Curing ick

[Gottcha]

I recently had an ick outbreak in my tank and was wondering. If i add kick
ick do i need to take my activated carbon out of my filter? I was told that
it will remove all medications from the water.

[Iain Miller]

"Gottcha" > wrote in message
...
> I recently had an ick outbreak in my tank and was wondering. If i add kick
> ick do i need to take my activated carbon out of my filter? I was told
that
> it will remove all medications from the water.
>


Carbon will take any meds or plant ferts out the water - it works by
absorbtion. However, that also means it has a finite capacity and doesn't
work for very long in reality - maybe 4-6 weeks at most.

Its very useful to have around for removing meds etc when necessary but
generally isn't needed in your filter because it can also remove things that
you don't want to remove (i.e. plant food).

FWIW , the only cure I have ever used for Ich is Protazin by waterlife -
never failed, never lost a fish to it.

rgds

I.

[Jbutterflie]

For my ick I used Aquarium Salt by Jungle and let the temp. stay at
80, I used a small platic ziploc with a few holes and clamped it to
the side of the tank and let it slowly dissipate in the water. The
inverts and neons haven't seemed to mind and they're all doing fine
with the temp the way it is. I haven't had an outbreak yet.





"Gottcha" > wrote in message >...
> I recently had an ick outbreak in my tank and was wondering. If i add kick
> ick do i need to take my activated carbon out of my filter? I was told that
> it will remove all medications from the water.

[Paul Cassidy]

"Gottcha" > wrote in message
>...
> I recently had an ick outbreak in my tank and was wondering. If i add
kick
> ick do i need to take my activated carbon out of my filter? I was told
that
> it will remove all medications from the water.

I had a similar experience. I had some ick in the tank, started treatment
and got nowhere. The ick just got worse. Then I heard about the carbon, took
it out, re treated and it went away almost immedietely. Now it is possible
that it would have gone anyway, but without evidence to the contrary, I now
believe that removing the carbon is best.

[surewest]

Boosting the water temprature during the med treatments
also helps. Seems the parasite goes through it's stages faster
in the 80 temps and kills more of them.





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"Paul Cassidy" > wrote in message
...
> "Gottcha" > wrote in message
> >...
> > I recently had an ick outbreak in my tank and was wondering. If i add
> kick
> > ick do i need to take my activated carbon out of my filter? I was told
> that
> > it will remove all medications from the water.
>
> I had a similar experience. I had some ick in the tank, started treatment
> and got nowhere. The ick just got worse. Then I heard about the carbon,
took
> it out, re treated and it went away almost immedietely. Now it is possible
> that it would have gone anyway, but without evidence to the contrary, I
now
> believe that removing the carbon is best.
>
>

[Uncle Sam]

I've had sucess with taking a fish and droping him into fresh water for 2 or
3 seconds. The different gravity pops the ick where the fish can be
re-introduced back into the tank. I havn't had any loss of stock by doing
this, you hvae to be careful not to leave ur fish in the freshwater too
long though.. they get stressed over it..
Good Luck
"Jbutterflie" > wrote in message
om...
> For my ick I used Aquarium Salt by Jungle and let the temp. stay at
> 80, I used a small platic ziploc with a few holes and clamped it to
> the side of the tank and let it slowly dissipate in the water. The
> inverts and neons haven't seemed to mind and they're all doing fine
> with the temp the way it is. I haven't had an outbreak yet.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Gottcha" > wrote in message
>...
> > I recently had an ick outbreak in my tank and was wondering. If i add
kick
> > ick do i need to take my activated carbon out of my filter? I was told
that
> > it will remove all medications from the water.

[Jeff]

"Uncle Sam" > wrote in message
...
> I've had sucess with taking a fish and droping him into fresh water for 2
or
> 3 seconds. The different gravity pops the ick where the fish can be
> re-introduced back into the tank. I havn't had any loss of stock by doing
> this, you hvae to be careful not to leave ur fish in the freshwater too
> long though.. they get stressed over it..
>
Didn't you just take them out of fresh water?

Jeff82


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[Paul Nolan]

Jeff wrote:
> "Uncle Sam" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>I've had sucess with taking a fish and droping him into fresh water for 2
>
> or
>
>>3 seconds. The different gravity pops the ick where the fish can be
>>re-introduced back into the tank. I havn't had any loss of stock by doing
>>this, you hvae to be careful not to leave ur fish in the freshwater too
>>long though.. they get stressed over it..
>>
>
> Didn't you just take them out of fresh water?
>
Unless it was a marine with white spot...

