can i shrink my 60 gal to a 10?

[wolf]

i was wondering if anybody thinks i would have any luck, taking my favorite
stuff out of this 6o gal, and trying to keep a mini reef, say, 10-15 gals? i
would be using a 6 gal refugoum/or wet-dry preferable a refuge, but will be
in a trailer for a few months, hehehehehehehehehehe.

sincerely,
addicted to tanks.

[~Roy~]

Sure, its a very common thing today to keep what is called NANO and
PICO and even MICRO PICO sized tanks. Just treat em like a large
tank, and stock em with critters and live rock. Probably the bigest
problem most folks have is temp control, but its still
doable..........We have a heap of PICO and NANO and a few MICRO sized
tanks all over our house, and to be honest, they are not any more
work.

On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:17:49 GMT, "wolf" ">
wrote:
>><>i was wondering if anybody thinks i would have any luck, taking my favorite
>><>stuff out of this 6o gal, and trying to keep a mini reef, say, 10-15 gals? i
>><>would be using a 6 gal refugoum/or wet-dry preferable a refuge, but will be
>><>in a trailer for a few months, hehehehehehehehehehe.
>><>
>><>sincerely,
>><>addicted to tanks.
>><>

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The original frugal ponder ! Koi-ahoi mates....

[wolf]

i have a 6gal refugium which was or basically is a big wet/dry converted.
is there a way i can eliminate that (store it) and get a cheaper small
filter that will work? i just want to keep the good stuff alive...


"~Roy~" > wrote in message
...
> Sure, its a very common thing today to keep what is called NANO and
> PICO and even MICRO PICO sized tanks. Just treat em like a large
> tank, and stock em with critters and live rock. Probably the bigest
> problem most folks have is temp control, but its still
> doable..........We have a heap of PICO and NANO and a few MICRO sized
> tanks all over our house, and to be honest, they are not any more
> work.
>
> On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:17:49 GMT, "wolf" ">
> wrote:
>>><>i was wondering if anybody thinks i would have any luck, taking my
>>>favorite
>>><>stuff out of this 6o gal, and trying to keep a mini reef, say, 10-15
>>>gals? i
>>><>would be using a 6 gal refugoum/or wet-dry preferable a refuge, but
>>>will be
>>><>in a trailer for a few months, hehehehehehehehehehe.
>>><>
>>><>sincerely,
>>><>addicted to tanks.
>>><>
>
> --
> \\\|///
> ( @ @ )
> -----------oOOo(_)oOOo---------------
>
>
> oooO
> ---------( )----Oooo----------------
> \ ( ( )
> \_) ) /
> (_/
> The original frugal ponder ! Koi-ahoi mates....

[steve]

What's wrong with a trailer?
--
See my web site
http://web.tampabay.rr.com/myreef/


"wolf" "> wrote in message
k.net...
>i was wondering if anybody thinks i would have any luck, taking my favorite
>stuff out of this 6o gal, and trying to keep a mini reef, say, 10-15 gals?
>i would be using a 6 gal refugoum/or wet-dry preferable a refuge, but will
>be in a trailer for a few months, hehehehehehehehehehe.
>
> sincerely,
> addicted to tanks.
>

[wolf]

oh, the size, its a 21ft. and its full already, so very unfeasible, shows
the addiction, hehe..

"steve" > wrote in message
...
> What's wrong with a trailer?
> --
> See my web site
> http://web.tampabay.rr.com/myreef/
>
>
> "wolf" "> wrote in message
> k.net...
>>i was wondering if anybody thinks i would have any luck, taking my
>>favorite stuff out of this 6o gal, and trying to keep a mini reef, say,
>>10-15 gals? i would be using a 6 gal refugoum/or wet-dry preferable a
>>refuge, but will be in a trailer for a few months, hehehehehehehehehehe.
>>
>> sincerely,
>> addicted to tanks.
>>
>
>

[~Roy~]

Yep, get an Aqua Clear hob powerfilter. Go with the arger filter model
AC110. Its more than sufficient flow for a small tank and is rated at
110 gal tank size and its adjustable. Its a workhorse with a lifetime
warranty and can be had for $33 from Bigalsonline.com You wll pay
double or triple that price at most LFS for the same filter.

Take the filter and pull out the removeable filter basket assembly.
Unclip the side pioeces to the basket assembly so yu have three
individual pieceso that used to be a filter basket.No tools required
for this step....as the sides clip into the bottom.

