mangroves anyone ?????

[robin.gordon1]

I've been having a few problems with algae in my tank even if the tests say
its between 10-15ppm. this really got bad after replacing my MH bulb so I've
set up a 24/7 lighting system in my sump and am contemplating whether to go
with a lot of calerpa or maybe a couple of mangroves.
I did try a pod a couple of years ago but it died in no time so is the time
right to try again.

anyone got any experience or tips.

Robin

[Marc Levenson]

I bought two mangrove branches (plants) in January, and put them in my
refugium. The light bulb is on 24/7, and is a 5100K bulb (from Home Depot).
The mangroves just grow quietly, and I never touch them.

Cheatomorpha is the algae I grow in my refugium, and it has kept my tank algae /
nitrate free.

Marc


"robin.gordon1" wrote:

> I've been having a few problems with algae in my tank even if the tests say
> its between 10-15ppm. this really got bad after replacing my MH bulb so I've
> set up a 24/7 lighting system in my sump and am contemplating whether to go
> with a lot of calerpa or maybe a couple of mangroves.
> I did try a pod a couple of years ago but it died in no time so is the time
> right to try again.
>
> anyone got any experience or tips.
>
> Robin

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[John Vernier Simon]

Mangroves: Slow to take up nitrates, but from my experiance very
robust when they get going. Of course getting them going can be a
challenge, I have had a lot more luck with Hawaiin mangroves then
those from the Gulf Coast (Florida). Always by extra and expect a
couple to die off quickly

Calepura: quick to take up nitrates, can spread all over though, even
to the main tank when the breed.

I would recommend a combo of both, least thats what I do. Not sure
about good empircal data to back this up, still working on researching
that. Anyone have some numbers to put to this?


"robin.gordon1" > wrote in message >...
> I've been having a few problems with algae in my tank even if the tests say
> its between 10-15ppm. this really got bad after replacing my MH bulb so I've
> set up a 24/7 lighting system in my sump and am contemplating whether to go
> with a lot of calerpa or maybe a couple of mangroves.
> I did try a pod a couple of years ago but it died in no time so is the time
> right to try again.

[Simon O'Keeffe]

Use micro algae instead.
It's the most efficient and a few square feet will do the job of a
hundred mangrove seedlings or meters of caulerpa.
I think the Chaetomorpha that Marc grows is very efficeint but I have
not tried it yet (have not been able to source any).
Even this stuff is about 6-10 times slower at nutrient uptake tank most
of the oportunistic micros.
Skip the mangroves though, they take years to do much at all.
Microa algae is exellent for uptake of nutrient just be aware it's
pretty gross to clean the algae filter with micro algae Yeee-uck.
Simon

robin.gordon1 wrote:

>I've been having a few problems with algae in my tank even if the tests say
>its between 10-15ppm. this really got bad after replacing my MH bulb so I've
>set up a 24/7 lighting system in my sump and am contemplating whether to go
>with a lot of calerpa or maybe a couple of mangroves.
>I did try a pod a couple of years ago but it died in no time so is the time
>right to try again.
>
>anyone got any experience or tips.
>
>Robin
>
>
>
>

[Richard Reynolds]

id agree, but to do it right takes work, not a lot of work but its still work

an ATS is a better option however its got some added costs for a more complex setup,
higher light requirements ....


im not sure im following you on "clean the algae filter with micro algae" whats that
really mean ???


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[Marc Levenson]

I can't remember who has it set up, but there is a guy on ReefCentral that has a
mangrove tank next to his display. It must have 40 mangroves in it, growing in
about 12" of sand. It actually looked like a houseplant next to his tank, and he
was reporting excellent numbers.

Simon, I don't know the origin of Cheatomorpha, but you are down in Australia
right? The GBR doesn't contain this macro algae? I'm not encouraging you to
steal from the reef, but I'm surprised your LFS don't have it available, or that
they can't order it.

Marc


Simon O'Keeffe wrote:

> Use micro algae instead.
> It's the most efficient and a few square feet will do the job of a
> hundred mangrove seedlings or meters of caulerpa.
> I think the Chaetomorpha that Marc grows is very efficeint but I have
> not tried it yet (have not been able to source any).
> Even this stuff is about 6-10 times slower at nutrient uptake tank most
> of the oportunistic micros.
> Skip the mangroves though, they take years to do much at all.
> Microa algae is exellent for uptake of nutrient just be aware it's
> pretty gross to clean the algae filter with micro algae Yeee-uck.
> Simon
>
> robin.gordon1 wrote:
>
> >I've been having a few problems with algae in my tank even if the tests say
> >its between 10-15ppm. this really got bad after replacing my MH bulb so I've
> >set up a 24/7 lighting system in my sump and am contemplating whether to go
> >with a lot of calerpa or maybe a couple of mangroves.
> >I did try a pod a couple of years ago but it died in no time so is the time
> >right to try again.
> >
> >anyone got any experience or tips.
> >
> >Robin
> >
> >
> >
> >

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[Microbot]

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"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> I can't remember who has it set up, but there is a guy on ReefCentral that
has a
> mangrove tank next to his display. It must have 40 mangroves in it,
growing in
> about 12" of sand. It actually looked like a houseplant next to his tank,
and he
> was reporting excellent numbers.
>
> Simon, I don't know the origin of Cheatomorpha, but you are down in
Australia
> right? The GBR doesn't contain this macro algae? I'm not encouraging you
to
> steal from the reef, but I'm surprised your LFS don't have it available,
or that
> they can't order it.
>
> Marc
>
>
> Simon O'Keeffe wrote:
>
> > Use micro algae instead.
> > It's the most efficient and a few square feet will do the job of a
> > hundred mangrove seedlings or meters of caulerpa.
> > I think the Chaetomorpha that Marc grows is very efficeint but I have
> > not tried it yet (have not been able to source any).
> > Even this stuff is about 6-10 times slower at nutrient uptake tank most
> > of the oportunistic micros.
> > Skip the mangroves though, they take years to do much at all.
> > Microa algae is exellent for uptake of nutrient just be aware it's
> > pretty gross to clean the algae filter with micro algae Yeee-uck.
> > Simon
> >
> > robin.gordon1 wrote:
> >
> > >I've been having a few problems with algae in my tank even if the tests
say
> > >its between 10-15ppm. this really got bad after replacing my MH bulb so
I've
> > >set up a 24/7 lighting system in my sump and am contemplating whether
to go
> > >with a lot of calerpa or maybe a couple of mangroves.
> > >I did try a pod a couple of years ago but it died in no time so is the
time
> > >right to try again.
> > >
> > >anyone got any experience or tips.
> > >
> > >Robin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
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