--
Paul Nolan >
Veni veni venias - ne me mori facias!

[mike d.]

I had three or four fish in a ninety-two gallon tank, and they got ick, and
I treated it(the tank) with the blue copper compound but I didn't remove
any charcoal. I don't know if my charcoal was old and spent, or if it just
didn't stop the action of the copper sulfate, but the fish very quickly &
very completely recovered. Mike.
"Gottcha" > wrote in message
...
>I recently had an ick outbreak in my tank and was wondering. If i add kick
> ick do i need to take my activated carbon out of my filter? I was told
> that
> it will remove all medications from the water.
>
>

[NoSpam]

"mike d." > wrote in message
. ..
>I had three or four fish in a ninety-two gallon tank, and they got
>ick, and I treated it(the tank) with the blue copper compound but I
>didn't remove any charcoal. I don't know if my charcoal was old and
>spent, or if it just didn't stop the action of the copper sulfate,
>but the fish very quickly & very completely recovered. Mike.
> "Gottcha" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I recently had an ick outbreak in my tank and was wondering. If i
>>add kick
>> ick do i need to take my activated carbon out of my filter? I was
>> told that
>> it will remove all medications from the water.

Activated carbon absorbs what it can in about 1 week. Then it is
'used' and will do nothing. You should replace it.

If you had a UV sterilizer and a cleaner shrimp it would be rare that
you get ick in the first place, and if you do just increase the amount
of time the UV light is on.

If you get ick again dip the fish in a separate container of distilled
water or RO/DI water for around 1 minute.

You will NEVER get rid of all the copper (a poison) but do several 50%
water changes and you'll be able to reduce the amount.

3-4 pounds of live sand + whatever amount of white sterilized play
sand (home depot) will give you 100% live sand in around 9 months. For
a 6' tank you'd want a 3" sand bed.

[expat[_2_]]

On Aug 25, 1:51*pm, "NoSpam" > wrote:
> "mike d." > wrote in message
>
> . ..
>
> >I had three or four fish in a ninety-two gallon tank, and they got
> >ick, and I treated it(the tank) with the blue copper compound *but I
> >didn't remove any charcoal. I don't know if my charcoal was old and
> >spent, or if it just didn't stop the action of the copper sulfate,
> >but the fish very quickly & very completely *recovered. *Mike.
> > "Gottcha" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>I recently had an ick outbreak in my tank and was wondering. If i
> >>add kick
> >> ick do i need to take my activated carbon out of my filter? I was
> >> told that
> >> it will remove all medications from the water.
>
> Activated carbon absorbs what it can in about 1 week. Then it is
> 'used' and will do nothing. You should replace it.
>
> If you had a UV sterilizer and a cleaner shrimp it would be rare that
> you get ick in the first place, and if you do just increase the amount
> of time the UV light is on.
>
> If you get ick again dip the fish in a separate container of distilled
> water or RO/DI water for around 1 minute.
>
> You will NEVER get rid of all the copper (a poison) but do several 50%
> water changes and you'll be able to reduce the amount.
>
> 3-4 pounds of live sand + whatever amount of white sterilized play
> sand (home depot) will give you 100% live sand in around 9 months. For
> a 6' tank you'd want a 3" sand bed.

Putting vcoper in a marine fish tank is bad to do. A quick and simple
dip in RODI water that is preferablly temp and PH matched tothe tanks
water is a very effective way to fix an ICH problem. Use a separate
tank or container to use for the dip of about 1 or 2 minutes. I let em
in for as long as possible or up till the fish starts to stress out. I
also like to keep the tank free of any fish for a couple of weeks as
well after the infected fish are removed in additon to healthy fish as
without a host the ich parasite will die. It pays to have a basic bare
hospital or quarantine tank with fresh or salt water fish.

Odds are you may have problems if you ever decide to have any inverts
with the copper that is in any live rock or silicone seals, but if its
a fish only tank its not a problem other than the usual staining of
the silicone seals. When you dip a marine fish with ICH in freshwater
you can literally see the parasites
"explode and drop off the fish"

[John Smith[_2_]]

expat wrote:

> ...
> Putting vcoper in a marine fish tank is bad to do. A quick and simple
> dip in RODI water that is preferablly temp and PH matched tothe tanks
> water is a very effective way to fix an ICH problem. Use a separate
> tank or container to use for the dip of about 1 or 2 minutes. I let em
> in for as long as possible or up till the fish starts to stress out. I
> also like to keep the tank free of any fish for a couple of weeks as
> well after the infected fish are removed in additon to healthy fish as
> without a host the ich parasite will die. It pays to have a basic bare
> hospital or quarantine tank with fresh or salt water fish.
>
> Odds are you may have problems if you ever decide to have any inverts
> with the copper that is in any live rock or silicone seals, but if its
> a fish only tank its not a problem other than the usual staining of
> the silicone seals. When you dip a marine fish with ICH in freshwater
> you can literally see the parasites
> "explode and drop off the fish"

I think they refer to the above as "The Fools Cure", in honor of you ...
8-)

Most people would use a hospital tank to limit the amount of expensive
meds used, save non-ill fish from having to suffer treatment, etc.

