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Marcus Fox
August 14th 03, 01:59 AM
"Brian" > wrote in message
.. .
> I have a lot of light green algae growing from my gravel and a bunch of my
> fish just started dying. I have a twenty gallon fresh water aquarium with
> mostly guppies that I have had for a while. I just moved and I had to do a
> pretty drastic water change which I think has something to do with this. I
> put in about 45% new (drinking water). Let me know if you need further
> information.

Number of problems here.

1: - Your fish were used to the conditions in your tank, as it slowly grew
scummy with algae and other stuff, they acclimatised. When you gave them a
whole load of new water, they got stressed.

2: - Your fish were used to the water conditions in your old area. Same
problem.

3: - You added water straight out of the tap. Fish don't like chlorine,
which water companies add to kill bacteria.

4: - By adding water from the tap, you didn't let the chlorine outgas* and
it killed your biological filter. Bacteria don't like chlorine. That's why
water companies add it. Fish produce ammonia, bacteria degrade ammonia, if
no bacteria, ammonia builds up, fish don't like ammonia.

*Some water companies add chloramine, which doesn't outgas like chlorine
does. It's still nasty though.

What you need to do.

1: - Should change 20-25% of the water each week. Also vacuum your gravel,
which I imagine has gotten pretty scummy if it hasn't been cleaned for a
while. If it is really filthy, you may want to remove the fish and filter to
a rubbermaid (with water prepared as below) for a while. It is likely you
will disturb pockets of hydrogen sulphide, produced by anaerobic bacteria
decomposing fish poo in the gravel, which, apart from being very, very, very
smelly, will make your tank water very, very, very nasty.

2: - Make sure there is no chlorine/chloramine (check with water company) in
the water you add to the tank. You can either leave it for a while, for a
shorter while with air bubbles, or add the relevant conditioner.

3: - You could use something like ammo-lock to sequester ammonia until your
biofilter builds back up. If you use ammo-lock, some ammonia test kits (fun
with mercuric iodide, no less) will give you a false reading.

Well, that's all for now, I'm sure if i've forgotten anything, some kind
soul will add it.

Marcus

Brian
August 14th 03, 02:39 AM
Okay, I should probably add a few things here that I omitted before from
being in a hurry. I've had this aquarium for a year or so and have had
several aquariums in my life so I'm not unfamilliar with the ins and outs of
this stuff. However when I was preparing the fish for the move I had an
accident and lost close to half of the existing water. So I set everything
up as usual adding about eight or so gallons of bottled drinking to replace
the lost water. I added aquarium salt and water additive per the directions
on their respective packages and everything was fine for about ten to
fifteen days afterward. I then noticed a light green colored algae growing
on the gravel. Then one by one fish just started floating. Just today I have
lightly vacuumed the gravel, taken out the carbon and added a dose of Quick
Cure, brought the temp up to about eighty degrees and did a twenty percent
water change with bottled water. I'm guessing that the algae is likely not
the problem but maybe the sign of something wrong. I hope what I have done
today may be of some help. Thanks for the help so far.
"Marcus Fox" > wrote in
message ...
>
> "Brian" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > I have a lot of light green algae growing from my gravel and a bunch of
my
> > fish just started dying. I have a twenty gallon fresh water aquarium
with
> > mostly guppies that I have had for a while. I just moved and I had to do
a
> > pretty drastic water change which I think has something to do with this.
I
> > put in about 45% new (drinking water). Let me know if you need further
> > information.
>
> Number of problems here.
>
> 1: - Your fish were used to the conditions in your tank, as it slowly grew
> scummy with algae and other stuff, they acclimatised. When you gave them a
> whole load of new water, they got stressed.
>
> 2: - Your fish were used to the water conditions in your old area. Same
> problem.
>
> 3: - You added water straight out of the tap. Fish don't like chlorine,
> which water companies add to kill bacteria.
>
> 4: - By adding water from the tap, you didn't let the chlorine outgas* and
> it killed your biological filter. Bacteria don't like chlorine. That's why
> water companies add it. Fish produce ammonia, bacteria degrade ammonia, if
> no bacteria, ammonia builds up, fish don't like ammonia.
>
> *Some water companies add chloramine, which doesn't outgas like chlorine
> does. It's still nasty though.
>
> What you need to do.
>
> 1: - Should change 20-25% of the water each week. Also vacuum your gravel,
> which I imagine has gotten pretty scummy if it hasn't been cleaned for a
> while. If it is really filthy, you may want to remove the fish and filter
to
> a rubbermaid (with water prepared as below) for a while. It is likely you
> will disturb pockets of hydrogen sulphide, produced by anaerobic bacteria
> decomposing fish poo in the gravel, which, apart from being very, very,
very
> smelly, will make your tank water very, very, very nasty.
>
> 2: - Make sure there is no chlorine/chloramine (check with water company)
in
> the water you add to the tank. You can either leave it for a while, for a
> shorter while with air bubbles, or add the relevant conditioner.
>
> 3: - You could use something like ammo-lock to sequester ammonia until
your
> biofilter builds back up. If you use ammo-lock, some ammonia test kits
(fun
> with mercuric iodide, no less) will give you a false reading.
>
> Well, that's all for now, I'm sure if i've forgotten anything, some kind
> soul will add it.
>
> Marcus
>
>

Marcus Fox
August 14th 03, 03:33 AM
"Brian" > wrote in message
. ..
> Okay, I should probably add a few things here that I omitted before from
> being in a hurry. I've had this aquarium for a year or so and have had
> several aquariums in my life so I'm not unfamilliar with the ins and outs
of
> this stuff. However when I was preparing the fish for the move I had an
> accident and lost close to half of the existing water. So I set everything
> up as usual adding about eight or so gallons of bottled drinking to
replace
> the lost water. I added aquarium salt and water additive per the
directions
> on their respective packages and everything was fine for about ten to
> fifteen days afterward. I then noticed a light green colored algae growing
> on the gravel. Then one by one fish just started floating. Just today I
have
> lightly vacuumed the gravel, taken out the carbon and added a dose of
Quick
> Cure, brought the temp up to about eighty degrees and did a twenty percent
> water change with bottled water. I'm guessing that the algae is likely not
> the problem but maybe the sign of something wrong. I hope what I have done
> today may be of some help. Thanks for the help so far.

What fish? Bottled water can be quite hard sometimes, and some fish may not
like it. Or it could be that the fish were stressed out from the move.

Marcus