Yo-Yo loach growth rate

[Gail Futoran]

I'm officially excited. I was in my LFS yesterday to get
some more Neon Tetras and saw they had Yo-Yo loaches. I
bought the Neons and went home, thought about it, debated
with myself, then gave in to impulse and went back for two
loaches. They are so cute! They are now in my 20 G long
tank. They weren't very shy and seemed to adjust to their
new environment quickly.

I know they will get to 3-4" eventually, but how long is
that? I'm still quite new to loaches, have 2 Skunk botia I
bought about 2 months ago. Do they tend to grow quickly or
slowly? The reason I ask is I'm probably looking at yet
another tank upgrade, but having just upgraded in the past
several months, it will be next year before I go for a
larger tank.

Gail

[Runner]

I second that. Mine tiny baby yo-yos were 3" in a year -- and 4" and fat
within another year.

I also have skunk loaches that started out at just 1" last year and are
about 2-1/2" this year. The large one seems bigger than that.

-Scott

"Graham Ramsay" > wrote in message
...
> "Gail Futoran" wrote
> > Do they tend to grow quickly or slowly?
>
> Fairly quickly. They'll be full size well within a year IME.
> Much quicker than clown loaches.
>
> --
> Graham Ramsay
> You might be a Bright:
> www.the-brights.net
>
>
>

[Victor M. Martinez]

Gail Futoran > wrote:
>I know they will get to 3-4" eventually, but how long is
>that? I'm still quite new to loaches, have 2 Skunk botia I
>bought about 2 months ago. Do they tend to grow quickly or

Be careful, skunk botias are nasty fish, very aggressive. I'm not sure they'll
get along with the yoyos.

>slowly? The reason I ask is I'm probably looking at yet
>another tank upgrade, but having just upgraded in the past
>several months, it will be next year before I go for a
>larger tank.

Next year should be fine, depending of course on the bioload of your current
tank.

--
Victor M. Martinez

http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv

[NetMax]

"Gail Futoran" > wrote in message
...
> I'm officially excited. I was in my LFS yesterday to get
> some more Neon Tetras and saw they had Yo-Yo loaches. I
> bought the Neons and went home, thought about it, debated
> with myself, then gave in to impulse and went back for two
> loaches. They are so cute! They are now in my 20 G long
> tank. They weren't very shy and seemed to adjust to their
> new environment quickly.
>
> I know they will get to 3-4" eventually, but how long is
> that? I'm still quite new to loaches, have 2 Skunk botia I
> bought about 2 months ago. Do they tend to grow quickly or
> slowly? The reason I ask is I'm probably looking at yet
> another tank upgrade, but having just upgraded in the past
> several months, it will be next year before I go for a
> larger tank.
>
> Gail

The growth rate of these fish is very dependant on the availability &
types of food provided. A diet of flake food might achieve almost no
perceptible growth, while a tank full of snails with a diet of brine
shrimp & bloodworms will cause a grown rate which will might make you
start worrying about your Neon's safety ;~)

To cite an example, if I drop 2 Yoyos juveniles (1.5") in a tank full of
snails, the first one to figure out that snail=escargot=food will be
noticeable larger in just one week, as compared to his partner. In 2
months, if only one is eating snails, there will be an inch difference
between them (almost double the size difference).

NetMax

[Slats]

How much did you pay for them?

I live in Australia and saw them for the first time in my LFS! they were
AUD$95!~! (about us$60) that is like 5-6 times as much as a clown loach! as
much as i wanted 2 it was very hard to spend that much money on them !

I was told they are real rare in Australia so the price is so high.

Would be interested to see how much they are in the US or where they r more
commonly available.

Regards,

Slats


"NetMax" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "Gail Futoran" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I'm officially excited. I was in my LFS yesterday to get
> > some more Neon Tetras and saw they had Yo-Yo loaches. I
> > bought the Neons and went home, thought about it, debated
> > with myself, then gave in to impulse and went back for two
> > loaches. They are so cute! They are now in my 20 G long
> > tank. They weren't very shy and seemed to adjust to their
> > new environment quickly.
> >
> > I know they will get to 3-4" eventually, but how long is
> > that? I'm still quite new to loaches, have 2 Skunk botia I
> > bought about 2 months ago. Do they tend to grow quickly or
> > slowly? The reason I ask is I'm probably looking at yet
> > another tank upgrade, but having just upgraded in the past
> > several months, it will be next year before I go for a
> > larger tank.
> >
> > Gail
>
> The growth rate of these fish is very dependant on the availability &
> types of food provided. A diet of flake food might achieve almost no
> perceptible growth, while a tank full of snails with a diet of brine
> shrimp & bloodworms will cause a grown rate which will might make you
> start worrying about your Neon's safety ;~)
>
> To cite an example, if I drop 2 Yoyos juveniles (1.5") in a tank full of
> snails, the first one to figure out that snail=escargot=food will be
> noticeable larger in just one week, as compared to his partner. In 2
> months, if only one is eating snails, there will be an inch difference
> between them (almost double the size difference).
>
> NetMax
>
>