Take the bottom piece and cut it to length and width so it fits across
the entire outflow spillway, right at where water starts to spill out
of the filters case. This makes a snail / fish guard. Save remaining
piece of the bottom for further mod to baffles that are needed.

Take that left over piece of bottom material and cut it to length of
the one side panel, and make it approx 1 to 1.25" overall width. YOur
side piece will mount on it opposite of what it was oriignally as you
had to cut it to length and width, but you need a piece roughly 1" x
3". Snap both end pieces into this bottom piece and what you now have
is a "filter basket like before only about 1" or so wide. Snip off the
loops at the top that is used tp pull basket up as they are not
needed. NOw slide this narrowed basket back down just like it was a
full sized basket and place it at the pump side of filter case, but
keep it about 1/4" away fromn actually allowoing the long slot in the
side panel from snapping on the pump impeller cover. Use a hot glue
gun to tack snail / fish guard in place, and also the new filter
basket inplace making sure the one side is approx 1/4" away from the
portion the impeller is in. ONce its all fit and tacked in place, use
marine goop (do not use silicone) to run a few dabs of it to make a
permanent bond. It need not be water tight, just use beads here and
there to make sure it stays in place, and put aside for 24 hours to
allow marine goop to fully dry...


In the meantime take the big block of white filter foam and cut it so
it fits in the new filter basket, but make it stand up vertically, not
laying down and only covering the bottom like it originally was. This
will filter (mechanically) water flowing out from pump for the entire
height of the baffles you made, as well as allow some flow underneath
the small bottom piece of filter basket material you have on the
bottom of the side panels, thats now glued in the tank. A 1" thick
piece the width of the filter and as high or perhaps a bit higher than
the baffles themselves is sufficient, so yuou can get two foam filters
out of that block if you cut it right.

YOu can put a bag of carbon in that filter basket are, or the foam
sponge or even stand a heater vertically in it, or place a submersible
heater layaing down horizontally in the larger fuge are of the hob
filter. Do not put sand in the fuge, just use live rock rubble and
macro algae. YOu will get some sand over time and for the most part it
is fine with whatever gets sucked up and deposited into the fuge
area....They work great and in a small tank of up to say 15 or so gal
it eliminates the need for additonal powerheads most times, due to its
volumne and width of water outflow.

By keeping that one side of the narrow filter basket/baffle assembly
away from the raised portion the motor and pump is mounted in, it
allows you to ppull up that pump impeller cover to access the
impeller if need be. If the basket is snapped on that tab in the slot
and glued in place it is impossible to lift that impeller cover out,
and then you need to drain the fuge to remove motor to get to
impeller.

An AC110 will add approximately 1.5 gal additional water to your
system and no worries of overflow, and they are adjustable.

Have fun or nay questions just ask

Regards




On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:25:38 GMT, "wolf" ">
wrote:
>><>i have a 6gal refugium which was or basically is a big wet/dry converted.
>><>is there a way i can eliminate that (store it) and get a cheaper small
>><>filter that will work? i just want to keep the good stuff alive...
>><>
>><>
>><>"~Roy~" > wrote in message
...
>><>> Sure, its a very common thing today to keep what is called NANO and
>><>> PICO and even MICRO PICO sized tanks. Just treat em like a large
>><>> tank, and stock em with critters and live rock. Probably the bigest
>><>> problem most folks have is temp control, but its still
>><>> doable..........We have a heap of PICO and NANO and a few MICRO sized
>><>> tanks all over our house, and to be honest, they are not any more
>><>> work.
>><>>
>><>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:17:49 GMT, "wolf" ">
>><>> wrote:
>><>>>><>i was wondering if anybody thinks i would have any luck, taking my
>><>>>>favorite
>><>>>><>stuff out of this 6o gal, and trying to keep a mini reef, say, 10-15
>><>>>>gals? i
>><>>>><>would be using a 6 gal refugoum/or wet-dry preferable a refuge, but
>><>>>>will be
>><>>>><>in a trailer for a few months, hehehehehehehehehehe.
>><>>>><>
>><>>>><>sincerely,
>><>>>><>addicted to tanks.
>><>>>><>
>><>>
>><>> --
>><>> \\\|///
>><>> ( @ @ )
>><>> -----------oOOo(_)oOOo---------------
>><>>
>><>>
>><>> oooO
>><>> ---------( )----Oooo----------------
>><>> \ ( ( )
>><>> \_) ) /
>><>> (_/
>><>> The original frugal ponder ! Koi-ahoi mates....
>><>

--
\\\|///
( @ @ )
-----------oOOo(_)oOOo---------------


oooO
---------( )----Oooo----------------
\ ( ( )
\_) ) /
(_/
The original frugal ponder ! Koi-ahoi mates....

