Filter opinions?

[Dan Norgard]

Does anyone have an opinion of the Emporer 280 vs the Magnum HOT system?
The filter that came with my 29g is getting tired and I think a new one,
perhaps with a bio-wheel sounds good.
Thanks,

Dan

[Racf]

"Dan Norgard" > wrote in message
...
> Does anyone have an opinion of the Emporer 280 vs the Magnum HOT
system?
> The filter that came with my 29g is getting tired and I think a new
one,
> perhaps with a bio-wheel sounds good.
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
>
>

For a 29H tank, go with the Emperor 400. The 280s are good only when
the 400 will not fit, in my case on a 37H(the cross brace).

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On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:00:13 -0700, "Dan Norgard"
> wrote:

>Does anyone have an opinion of the Emporer 280 vs the Magnum HOT system?
>The filter that came with my 29g is getting tired and I think a new one,
>perhaps with a bio-wheel sounds good.
>Thanks,
>
>Dan
>

[Dan Norgard]

29 gallon planted freshwater with 6 neons, 3 black skirt tetras, 4 rosy
tetras, 2 otos, one apple snail, 3 ghost shrimp and soon 2 dwarf flame
gouramis. Right now it has the TopFin filter it came with.
Thanks to all!
Dan
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Tanks size
Fish type
Fresh or sal****er etc

Marcus

http://www.aquatic-store.com/

Co2 tanks on sale
Eheim 2026 $143
Co2 regulator and bubble counter with needle valve $75

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On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:00:13 -0700, "Dan Norgard"
> wrote:

>Does anyone have an opinion of the Emporer 280 vs the Magnum HOT system?
>The filter that came with my 29g is getting tired and I think a new one,
>perhaps with a bio-wheel sounds good.
>Thanks,
>
>Dan
>

[Tin-Tin]

Hi

I've been 15 years in the hobby and what I can say is that today, most
filters on the market are very expensive, very complex for nothing and
not very efficient. The marketing hype around most new models is really
getting out of hand.

I don't really recomment filters like the magnum. If you want to go for
powerfiltration, get Eheim, trust me. The best filtration systems
remain the classic German-made Eheim cannisters (Fluvals are toys with
by-passes), good old undergravels and yes, plain sponge filters (air or
powerhead operated ones). Hang-on-the-tank Aquaclears and similar
filters with biowheels are IMHO a major waste of money as they have
by-passes and are poor biological filters. I don't know about the
emperor but if it is built like aquaclears and penguins, its the last
thing I would buy.

Remember that a tank that is properly taken care of doesn't need extreme
filtration except for coldwater, messy species or very large tanks.

Cheers

Dan Norgard wrote:
> Does anyone have an opinion of the Emporer 280 vs the Magnum HOT system?
> The filter that came with my 29g is getting tired and I think a new one,
> perhaps with a bio-wheel sounds good.
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
>
>

[Bob K.]

Opinions are useful, but an Eheim for a 29 gal tank isn't the best
answer. It depends much on what kind of fish and the bio load.

My 2cents

I've got a number of different filters I've accululated by buying used
tanks over the years, and I'm using all of them. The worst for me
is an undergravel filter - but for a planted display tank, and not heavily
loaded with fish - it may be a good solution!

Box filters are fine for a smaller tank where you have a vibrator pump
and you don't want to add an expense of a power filter.

Old Whispers for 10-20 gal tanks are junk, clogging up too quick and
have too little water flow.

Hot Magnum and Magnum 350 are good and easy to clean, the Eheim
is a bear to clean and I don't see it moving more water than the
Magnums.

For a number of tanks used in a breeding setup (as I have), foam
filters will NOT suck up tiny fry or brine shrimp and are excellent
bacteria housing. Not good for detritus though.

My favorite power filter, and the only one I'd buy are the aquaclear 300.
Rated at 300 gph (& they do move water!) I've never had one clog up.
and you can slightly adjust the flow if used on a smaller tank.
(& they're currently on sale for $20 in the latest Drs Foster & Smith)

DO NOT discard your filter material when it gets dirty! Wash it out
and return it .. I have filter floss (fabric store - quilt batting!) that
is stillin use for over 5 years. Some older foam is breaking up and
a friend says his big CA cichlids chew them to pieces! ..

Bob

>I've been 15 years in the hobby and what I can say is that today, most
>filters on the market are very expensive, very complex for nothing and
>not very efficient. The marketing hype around most new models is really
>getting out of hand.
>
>I don't really recomment filters like the magnum. If you want to go for
>powerfiltration, get Eheim, trust me. The best filtration systems
>remain the classic German-made Eheim cannisters (Fluvals are toys with
>by-passes), good old undergravels and yes, plain sponge filters (air or
>powerhead operated ones). Hang-on-the-tank Aquaclears and similar
>filters with biowheels are IMHO a major waste of money as they have
>by-passes and are poor biological filters. I don't know about the
>emperor but if it is built like aquaclears and penguins, its the last
>thing I would buy.
>
>Remember that a tank that is properly taken care of doesn't need extreme
>filtration except for coldwater, messy species or very large tanks.
>
>Cheers
>
>Dan Norgard wrote:
>> Does anyone have an opinion of the Emporer 280 vs the Magnum HOT system?
>> The filter that came with my 29g is getting tired and I think a new one,
>> perhaps with a bio-wheel sounds good.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dan

[Racf]

"Tin-Tin" > wrote in message
...
> Hi
>
> I've been 15 years in the hobby and what I can say is that today, most
> filters on the market are very expensive, very complex for nothing and
> not very efficient. The marketing hype around most new models is
really
> getting out of hand.
>
> I don't really recomment filters like the magnum. If you want to go
for
> powerfiltration, get Eheim, trust me. The best filtration systems
> remain the classic German-made Eheim cannisters (Fluvals are toys with
> by-passes), good old undergravels and yes, plain sponge filters (air
or
> powerhead operated ones). Hang-on-the-tank Aquaclears and similar
> filters with biowheels are IMHO a major waste of money as they have
> by-passes and are poor biological filters. I don't know about the
> emperor but if it is built like aquaclears and penguins, its the last
> thing I would buy.
>
> Remember that a tank that is properly taken care of doesn't need
extreme
> filtration except for coldwater, messy species or very large tanks.
>
> Cheers
>

Your comments are fairly consistent with all the others I have seen from
folks whom use Eheim filters. I see no point in disputing your facts or
opinion. If I were to decide to buy another canister filter I would
certainly be looking for a used Eheim. I consider them the Harley
Davidson of aquarium filters. They only become more valuable with age
and have a huge following. Their design stays true to their roots.

[Racf]

"Larry Blanchard" > wrote in message
...
> In article . net>,
> says...
> >
> > Your comments are fairly consistent with all the others I have seen
from
> > folks whom use Eheim filters. I see no point in disputing your
facts or
> > opinion. If I were to decide to buy another canister filter I would
> > certainly be looking for a used Eheim.
>
> How about the Eheim submersible filters for a small aquarium? I've
just
> acquired a 20 gallon in which I plan to put a couple of goldfish
> (shubunkins).
>
> --

I am afraid that I have become hopelessly obsessed with using Emperor
bio-wheel filters. I have used a 400 model on a 20 gallon long and it
worked really well.