[NetMax]

Yoyos retail here between $6 and $9cdn ($4-6US), depending on size and
the quantity I'm willing to buy (the more I order, the less water I need
to tranship per fish). I'm surprised you are paying so much, being so
close to Singapore, which is where I tranship mine from. Clown loaches
retail between $5 and $10cdn (depending on the season), but they are
typically slightly more than Yoyos. Zebra loaches are my most expensive,
typically $8-9cdn. Someone might be feeding you a line on the Yoyos ;o)
line, string, yoyo, get it? *groan*

Now Boesmani rainbows are expensive here, (retail around $13-15cdn). I'd
hope you could get these for less than me.

NetMax

"Slats" > wrote in message
u...
> How much did you pay for them?
>
> I live in Australia and saw them for the first time in my LFS! they
were
> AUD$95!~! (about us$60) that is like 5-6 times as much as a clown
loach! as
> much as i wanted 2 it was very hard to spend that much money on them !
>
> I was told they are real rare in Australia so the price is so high.
>
> Would be interested to see how much they are in the US or where they r
more
> commonly available.
>
> Regards,
>
> Slats
<snip>

[Gail Futoran]

Thanks, all.
Gail

"Runner" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> I second that. Mine tiny baby yo-yos were 3" in a year --
and 4" and fat
> within another year.
>
> I also have skunk loaches that started out at just 1" last
year and are
> about 2-1/2" this year. The large one seems bigger than
that.
>
> -Scott
>
> "Graham Ramsay" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "Gail Futoran" wrote
> > > Do they tend to grow quickly or slowly?
> >
> > Fairly quickly. They'll be full size well within a year
IME.
> > Much quicker than clown loaches.
> >
> > --
> > Graham Ramsay
> > You might be a Bright:
> > www.the-brights.net
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[Gail Futoran]

"Victor M. Martinez" > wrote in
message ...
> Gail Futoran > wrote:
> >I know they will get to 3-4" eventually, but how long is
> >that? I'm still quite new to loaches, have 2 Skunk botia
I
> >bought about 2 months ago. Do they tend to grow quickly
or
>
> Be careful, skunk botias are nasty fish, very aggressive.
I'm not sure they'll
> get along with the yoyos.

Sorry, I wasn't clear. The yo-yos are in one tank, the
skunks are in a different tank.

[snip]

Gail

[Gail Futoran]

"NetMax" > wrote
>
> The growth rate of these fish is very dependant on the
availability &
> types of food provided. A diet of flake food might
achieve almost no
> perceptible growth, while a tank full of snails with a
diet of brine
> shrimp & bloodworms will cause a grown rate which will
might make you
> start worrying about your Neon's safety ;~)

Thanks for the info. I feed a variety of foods, including
frozen brine shrimp & frozen blood worms, sinking pellets,
shrimp pellets, algae tablets, Betta bits, even flake food
(not all at once!).

> To cite an example, if I drop 2 Yoyos juveniles (1.5")

That's about the size of my two.

in a tank full of
> snails, the first one to figure out that
snail=escargot=food will be
> noticeable larger in just one week, as compared to his
partner. In 2
> months, if only one is eating snails, there will be an
inch difference
> between them (almost double the size difference).

Whoa! I'll have to watch to see which one is smarter. :)

Thanks again.

Gail

> NetMax

[Gail Futoran]

"Slats" > wrote in message
u...
> How much did you pay for them?
>
> I live in Australia and saw them for the first time in my
LFS! they were
> AUD$95!~! (about us$60) that is like 5-6 times as much as
a clown loach! as
> much as i wanted 2 it was very hard to spend that much
money on them !

The two I bought were US$3.99 each + tax of about 8.3% (or
whatever TX tax currently is). I would have been willing to
pay more, but not US$60!

> I was told they are real rare in Australia so the price is
so high.

Makes sense.

[snips]

Gail