[wolf]

I might do that. looks like a good idea. gotta dismantle this tank now, if
it hasnt sold, of course i hope it hasnt.
even if it does, im keeping a few rocks, and a few good scoops of sand,
hehe.

ill be back in a a day or two. keep the comments and suggestions coming, i
dont want to let go of all this stuff... thanks.

"~Roy~" > wrote in message
...
> Yep, get an Aqua Clear hob powerfilter. Go with the arger filter model
> AC110. Its more than sufficient flow for a small tank and is rated at
> 110 gal tank size and its adjustable. Its a workhorse with a lifetime
> warranty and can be had for $33 from Bigalsonline.com You wll pay
> double or triple that price at most LFS for the same filter.
>
> Take the filter and pull out the removeable filter basket assembly.
> Unclip the side pioeces to the basket assembly so yu have three
> individual pieceso that used to be a filter basket.No tools required
> for this step....as the sides clip into the bottom.
>
> Take the bottom piece and cut it to length and width so it fits across
> the entire outflow spillway, right at where water starts to spill out
> of the filters case. This makes a snail / fish guard. Save remaining
> piece of the bottom for further mod to baffles that are needed.
>
> Take that left over piece of bottom material and cut it to length of
> the one side panel, and make it approx 1 to 1.25" overall width. YOur
> side piece will mount on it opposite of what it was oriignally as you
> had to cut it to length and width, but you need a piece roughly 1" x
> 3". Snap both end pieces into this bottom piece and what you now have
> is a "filter basket like before only about 1" or so wide. Snip off the
> loops at the top that is used tp pull basket up as they are not
> needed. NOw slide this narrowed basket back down just like it was a
> full sized basket and place it at the pump side of filter case, but
> keep it about 1/4" away fromn actually allowoing the long slot in the
> side panel from snapping on the pump impeller cover. Use a hot glue
> gun to tack snail / fish guard in place, and also the new filter
> basket inplace making sure the one side is approx 1/4" away from the
> portion the impeller is in. ONce its all fit and tacked in place, use
> marine goop (do not use silicone) to run a few dabs of it to make a
> permanent bond. It need not be water tight, just use beads here and
> there to make sure it stays in place, and put aside for 24 hours to
> allow marine goop to fully dry...
>
>
> In the meantime take the big block of white filter foam and cut it so
> it fits in the new filter basket, but make it stand up vertically, not
> laying down and only covering the bottom like it originally was. This
> will filter (mechanically) water flowing out from pump for the entire
> height of the baffles you made, as well as allow some flow underneath
> the small bottom piece of filter basket material you have on the
> bottom of the side panels, thats now glued in the tank. A 1" thick
> piece the width of the filter and as high or perhaps a bit higher than
> the baffles themselves is sufficient, so yuou can get two foam filters
> out of that block if you cut it right.
>
> YOu can put a bag of carbon in that filter basket are, or the foam
> sponge or even stand a heater vertically in it, or place a submersible
> heater layaing down horizontally in the larger fuge are of the hob
> filter. Do not put sand in the fuge, just use live rock rubble and
> macro algae. YOu will get some sand over time and for the most part it
> is fine with whatever gets sucked up and deposited into the fuge
> area....They work great and in a small tank of up to say 15 or so gal
> it eliminates the need for additonal powerheads most times, due to its
> volumne and width of water outflow.
>
> By keeping that one side of the narrow filter basket/baffle assembly
> away from the raised portion the motor and pump is mounted in, it
> allows you to ppull up that pump impeller cover to access the
> impeller if need be. If the basket is snapped on that tab in the slot
> and glued in place it is impossible to lift that impeller cover out,
> and then you need to drain the fuge to remove motor to get to
> impeller.
>
> An AC110 will add approximately 1.5 gal additional water to your
> system and no worries of overflow, and they are adjustable.
>
> Have fun or nay questions just ask
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:25:38 GMT, "wolf" ">
> wrote:
>>><>i have a 6gal refugium which was or basically is a big wet/dry
>>>converted.
>>><>is there a way i can eliminate that (store it) and get a cheaper small
>>><>filter that will work? i just want to keep the good stuff alive...
>>><>
>>><>
>>><>"~Roy~" > wrote in message
...
>>><>> Sure, its a very common thing today to keep what is called NANO and
>>><>> PICO and even MICRO PICO sized tanks. Just treat em like a large
>>><>> tank, and stock em with critters and live rock. Probably the bigest
>>><>> problem most folks have is temp control, but its still
>>><>> doable..........We have a heap of PICO and NANO and a few MICRO sized
>>><>> tanks all over our house, and to be honest, they are not any more
>>><>> work.
>>><>>
>>><>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:17:49 GMT, "wolf"
">
>>><>> wrote:
>>><>>>><>i was wondering if anybody thinks i would have any luck, taking my
>>><>>>>favorite
>>><>>>><>stuff out of this 6o gal, and trying to keep a mini reef, say,
>>>10-15
>>><>>>>gals? i
>>><>>>><>would be using a 6 gal refugoum/or wet-dry preferable a refuge,
>>>but
>>><>>>>will be
>>><>>>><>in a trailer for a few months, hehehehehehehehehehe.
>>><>>>><>
>>><>>>><>sincerely,
>>><>>>><>addicted to tanks.
>>><>>>><>
>>><>>
>>><>> --
>>><>> \\\|///
>>><>> ( @ @ )
>>><>> -----------oOOo(_)oOOo---------------
>>><>>
>>><>>
>>><>> oooO
>>><>> ---------( )----Oooo----------------
>>><>> \ ( ( )
>>><>> \_) ) /
>>><>> (_/
>>><>> The original frugal ponder ! Koi-ahoi mates....
>>><>
>
> --
> \\\|///
> ( @ @ )
> -----------oOOo(_)oOOo---------------
>
>
> oooO
> ---------( )----Oooo----------------
> \ ( ( )
> \_) ) /
> (_/
> The original frugal ponder ! Koi-ahoi mates....