But with a fool, such as yourself, anything probably goes ... :-(

Perhaps you and your gay buddies can use the Reverse Osmosis -
De-Ionized water for your daily enemas, instead?

The only, re-occuring, problem I have found in news groups is the
worthless-brain-dead postings done by gay-inbreeding-georgians, such as
expat (attempts to claim it is an "ex-pathetic-fool", or just shortened
to "expat." -- Others claim he makes it attempt to stand for
"ex-pathetic retard.")

Any using these news groups will have to learn how to filter his posts ...

Regards,
JS


Regards,
JS

[Peter Pan[_2_]]

A hospital tank is what is needed when treating a fish who is sick with
any illness. You don't want to infect the other fishes in the tank. Ick
is caused by stress to the fish. A hospital tank is also useful when
buying a new fish and getting him acclimated before he goes in the main
tank, also to make sure he's not sick and bringing a disease into your tank
A fresh water dip will cure the fish of the ick right away. A cleaner
shrimp will also cure the fish,but may take a bit longer. A U.V.
sterilizer? from everything I've read, is not recommenced in reef
environment. It will kill ALL bacteria even the the ones you want in
the tank.
Sometimes doing a little research on you own, will answer the very
question you seek to answer.

[no-spam]

This method is not practical, it sounds good in theory. The biggest pitfall
with this method is that you have to first catch the fish from the tank, and
catching them is not easy unless you have a bare bottom tank, no coral, no
landscaping.


"expat" > wrote in message
...
>Putting vcoper in a marine fish tank is bad to do. A quick and simple
>dip in RODI water that is preferablly temp and PH matched tothe tanks
>water is a very effective way to fix an ICH problem. Use a separate
>tank or container to use for the dip of about 1 or 2 minutes. I let em
>in for as long as possible or up till the fish starts to stress out. I
>also like to keep the tank free of any fish for a couple of weeks as
>well after the infected fish are removed in additon to healthy fish as
>without a host the ich parasite will die. It pays to have a basic bare
>hospital or quarantine tank with fresh or salt water fish.
>
>Odds are you may have problems if you ever decide to have any inverts
>with the copper that is in any live rock or silicone seals, but if its
>a fish only tank its not a problem other than the usual staining of
>the silicone seals. When you dip a marine fish with ICH in freshwater
>you can literally see the parasites
>"explode and drop off the fish"

[expat[_2_]]

On Aug 27, 10:09*pm, "no-spam" > wrote:
> This method is not practical, it sounds good in theory. The biggest pitfall
> with this method is that you have to first catch the fish from the tank, and
> catching them is not easy unless you have a bare bottom tank, no coral, no
> landscaping.
>
> "expat" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> >Putting vcoper in a marine fish tank is bad to do. A quick and simple
> >dip in RODI water that is preferablly temp and PH matched tothe tanks
> >water is a very effective way to fix an ICH problem. Use a separate
> >tank or container to use for the dip of about 1 or 2 minutes. I let em
> >in for as long as possible or up till the fish starts to stress out. I
> >also like to keep the tank free of any fish for a couple of weeks as
> >well after the infected fish are removed in additon to healthy fish as
> >without a host the ich parasite will die. It pays to have a basic bare
> >hospital or quarantine tank with fresh or salt water fish.
>
> >Odds are you may have problems if you ever decide to have any inverts
> >with the copper that is in any live rock or silicone seals, but if its
> >a fish only tank its not a problem other than the usual staining of
> >the silicone seals. When you dip a marine fish *with ICH in freshwater
> >you can literally see the parasites
> >"explode and drop off the fish"- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Whats so hard about catching a fish,. Evidently the fish is smarter
than you are as I have never had any problems catching any fish I had
a need to catch. All it takes is having a higher IQ than the fish so
you can out wit it.......Pretty simple IMHO. Makes it no more
difficult in a bare bottom or a reef tank. There is lots of various
ways to catch them, all without a problem..maybe a bit time consuming
with some, but still 110% doable.