Salt Mixes

[skozzy]

What is a better choice of salt type. Dry salt in bags, or wet salt in
buckets ?

[Kevin M]

"skozzy" > wrote in message
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| What is a better choice of salt type. Dry salt in bags, or wet salt in
| buckets ?


Never heard of wet salt. What brand is this you are referring to?
I'd say dry salt is the way to go.

Kev

[BriMc]

I think Skozzy is referring to boxed sea water. I hear of people using it to
top off their systems. I would think that it would get costly filling a tank
with it. Most people I know have been using the plain instant ocean salt mix
with great results. For the ten years I had my reef up that is what I used
also.

Brian
"Kevin M" > wrote in message
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> "skozzy" > wrote in message
> u...
> | What is a better choice of salt type. Dry salt in bags, or wet salt in
> | buckets ?
>
>
> Never heard of wet salt. What brand is this you are referring to?
> I'd say dry salt is the way to go.
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> Kev
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[Richard Reynolds]

> What is a better choice of salt type. Dry salt in bags, or wet salt in
> buckets ?

if your actually refering to the liquid concentrated SW, id go dry, its tooo $$$

if your refering to NSW in a box, id toss a coin. NSW can be better, but it has a cost,
and if it is better or not will depend on many things.

--
Richard Reynolds

[skozzy]

> What is a better choice of salt type. Dry salt in bags, or wet salt in
> buckets ?


Umm, Ok, what I mean here, is the LFS's around here have salt in 2 forms,
one is packaged as salt totally dry generally in plastic bags, you have to
mix it with water and some LFS say to allow it to dilute for upto 48 hours
before using it.

The Wet Mix, is the same weight in salt but it has added about 1/2 a litre
of water, and with this is added the trace elements, buffers and all the
other goodies that goes with marine salt, when this salt is mixed in fresh
water it dilute very fast, and in most cases is ready to use in a hour or
two. Because it is 'WET' it comes in a sealed bucket.

The size and weight of the dry vs. wet is almost the same. I just feel the
wet mix in a sealed bucket is much safer from contamination. And around here
the wet mix is cheaper then the dry mix.

[PaulB]

I have never seen a wet mix salt, but a saturated sal****er solution would
be very easy to mix. The only problem is that I think water hits saturation
in something under 10X NSW concentration, so it would take at least 5
gallons to make 50 gallons of water. This would have to be expensive
because of the weight that has to be shipped.

I have seen NSW in jugs at my local store, but it is something like $12 for
5 gallons. I bought a couple to get the container it comes in, but I
wouldn't use it regularly unless I had a very small tank. You would be
amazed at how fast they go through that stuff though.





"skozzy" > wrote in message
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> What is a better choice of salt type. Dry salt in bags, or wet salt in
> buckets ?
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[Pszemol]

"skozzy" > wrote in message u...
> The Wet Mix, is the same weight in salt but it has added about 1/2 a litre
> of water, and with this is added the trace elements, buffers and all the
> other goodies that goes with marine salt, when this salt is mixed in fresh
> water it dilute very fast, and in most cases is ready to use in a hour or
> two. Because it is 'WET' it comes in a sealed bucket.

What product exactly are you refering to? What sizes of boxes/buckets?

> The size and weight of the dry vs. wet is almost the same. I just feel the
> wet mix in a sealed bucket is much safer from contamination. And around here
> the wet mix is cheaper then the dry mix.

How much is it?

[Pszemol]

"BriMc" > wrote in message ...
> I think Skozzy is referring to boxed sea water.
> I hear of people using it to top off their systems.

Sea water for top off evaporation??? What a crazy idea!

[skozzy]

> > The Wet Mix, is the same weight in salt but it has added about 1/2 a
litre
> > of water, and with this is added the trace elements, buffers and all the
> > other goodies that goes with marine salt, when this salt is mixed in
fresh
> > water it dilute very fast, and in most cases is ready to use in a hour
or
> > two. Because it is 'WET' it comes in a sealed bucket.
>
> What product exactly are you refering to? What sizes of boxes/buckets?

Where I am it's called Marine Magic, it's in a 10 litre bucket.

> > The size and weight of the dry vs. wet is almost the same. I just feel
the
> > wet mix in a sealed bucket is much safer from contamination. And around
here
> > the wet mix is cheaper then the dry mix.
>
> How much is it?

The wet mix is $35aus (mixes 300 litres), the dry stuff is $50aus (mixes 300
litres).

I was told that the local marine wearhouse (one of our importers) is
supposed to make it there. It's sold in some of the LFS in my area, and I am
not sure if he sells it nation wide, I didn't ask.

[Pszemol]

"skozzy" > wrote in message u...
> > What product exactly are you refering to? What sizes of boxes/buckets?
>
> Where I am it's called Marine Magic, it's in a 10 litre bucket.

Might be something local to Australia, I cannot find any info on it on google.

