumbing, not PVC, and my return pump is a Mag
> 7, so your mileage may vary.
>
> The key is to REDUCE THE SIZE of your drain hose. I did it and my burping
> problems were solved. If your drain hose is much bigger than the volume
of
> water going through it you'll end up burping.
>
> Then on the end of my drain hose I have an L-shaped barb fitting that I
have
> submerged and rotated till I reduced the last noise to almost nothing by
> rotating it to get just the right flow direction.
>
>
>