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Stuart Mueller
July 29th 03, 09:10 AM
I had a tank of gourami, with an UnderGravel Filter and a sponge filter on.
In it I had a mix of pairs of dwarf gouramis. As my final pair I bought some
honey dwarf gouramis. when selecting the pair, I noticed that one of the
fish in the tank had, what I thought, was a cloudy eye. I asked the fish
store guy but he said no its fine, so foolishly I bought a pair anyway. I
plopped them in the tank with the other fish (no I didn't quarantine them
=( ).

About a week later all my fish started dieing. There were no outward signs
of anything wrong on most of them, one or two had a funny eye, the same as
the fish in the store. I performed water changes and finally was left with
three fish which seemed to have weathered the storm. However yesterday
another one of my three died, he appeared fine the day before, but when I
look the next day he was dead.

It could have been old age, because there was no outward sign of illness on
him and its been about two months since I had the problem, but I'm not sure
it was just old age. I would like to restock the tank, but I was wondering
if I should empty it and scrub everything down, with either bleach or
boiling water and start again from scratch?

or would I be safe to just restock the tank?

Stu

Peter Ashby
July 29th 03, 12:19 PM
In article >,
"Stuart Mueller" > wrote:

> I had a tank of gourami, with an UnderGravel Filter and a sponge filter on.
> In it I had a mix of pairs of dwarf gouramis. As my final pair I bought some
> honey dwarf gouramis. when selecting the pair, I noticed that one of the
> fish in the tank had, what I thought, was a cloudy eye. I asked the fish
> store guy but he said no its fine, so foolishly I bought a pair anyway. I
> plopped them in the tank with the other fish (no I didn't quarantine them
> =( ).

SNIP

> It could have been old age, because there was no outward sign of illness on
> him and its been about two months since I had the problem, but I'm not sure
> it was just old age. I would like to restock the tank, but I was wondering
> if I should empty it and scrub everything down, with either bleach or
> boiling water and start again from scratch?

The problem with bleach is getting rid of it, you need a LOT of washes.
Boiling water might crack the glass and I'm not sure what it will do to
the silicon. Emptying out the tank, cleaning everything and spreading
the gravel out and letting it all dry might do the trick.

And NEVER go back to that LFS, any owner who will give you such bad
advice is not worth trusting ever again. As for quarantine tanks, I only
have one tank and have never had a problem. Though I look over any fish
in the tank very carefully before buying and ask how long they have been
there etc.

Peter

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Stuart Mueller
July 30th 03, 07:59 AM
While sitting at a computer Peter Ashby finally put finger to keyboard and
came up with:

> In article >,
> "Stuart Mueller" > wrote:
>
>> I had a tank of gourami, with an UnderGravel Filter and a sponge
>> filter on. In it I had a mix of pairs of dwarf gouramis. As my final
>> pair I bought some honey dwarf gouramis. when selecting the pair, I
>> noticed that one of the fish in the tank had, what I thought, was a
>> cloudy eye. I asked the fish store guy but he said no its fine, so
>> foolishly I bought a pair anyway. I plopped them in the tank with
>> the other fish (no I didn't quarantine them =( ).
>
> SNIP
>
>> It could have been old age, because there was no outward sign of
>> illness on him and its been about two months since I had the
>> problem, but I'm not sure it was just old age. I would like to
>> restock the tank, but I was wondering if I should empty it and scrub
>> everything down, with either bleach or boiling water and start again
>> from scratch?
>
> The problem with bleach is getting rid of it, you need a LOT of
> washes. Boiling water might crack the glass and I'm not sure what it
> will do to
> the silicon. Emptying out the tank, cleaning everything and spreading
> the gravel out and letting it all dry might do the trick.
>
> And NEVER go back to that LFS, any owner who will give you such bad
> advice is not worth trusting ever again. As for quarantine tanks, I
> only
> have one tank and have never had a problem. Though I look over any
> fish
> in the tank very carefully before buying and ask how long they have
> been there etc.
>
> Peter

Beleive me I have learnt my lesson, and no I won't be going back to that
store again.

Thanks for your advise

Stu