> > How much is it?
>
> The wet mix is $35aus (mixes 300 litres), the dry stuff is $50aus (mixes 300
> litres).
>
> I was told that the local marine wearhouse (one of our importers) is
> supposed to make it there. It's sold in some of the LFS in my area, and I am
> not sure if he sells it nation wide, I didn't ask.

I would be sceptical to some "garage-made" salt mixes...
You might be comparing the price of quality brand dry salt with some
home-made salt mix which is not used/tested by enough people to
test its quality and reliability (sample contents stability).
The salt mix is heavy, so the retail price contains shipping charges.
If this stuff is made locally and not shipped over the continent this
will be enough price difference to be noticed in retail...

If you are willing to test this unknown salt in your aquarium - good luck :-)

[Boomer]

Not a good idea to buy or sell wet salt, to much can go wrong, such as the production of
calcium sulfate

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"skozzy" > wrote in message
u...
: > What is a better choice of salt type. Dry salt in bags, or wet salt in
: > buckets ?
:
:
: Umm, Ok, what I mean here, is the LFS's around here have salt in 2 forms,
: one is packaged as salt totally dry generally in plastic bags, you have to
: mix it with water and some LFS say to allow it to dilute for upto 48 hours
: before using it.
:
: The Wet Mix, is the same weight in salt but it has added about 1/2 a litre
: of water, and with this is added the trace elements, buffers and all the
: other goodies that goes with marine salt, when this salt is mixed in fresh
: water it dilute very fast, and in most cases is ready to use in a hour or
: two. Because it is 'WET' it comes in a sealed bucket.
:
: The size and weight of the dry vs. wet is almost the same. I just feel the
: wet mix in a sealed bucket is much safer from contamination. And around here
: the wet mix is cheaper then the dry mix.
:
:
:

[RicSeyler]

Wha?????
Top off with salted water? NADA!!!!

BriMc wrote:

>I think Skozzy is referring to boxed sea water. I hear of people using it to
>top off their systems. I would think that it would get costly filling a tank
>with it. Most people I know have been using the plain instant ocean salt mix
>with great results. For the ten years I had my reef up that is what I used
>also.
>
>Brian
>"Kevin M" > wrote in message
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>>"skozzy" > wrote in message
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>>| What is a better choice of salt type. Dry salt in bags, or wet salt in
>>| buckets ?
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>>Never heard of wet salt. What brand is this you are referring to?
>>I'd say dry salt is the way to go.
>>
>>Kev
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--
Ric Seyler

[CapFusion]

"skozzy" > wrote in message
u...
> What is a better choice of salt type. Dry salt in bags, or wet salt in
> buckets ?
>

I do not know any wet type of salt other than from the sea. Do you have a
brand or manufacturer that make it?

CapFusion,...

[skozzy]

> Not a good idea to buy or sell wet salt, to much can go wrong, such as the
production of
> calcium sulfate

Can you tell me more at this. It's something I never thought of.

[skozzy]

> > What is a better choice of salt type. Dry salt in bags, or wet salt in
> > buckets ?
> >
>
> I do not know any wet type of salt other than from the sea. Do you have a
> brand or manufacturer that make it?

Marine Magic is the name. As for manurfacture, well the LFS tells me they
make it there.

[Boomer]

Slurries can cause Calcium Sulfate to precip out of solution and any evaporation will make
it even worse. It is how evaporate deposits (geologically) are formed in some countries.
Here is a article, look at the table 2 and the 2 paragraphs above. The site was down when
I went for a look but the table shows how much Calcium Sulfate is produced at different
concentrations of water. Time plays a role here of course, so if it was used quickly it
should be no problem. Sitting for days or weeks will be another issue

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"skozzy" > wrote in message
u...
: > Not a good idea to buy or sell wet salt, to much can go wrong, such as the
: production of
: > calcium sulfate
:
: Can you tell me more at this. It's something I never thought of.
:
:
:

[skozzy]

Do you think sitting wet in a air tight sealed bucket is going to make any
difference to the sulfate problem ? I'd like to learn about this so I can go
back to the LFS and ask them if they have taken this into concideration
before packaging it like that.

"Boomer" > wrote in message
...
> Slurries can cause Calcium Sulfate to precip out of solution and any
evaporation will make
> it even worse. It is how evaporate deposits (geologically) are formed in
some countries.
> Here is a article, look at the table 2 and the 2 paragraphs above. The
site was down when
> I went for a look but the table shows how much Calcium Sulfate is produced
at different
> concentrations of water. Time plays a role here of course, so if it was
used quickly it
> should be no problem. Sitting for days or weeks will be another issue
>
>
http://web.archive.org/web/20011217234403/www.animalnetwork.com/fish2/aqfm/1997/sep/bio/default.asp
>
>
> Boomer
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> "skozzy" > wrote in message
> u...
> : > Not a good idea to buy or sell wet salt, to much can go wrong, such as
the
> : production of
> : > calcium sulfate
> :
> : Can you tell me more at this. It's something I never thought of.
> :
> :
> :
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