[wolf]

i reset the tank in my garage, hehe.
i will sell the glass, stand, and light and hood, and half of the rock and
some of the substrate, and the 2 fish. i will take the rest of the
equipment and use it on a new 20-25 gallon mini-reef.



"wolf" "> wrote in message
.net...
>I might do that. looks like a good idea. gotta dismantle this tank now,
>if it hasnt sold, of course i hope it hasnt.
> even if it does, im keeping a few rocks, and a few good scoops of sand,
> hehe.
>
> ill be back in a a day or two. keep the comments and suggestions coming,
> i dont want to let go of all this stuff... thanks.
>
> "~Roy~" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Yep, get an Aqua Clear hob powerfilter. Go with the arger filter model
>> AC110. Its more than sufficient flow for a small tank and is rated at
>> 110 gal tank size and its adjustable. Its a workhorse with a lifetime
>> warranty and can be had for $33 from Bigalsonline.com You wll pay
>> double or triple that price at most LFS for the same filter.
>>
>> Take the filter and pull out the removeable filter basket assembly.
>> Unclip the side pioeces to the basket assembly so yu have three
>> individual pieceso that used to be a filter basket.No tools required
>> for this step....as the sides clip into the bottom.
>>
>> Take the bottom piece and cut it to length and width so it fits across
>> the entire outflow spillway, right at where water starts to spill out
>> of the filters case. This makes a snail / fish guard. Save remaining
>> piece of the bottom for further mod to baffles that are needed.
>>
>> Take that left over piece of bottom material and cut it to length of
>> the one side panel, and make it approx 1 to 1.25" overall width. YOur
>> side piece will mount on it opposite of what it was oriignally as you
>> had to cut it to length and width, but you need a piece roughly 1" x
>> 3". Snap both end pieces into this bottom piece and what you now have
>> is a "filter basket like before only about 1" or so wide. Snip off the
>> loops at the top that is used tp pull basket up as they are not
>> needed. NOw slide this narrowed basket back down just like it was a
>> full sized basket and place it at the pump side of filter case, but
>> keep it about 1/4" away fromn actually allowoing the long slot in the
>> side panel from snapping on the pump impeller cover. Use a hot glue
>> gun to tack snail / fish guard in place, and also the new filter
>> basket inplace making sure the one side is approx 1/4" away from the
>> portion the impeller is in. ONce its all fit and tacked in place, use
>> marine goop (do not use silicone) to run a few dabs of it to make a
>> permanent bond. It need not be water tight, just use beads here and
>> there to make sure it stays in place, and put aside for 24 hours to
>> allow marine goop to fully dry...
>>
>>
>> In the meantime take the big block of white filter foam and cut it so
>> it fits in the new filter basket, but make it stand up vertically, not
>> laying down and only covering the bottom like it originally was. This
>> will filter (mechanically) water flowing out from pump for the entire
>> height of the baffles you made, as well as allow some flow underneath
>> the small bottom piece of filter basket material you have on the
