anemone corral

[hyperoglyphe]

I have a H. magnifica that periodically wanders, including time spent on the
glass. Not a good look. I've tried to make a nice reef for it and varied
the 175 10000K MH location, to no avail. Yesterday it was on the glass,
this morning it was back on the reef. The biggest problem is the
devastation it leaves behind.

I've noticed it often wanders after dawn (toward the sunrise), and I cannot
block the window light enough for it to think the real dawn is when the
lights are timed to go on.

I've heard you can trap them into one location by using stinging inverts of
some form. Surround the pinnacle it sits on. Anyone tried this? What do
you use?

Dave

[Pszemol]

"hyperoglyphe" > wrote in message ...
> I have a H. magnifica that periodically wanders, including time spent on the
> glass. Not a good look. I've tried to make a nice reef for it and varied
> the 175 10000K MH location, to no avail. Yesterday it was on the glass,
> this morning it was back on the reef. The biggest problem is the
> devastation it leaves behind.

What kind of tank do you have? How big? How deep? Is 175W enough light?
Is water quality good?

> I've noticed it often wanders after dawn (toward the sunrise), and I cannot
> block the window light enough for it to think the real dawn is when the
> lights are timed to go on.

I read that anemone wanders when it is not feeling good in this place.
It is a first sign of stress: the animal is trying to migrate to
a better place for it to live...

> I've heard you can trap them into one location by using stinging inverts of
> some form. Surround the pinnacle it sits on. Anyone tried this? What do
> you use?

Be carefull, traping it might cover the problem, not fix it...
The anemone is not feeling good if it does not stay in one place on
its own. Try to do better lighting if you noticed it is missing the sun.
Maybe your tank is good enought for some good 200 or 400W HQI? Maybe
just better kind of 175W light? The bulbs differ in light they produce
- some 200W bulbs may create more PAR (photons) than bad 400W bulbs...
We do not see this, photosynthetic animals do see clearly the difference!
The worst case: do not trap the anemone - bring it back to the store
or give it to someone who can provide a better place to live for it...
A place the animal does not have to wander desperatelly in hope to survive.

[PaulB]

Those are notorious for wandering, and for killing every sessile invert in
their tanks. My advice is get rid of it and get a BTA.



"hyperoglyphe" > wrote in message
...
> I have a H. magnifica that periodically wanders, including time spent on
the
> glass. Not a good look. I've tried to make a nice reef for it and varied
> the 175 10000K MH location, to no avail. Yesterday it was on the glass,
> this morning it was back on the reef. The biggest problem is the
> devastation it leaves behind.
>
> I've noticed it often wanders after dawn (toward the sunrise), and I
cannot
> block the window light enough for it to think the real dawn is when the
> lights are timed to go on.
>
> I've heard you can trap them into one location by using stinging inverts
of
> some form. Surround the pinnacle it sits on. Anyone tried this? What do
> you use?
>
> Dave
>
>

[hyperoglyphe]

"Pszemol" > wrote in message
...
> "hyperoglyphe" > wrote in message
...
> > I have a H. magnifica that periodically wanders, including time spent on
the
> > glass. Not a good look. I've tried to make a nice reef for it and
varied
> > the 175 10000K MH location, to no avail. Yesterday it was on the glass,
> > this morning it was back on the reef. The biggest problem is the
> > devastation it leaves behind.
>
> What kind of tank do you have? How big? How deep? Is 175W enough light?
> Is water quality good?
>
[...]
>
> I read that anemone wanders when it is not feeling good in this place.
> It is a first sign of stress: the animal is trying to migrate to
> a better place for it to live...

This is my primary concern. 33 US gal tank. Queen skimmer, several
powerheads, tank loaded with LR. and a couple of small corals that I keep
deep. 2 percula clowns. A surprising number of mobile inverts including a
deep blue slug I only see at night. I live on a beach (clean water: marine
reserve) so filtered water changes are frequent: around 30% every 2 weeks.
This, plus the low animal load results in clean water on all chem tests. If
there is a problem it is most likely light.

>
> > I've heard you can trap them into one location by using stinging
inverts of
> > some form. Surround the pinnacle it sits on. Anyone tried this? What
do
> > you use?
>
> Be carefull, traping it might cover the problem, not fix it...
> The anemone is not feeling good if it does not stay in one place on
> its own. Try to do better lighting if you noticed it is missing the sun.
> Maybe your tank is good enought for some good 200 or 400W HQI? Maybe
> just better kind of 175W light? The bulbs differ in light they produce
> - some 200W bulbs may create more PAR (photons) than bad 400W bulbs...
> We do not see this, photosynthetic animals do see clearly the difference!
> The worst case: do not trap the anemone - bring it back to the store
> or give it to someone who can provide a better place to live for it...
> A place the animal does not have to wander desperatelly in hope to
survive.

