Plant type in refugium

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Guys,

Being a newbee, I've been lurking in here and absorbing as much
knowldge as possible so for.

I was wondering, in my battle to rid my tank of the current 10ppm
Nitrates, if converting my Amiracle Maxireef 200 w/d filter to a sump
with LR and plants would assist me in getting control of the Nitrates.
I am considering either dumping the w/d filter and building/purchasing
a nice size sump, or converting my w/d to a sump. The question is,
what types of plants, if any, would I place in the sump? I've read
and seen Marc's page on sumps, which points out LR in the sump, but
didn't see much about plants.

thanks in advance,
Oc

[Simon O'Keeffe]

Some nice macro algae or a tray for some micro algae to grow on would
work fine.
Your idea is a good one and your tank will be better for it.
Some light is required over the sump if you are to grow nice algae,
something like a cheapo 250w halide or some other type of HID lighting,
you don't need aquarium based bulbs just hydroponic grow lights so this
cut's the cost by a large amount. There is also a lot of hydroponic gear
for sale second hand if your that way inclined.
Simon



wrote:

>Guys,
>
>Being a newbee, I've been lurking in here and absorbing as much
>knowldge as possible so for.
>
>I was wondering, in my battle to rid my tank of the current 10ppm
>Nitrates, if converting my Amiracle Maxireef 200 w/d filter to a sump
>with LR and plants would assist me in getting control of the Nitrates.
>I am considering either dumping the w/d filter and building/purchasing
>a nice size sump, or converting my w/d to a sump. The question is,
>what types of plants, if any, would I place in the sump? I've read
>and seen Marc's page on sumps, which points out LR in the sump, but
>didn't see much about plants.
>
>thanks in advance,
>Oc
>
>
>

[Oc Rodriguez]

Simon,

Thanks for the info. My current tank info is as follows:

100 Gal Plexi
2x1" bottom drilled overflows
Amiracle MaxiReef 200 + Rio 20 Hyperflow
AETech Evolution 500 Skimmer + Mag 9.5
48" Power Compact Lights on 12 hrs

Current water param's

Ammonia = 0
Nitrite = 0
Nitrate = 10
PH = 8.2
Calcium = 480
Phosphate = 0
Silica = 2
Temp = 77.8

Livestock
2 x False Clown Anemonefish
2 x Three-spot Damselfish
3 x Blue Damsel
2 x Green Chromis
1 x Sand Sifting Star
1 x Burgundy Linkia Star
3 x Turbo Snails



On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 10:39:44 +1000, Simon O'Keeffe
> wrote:

>Some nice macro algae or a tray for some micro algae to grow on would
>work fine.
>Your idea is a good one and your tank will be better for it.
>Some light is required over the sump if you are to grow nice algae,
>something like a cheapo 250w halide or some other type of HID lighting,
>you don't need aquarium based bulbs just hydroponic grow lights so this
>cut's the cost by a large amount. There is also a lot of hydroponic gear
>for sale second hand if your that way inclined.
>Simon
>
>
>
wrote:
>
>>Guys,
>>
>>Being a newbee, I've been lurking in here and absorbing as much
>>knowldge as possible so for.
>>
>>I was wondering, in my battle to rid my tank of the current 10ppm
>>Nitrates, if converting my Amiracle Maxireef 200 w/d filter to a sump
>>with LR and plants would assist me in getting control of the Nitrates.
>>I am considering either dumping the w/d filter and building/purchasing
>>a nice size sump, or converting my w/d to a sump. The question is,
>>what types of plants, if any, would I place in the sump? I've read
>>and seen Marc's page on sumps, which points out LR in the sump, but
>>didn't see much about plants.
>>
>>thanks in advance,
>>Oc
>>
>>
>>

[CapFusion]

"Oc Rodriguez" > wrote in message
...
> Simon,
>
> Thanks for the info. My current tank info is as follows:
>
> 100 Gal Plexi
> 2x1" bottom drilled overflows
> Amiracle MaxiReef 200 + Rio 20 Hyperflow
> AETech Evolution 500 Skimmer + Mag 9.5
> 48" Power Compact Lights on 12 hrs
>
> Current water param's
>
> Ammonia = 0
> Nitrite = 0
> Nitrate = 10
> PH = 8.2
> Calcium = 480
> Phosphate = 0
> Silica = 2
> Temp = 77.8
>
> Livestock
> 2 x False Clown Anemonefish
> 2 x Three-spot Damselfish
> 3 x Blue Damsel
> 2 x Green Chromis
> 1 x Sand Sifting Star
> 1 x Burgundy Linkia Star
> 3 x Turbo Snails
>

When you remove and convert your W/D to sump, nitrate should normally
decrease. Add light to promote algae growth in the sump.