>> bottom of the side panels, thats now glued in the tank. A 1" thick
>> piece the width of the filter and as high or perhaps a bit higher than
>> the baffles themselves is sufficient, so yuou can get two foam filters
>> out of that block if you cut it right.
>>
>> YOu can put a bag of carbon in that filter basket are, or the foam
>> sponge or even stand a heater vertically in it, or place a submersible
>> heater layaing down horizontally in the larger fuge are of the hob
>> filter. Do not put sand in the fuge, just use live rock rubble and
>> macro algae. YOu will get some sand over time and for the most part it
>> is fine with whatever gets sucked up and deposited into the fuge
>> area....They work great and in a small tank of up to say 15 or so gal
>> it eliminates the need for additonal powerheads most times, due to its
>> volumne and width of water outflow.
>>
>> By keeping that one side of the narrow filter basket/baffle assembly
>> away from the raised portion the motor and pump is mounted in, it
>> allows you to ppull up that pump impeller cover to access the
>> impeller if need be. If the basket is snapped on that tab in the slot
>> and glued in place it is impossible to lift that impeller cover out,
>> and then you need to drain the fuge to remove motor to get to
>> impeller.
>>
>> An AC110 will add approximately 1.5 gal additional water to your
>> system and no worries of overflow, and they are adjustable.
>>
>> Have fun or nay questions just ask
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:25:38 GMT, "wolf" ">
>> wrote:
>>>><>i have a 6gal refugium which was or basically is a big wet/dry
>>>>converted.
>>>><>is there a way i can eliminate that (store it) and get a cheaper small
>>>><>filter that will work? i just want to keep the good stuff alive...
>>>><>
>>>><>
>>>><>"~Roy~" > wrote in message
...
>>>><>> Sure, its a very common thing today to keep what is called NANO and
>>>><>> PICO and even MICRO PICO sized tanks. Just treat em like a large
>>>><>> tank, and stock em with critters and live rock. Probably the bigest
>>>><>> problem most folks have is temp control, but its still
>>>><>> doable..........We have a heap of PICO and NANO and a few MICRO
>>>>sized
>>>><>> tanks all over our house, and to be honest, they are not any more
>>>><>> work.
>>>><>>
>>>><>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:17:49 GMT, "wolf"
">
>>>><>> wrote:
>>>><>>>><>i was wondering if anybody thinks i would have any luck, taking
>>>>my
>>>><>>>>favorite
>>>><>>>><>stuff out of this 6o gal, and trying to keep a mini reef, say,
>>>>10-15
>>>><>>>>gals? i
>>>><>>>><>would be using a 6 gal refugoum/or wet-dry preferable a refuge,
>>>>but
>>>><>>>>will be
>>>><>>>><>in a trailer for a few months, hehehehehehehehehehe.
>>>><>>>><>
>>>><>>>><>sincerely,
>>>><>>>><>addicted to tanks.
>>>><>>>><>
>>>><>>
>>>><>> --
>>>><>> \\\|///
>>>><>> ( @ @ )
>>>><>> -----------oOOo(_)oOOo---------------
>>>><>>
>>>><>>
>>>><>> oooO
>>>><>> ---------( )----Oooo----------------
>>>><>> \ ( ( )
>>>><>> \_) ) /
>>>><>> (_/
>>>><>> The original frugal ponder ! Koi-ahoi mates....
>>>><>
>>
>> --
>> \\\|///
>> ( @ @ )
>> -----------oOOo(_)oOOo---------------
>>
>>
>> oooO
>> ---------( )----Oooo----------------
>> \ ( ( )
>> \_) ) /
>> (_/
>> The original frugal ponder ! Koi-ahoi mates....
>
>