Fair call. I winced when I heard the suggestion to trap it. It _seems_
really health and eats well, had it 6 months, the MH bulb is new and
recommended by a good supplier. This is my problem: I have heard they
wander a lot so he may not be stressed but there may simply be a lot of
stressed magnificas around!

I think its a great animal- his new home is finished and about to be
delivered, so he doesn't need to go anywhere else: 120 US gal tank, 42 gal
sump. I'm upgrading the skimmer to a Red Sea (? cant recall the model,
deliver next week). It looks like I'll need 2 x 400w MH I guess for that
volume. Maybe 3? It will have no other mechanical filtration other than a
lot of water movement around the LR. My questions are because of the new
tank. There will be enough room for some corals if I keep the anemone on a
high reef , but I don't want to risk other animals with it wandering around
stomping everything to death.

Dave

[hyperoglyphe]

"PaulB" > wrote in message
. com...
> Those are notorious for wandering, and for killing every sessile invert in
> their tanks. My advice is get rid of it and get a BTA.

I admit a sick attraction to it I'm trying to work out a home where its not
going to slaughter every living thing in it. I have a dream: That it sits
on a bare rock in the middle of the tank, with life continuing happily
around it.

I just don't seem to get many people saying "my magnifica hasn't moved in 6
months."

Dave

>
>
> "hyperoglyphe" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I have a H. magnifica that periodically wanders, including time spent on
> the
> > glass. Not a good look. I've tried to make a nice reef for it and
varied
> > the 175 10000K MH location, to no avail. Yesterday it was on the glass,
> > this morning it was back on the reef. The biggest problem is the
> > devastation it leaves behind.
[...]

[CapFusion]

"hyperoglyphe" > wrote in message
...
>
> Fair call. I winced when I heard the suggestion to trap it. It _seems_
> really health and eats well, had it 6 months, the MH bulb is new and
> recommended by a good supplier. This is my problem: I have heard they
> wander a lot so he may not be stressed but there may simply be a lot of
> stressed magnificas around!
>
> I think its a great animal- his new home is finished and about to be
> delivered, so he doesn't need to go anywhere else: 120 US gal tank, 42
gal
> sump. I'm upgrading the skimmer to a Red Sea (? cant recall the model,
> deliver next week). It looks like I'll need 2 x 400w MH I guess for that
> volume. Maybe 3? It will have no other mechanical filtration other than
a
> lot of water movement around the LR. My questions are because of the new
> tank. There will be enough room for some corals if I keep the anemone on
a
> high reef , but I don't want to risk other animals with it wandering
around
> stomping everything to death.

Where does it move to? Does it go out to where there more light? If so, move
it to the top of the LR and see if it stay-put.

CapFusion,...

[hyperoglyphe]

"CapFusion" <CapeFussion...@hotmail..,com> wrote in message
...
>
> "hyperoglyphe" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Fair call. I winced when I heard the suggestion to trap it. It _seems_
> > really health and eats well, had it 6 months, the MH bulb is new and
> > recommended by a good supplier. This is my problem: I have heard they
> > wander a lot so he may not be stressed but there may simply be a lot of
> > stressed magnificas around!
> >
[...]
> > lot of water movement around the LR. My questions are because of the
new
> > tank. There will be enough room for some corals if I keep the anemone
on
> a
> > high reef , but I don't want to risk other animals with it wandering
> around
> > stomping everything to death.
>
> Where does it move to? Does it go out to where there more light? If so,
move
> it to the top of the LR and see if it stay-put.

Today it's on the glass, part of the body on the surface, outside the
direct light zone, part (40%) in direct light. When I move it to the top of
the LR heap he'll stay there for a couple of days then flip back to the
glass. I don't like moving it too often.

In the new tank I'll build the reef up to surface level at the back and
crank up the light.

Dave

[CapFusion]

"hyperoglyphe" > wrote in message
...
> Today it's on the glass, part of the body on the surface, outside the
> direct light zone, part (40%) in direct light. When I move it to the top
of
> the LR heap he'll stay there for a couple of days then flip back to the
> glass. I don't like moving it too often.
>
> In the new tank I'll build the reef up to surface level at the back and
> crank up the light.
>
> Dave
>
>

You might need to check what going on. Meaning how it behave at the time you
notice it. Take note the surround area like current / light intensity etc.
Example.
If it stay at the middle of the glass for the long period of time and seem
to stay there. Then check if there is alot of current and how much or high
to the light. Then move it to the rock work that is close to where it was.
Check on the coral behavior and see if it stay or have some reaction to it.

CapFusion,...