CapFusion,...

[Marc Levenson]

I use Cheatomorpha.
http://melevsreef.com/id/cheato.html

And this 19w bulb will do the job, for a total of $15 with the clamping
light socket:
http://www.melevsreef.com/fuge_bulb.html

Marc


Oc Rodriguez wrote:

> Simon,
>
> Thanks for the info. My current tank info is as follows:
>
> 100 Gal Plexi
> 2x1" bottom drilled overflows
> Amiracle MaxiReef 200 + Rio 20 Hyperflow
> AETech Evolution 500 Skimmer + Mag 9.5
> 48" Power Compact Lights on 12 hrs
>
> Current water param's
>
> Ammonia = 0
> Nitrite = 0
> Nitrate = 10
> PH = 8.2
> Calcium = 480
> Phosphate = 0
> Silica = 2
> Temp = 77.8
>
> Livestock
> 2 x False Clown Anemonefish
> 2 x Three-spot Damselfish
> 3 x Blue Damsel
> 2 x Green Chromis
> 1 x Sand Sifting Star
> 1 x Burgundy Linkia Star
> 3 x Turbo Snails
>
>
>
> On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 10:39:44 +1000, Simon O'Keeffe
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Some nice macro algae or a tray for some micro algae to grow on would
>>work fine.
>>Your idea is a good one and your tank will be better for it.
>>Some light is required over the sump if you are to grow nice algae,
>>something like a cheapo 250w halide or some other type of HID lighting,
>>you don't need aquarium based bulbs just hydroponic grow lights so this
>>cut's the cost by a large amount. There is also a lot of hydroponic gear
>>for sale second hand if your that way inclined.
>>Simon
>>
>>
>>
wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Guys,
>>>
>>>Being a newbee, I've been lurking in here and absorbing as much
>>>knowldge as possible so for.
>>>
>>>I was wondering, in my battle to rid my tank of the current 10ppm
>>>Nitrates, if converting my Amiracle Maxireef 200 w/d filter to a sump
>>>with LR and plants would assist me in getting control of the Nitrates.
>>>I am considering either dumping the w/d filter and building/purchasing
>>>a nice size sump, or converting my w/d to a sump. The question is,
>>>what types of plants, if any, would I place in the sump? I've read
>>>and seen Marc's page on sumps, which points out LR in the sump, but
>>>didn't see much about plants.
>>>
>>>thanks in advance,
>>>Oc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>

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[Oc Rodriguez]

Thanks for the info. Here is my current dilema:

I have about 25 pounds of live rock in my tank and my w/d filter. I
hope to begin building my sump/refugium this weekend, at which time I
will populate the sump with live sand. The problem is I don't have
the funds to go out and get 100 pounds of new live rock. The question
here is, can I remove the current w/d, install my sump with live sand,
and place some Cheatomorpha in the refugium side without having my
A/N/N go way up? If so, done deal, if not, i have to wait another few
months to install the refugium.

thanks,
Oc

On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 09:35:55 -0700, "CapFusion"
<CapeFussion...@hotmail.., com> wrote:

>
>"Oc Rodriguez" > wrote in message
...
>> Simon,
>>
>> Thanks for the info. My current tank info is as follows:
>>
>> 100 Gal Plexi
>> 2x1" bottom drilled overflows
>> Amiracle MaxiReef 200 + Rio 20 Hyperflow
>> AETech Evolution 500 Skimmer + Mag 9.5
>> 48" Power Compact Lights on 12 hrs
>>
>> Current water param's
>>
>> Ammonia = 0
>> Nitrite = 0
>> Nitrate = 10
>> PH = 8.2
>> Calcium = 480
>> Phosphate = 0
>> Silica = 2
>> Temp = 77.8
>>
>> Livestock
>> 2 x False Clown Anemonefish
>> 2 x Three-spot Damselfish
>> 3 x Blue Damsel
>> 2 x Green Chromis
>> 1 x Sand Sifting Star
>> 1 x Burgundy Linkia Star
>> 3 x Turbo Snails
>>
>
>When you remove and convert your W/D to sump, nitrate should normally
>decrease. Add light to promote algae growth in the sump.
>
>CapFusion,...
>

[Oc Rodriguez]

Marc,

Thanks for the info. The Cheatomorpha is next on my acquisition list.
BTW, did you get the email I sent you regarding my sump design? It
would have come from my work account.



On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 18:41:10 GMT, Marc Levenson
> wrote:

>I use Cheatomorpha.
>http://melevsreef.com/id/cheato.html
>
>And this 19w bulb will do the job, for a total of $15 with the clamping
>light socket:
>http://www.melevsreef.com/fuge_bulb.html
>
>Marc
>
>
>Oc Rodriguez wrote:
>
>> Simon,
>>
>> Thanks for the info. My current tank info is as follows:
>>
>> 100 Gal Plexi
>> 2x1" bottom drilled overflows
>> Amiracle MaxiReef 200 + Rio 20 Hyperflow
>> AETech Evolution 500 Skimmer + Mag 9.5
>> 48" Power Compact Lights on 12 hrs
>>
>> Current water param's
>>
>> Ammonia = 0
>> Nitrite = 0
>> Nitrate = 10
>> PH = 8.2
>> Calcium = 480
>> Phosphate = 0
>> Silica = 2
>> Temp = 77.8
>>
>> Livestock
>> 2 x False Clown Anemonefish
>> 2 x Three-spot Damselfish
>> 3 x Blue Damsel
>> 2 x Green Chromis
>> 1 x Sand Sifting Star
>> 1 x Burgundy Linkia Star
>> 3 x Turbo Snails
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 10:39:44 +1000, Simon O'Keeffe
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Some nice macro algae or a tray for some micro algae to grow on would
>>>work fine.
>>>Your idea is a good one and your tank will be better for it.
>>>Some light is required over the sump if you are to grow nice algae,
>>>something like a cheapo 250w halide or some other type of HID lighting,
>>>you don't need aquarium based bulbs just hydroponic grow lights so this
>>>cut's the cost by a large amount. There is also a lot of hydroponic gear
>>>for sale second hand if your that way inclined.
>>>Simon
>>>
>>>
>>>
wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Guys,
>>>>
>>>>Being a newbee, I've been lurking in here and absorbing as much
>>>>knowldge as possible so for.
>>>>
>>>>I was wondering, in my battle to rid my tank of the current 10ppm
>>>>Nitrates, if converting my Amiracle Maxireef 200 w/d filter to a sump
>>>>with LR and plants would assist me in getting control of the Nitrates.
>>>>I am considering either dumping the w/d filter and building/purchasing
>>>>a nice size sump, or converting my w/d to a sump. The question is,
>>>>what types of plants, if any, would I place in the sump? I've read
>>>>and seen Marc's page on sumps, which points out LR in the sump, but
>>>>didn't see much about plants.
>>>>
>>>>thanks in advance,
>>>>Oc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>

[CapFusion]

"Oc Rodriguez" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks for the info. Here is my current dilema:
>
> I have about 25 pounds of live rock in my tank and my w/d filter. I
> hope to begin building my sump/refugium this weekend, at which time I
> will populate the sump with live sand. The problem is I don't have
> the funds to go out and get 100 pounds of new live rock. The question
> here is, can I remove the current w/d, install my sump with live sand,
> and place some Cheatomorpha in the refugium side without having my
> A/N/N go way up? If so, done deal, if not, i have to wait another few
> months to install the refugium.
>

Just use the same water from the main tank to your sump should be no
problem.
Moving your LS to your sump should fine and may spike a bit. But should be
back to normal if there no die-off during the transport.

CapFusion,...

[Oc Rodriguez]

CapFusion,

Just what I wanted to hear. Thank you very much.

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:59:11 -0700, "CapFusion"
<CapeFussion...@hotmail.., com> wrote:

>
>"Oc Rodriguez" > wrote in message
...
>> Thanks for the info. Here is my current dilema:
>>
>> I have about 25 pounds of live rock in my tank and my w/d filter. I
>> hope to begin building my sump/refugium this weekend, at which time I
>> will populate the sump with live sand. The problem is I don't have
>> the funds to go out and get 100 pounds of new live rock. The question
>> here is, can I remove the current w/d, install my sump with live sand,
>> and place some Cheatomorpha in the refugium side without having my
>> A/N/N go way up? If so, done deal, if not, i have to wait another few
>> months to install the refugium.
>>
>
>Just use the same water from the main tank to your sump should be no
>problem.
>Moving your LS to your sump should fine and may spike a bit. But should be
>back to normal if there no die-off during the transport.
>
>CapFusion,...
>
>

[Marc Levenson]

Maybe. I've got about 60 emails waiting for me to answer currently.

Marc


Oc Rodriguez wrote:

> Marc,
>
> Thanks for the info. The Cheatomorpha is next on my acquisition list.
> BTW, did you get the email I sent you regarding my sump design? It
> would have come from my work account.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 18:41:10 GMT, Marc Levenson
> > wrote:
>
>
>>I use Cheatomorpha.
>>http://melevsreef.com/id/cheato.html
>>
>>And this 19w bulb will do the job, for a total of $15 with the clamping
>>light socket:
>>http://www.melevsreef.com/fuge_bulb.html
>>
>>Marc
>>
>>
>>Oc Rodriguez wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Simon,
>>>
>>>Thanks for the info. My current tank info is as follows:
>>>
>>>100 Gal Plexi
>>>2x1" bottom drilled overflows
>>>Amiracle MaxiReef 200 + Rio 20 Hyperflow
>>>AETech Evolution 500 Skimmer + Mag 9.5
>>>48" Power Compact Lights on 12 hrs
>>>
>>>Current water param's
>>>
>>>Ammonia = 0
>>>Nitrite = 0
>>>Nitrate = 10
>>>PH = 8.2
>>>Calcium = 480
>>>Phosphate = 0
>>>Silica = 2
>>>Temp = 77.8
>>>
>>>Livestock
>>>2 x False Clown Anemonefish
>>>2 x Three-spot Damselfish
>>>3 x Blue Damsel
>>>2 x Green Chromis
>>>1 x Sand Sifting Star
>>>1 x Burgundy Linkia Star
>>>3 x Turbo Snails
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 10:39:44 +1000, Simon O'Keeffe
> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Some nice macro algae or a tray for some micro algae to grow on would
>>>>work fine.
>>>>Your idea is a good one and your tank will be better for it.
>>>>Some light is required over the sump if you are to grow nice algae,
>>>>something like a cheapo 250w halide or some other type of HID lighting,
>>>>you don't need aquarium based bulbs just hydroponic grow lights so this
>>>>cut's the cost by a large amount. There is also a lot of hydroponic gear
>>>>for sale second hand if your that way inclined.
>>>>Simon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Guys,
>>>>>
>>>>>Being a newbee, I've been lurking in here and absorbing as much
>>>>>knowldge as possible so for.
>>>>>
>>>>>I was wondering, in my battle to rid my tank of the current 10ppm
>>>>>Nitrates, if converting my Amiracle Maxireef 200 w/d filter to a sump
>>>>>with LR and plants would assist me in getting control of the Nitrates.
>>>>>I am considering either dumping the w/d filter and building/purchasing
>>>>>a nice size sump, or converting my w/d to a sump. The question is,
>>>>>what types of plants, if any, would I place in the sump? I've read
>>>>>and seen Marc's page on sumps, which points out LR in the sump, but
>>>>>didn't see much about plants.
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks in advance,
>>>>>Oc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

--
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Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com

[CapFusion]

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
. ..
> Maybe. I've got about 60 emails waiting for me to answer currently.
>

Huh?? Love letter from eHormony? Heheeh.

CapFusion,...

[Marc Levenson]

Nope, just a lot of questions I keep avoiding because they aren't quick
answers. ;)

Marc


CapFusion wrote:

> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> . ..
>
>>Maybe. I've got about 60 emails waiting for me to answer currently.
>>
>
>
> Huh?? Love letter from eHormony? Heheeh.
>
> CapFusion,...
>
>

--
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