Hardness Test???

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HI

Lost the instruction book that came with my AP FW Test Kit. I cannot
remember how to use the hardness tests. GH & KH and which one I want to pay
attention to for raising Angel Fish.

Any help is appreciated.
JOhn :-)

[Dinky]

"><(((\"> John Lange ><(((\">" >
wrote in message news:VOv6b.1463
>
> Any help is appreciated.
> JOhn :-)
>
>

http://www.aquariumpharm.com/aqtest.html

Click on the freshwater gh test, then on 'tech sheet'. Complete directions.

hth

btw, google and about 35 seconds of invested time got me this info.

billy

[bassett]

My be I,m a little strange, but I just don't get it..

You people stuff around with Test Kits for this and Test kits for that,
Can someone please tell me , what's wrong with Rain water, or do you
live
in areas that are so polluted, the rain waters so pullulated when it
falls , it kills all the plants ,trees, and any bird that sticks it,s
head in it for a drink.

You spend an absolute fortune on Fish, Tanks, Filters, and stuff to get
the water PH right... When all you need is fresh rain water.. You would
make an alchemist envious.
What's wrong with sticking a small plastic rainwater tank in, or if your in
a situation where
a outside tank is not possible, get a plastic sheet put a hole in the
middle , and spread it outside when it rains, stick a bucket under the hole
and collect your water that way..

Me, I keep Angles, I vacuum the gravel once a week, and top up the tanks
with
rain water, No water testing, never loose fish. If I was going to be a
Chemist, I
would have been born in a white coat.
Love
bassett



><(((\"> John Lange ><(((\"> > wrote
in message
> Your right, I apologize for my laziness. For some reason I never even
> thought about the AP website DUH!
>
> Next question, does this test kit go bad? If not I have OVER 28dGH. at
> this point I figured it was hopeless so I didn't continue.
>
> No wonder the fish swim so slowly, the water is so hard it is stiff.
Don't
> imagine the Angels I just bought will survive this punishment.
>
> Now what, the AP site suggests "Water Softener Pillow". Will this work?
> I suppose I need a RO/DI?
> I was using a tap water filter, but it got so expensive!
> Will Peat Moss help?
>
> Thanks
> JOhn :-)
>
>
> "Dinky" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "><(((\"> John Lange ><(((\">" >
> > wrote in message news:VOv6b.1463
> > >
> > > Any help is appreciated.
> > > JOhn :-)
> > >
> > >
> >
> > http://www.aquariumpharm.com/aqtest.html
> >
> > Click on the freshwater gh test, then on 'tech sheet'. Complete
> directions.
> >
> > hth
> >
> > btw, google and about 35 seconds of invested time got me this info.
> >
> > billy
> >
> >
>
>

[Donald Kerns]

bassett wrote:

> My be I,m a little strange, but I just don't get it..
>
> You people stuff around with Test Kits for this and Test kits for
> that, Can someone please tell me , what's wrong with Rain water,
> or do you
> live
> in areas that are so polluted, the rain waters so pullulated when
> it
> falls , it kills all the plants ,trees, and any bird that sticks
> it,s head in it for a drink.

Well for one, we don't get any rain 8 months out of the year.

-D
--
Axiom #2:
"Ability to type on a computer terminal is no guarantee of sanity,
intelligence, or common sense."

[levittd]

"bassett" > wrote in message
...
> My be I,m a little strange, but I just don't get it..
>
> You people stuff around with Test Kits for this and Test kits for
that,
> Can someone please tell me , what's wrong with Rain water, or do you
> live
> in areas that are so polluted, the rain waters so pullulated when it
> falls , it kills all the plants ,trees, and any bird that sticks it,s
> head in it for a drink.
>
> You spend an absolute fortune on Fish, Tanks, Filters, and stuff to get
> the water PH right... When all you need is fresh rain water.. You would
> make an alchemist envious.
> What's wrong with sticking a small plastic rainwater tank in, or if your
in
> a situation where
> a outside tank is not possible, get a plastic sheet put a hole in the
> middle , and spread it outside when it rains, stick a bucket under the
hole
> and collect your water that way..
>
> Me, I keep Angles, I vacuum the gravel once a week, and top up the tanks
> with
> rain water, No water testing, never loose fish. If I was going to be a
> Chemist, I
> would have been born in a white coat.
> Love
> bassett
>
>
Must be nice to get rain. Here in BC, Canada (and a very large portion of
the continent), it hasn't rained at all in several months, to the point
that the forests, grass etc is so dry that we are not even allowed in the
woods, anywhere. Even trails in treed areas inside the city limits are out
of bounds. Half the province is on fire and has been for weeks, thousands
have lost their homes to forest fires, thousands more evacuated from theirs.
Entire industries (forestry, tourism, anything outdoors) have been badly
hurt and now the gov't is talking about heavy limits on commercial water
use. I work at a golf course, so this is a major concern for me personally
(no water - no golf course - no customers - no job). So before you rag us
out for "stuffing around" with supplies to make our water liveable for our
fish, stop and consider that the resource you employ for your water changes
are simply not available for a very large number of us. I don't use
rainwater - not because it is polluted but because it doesn't exist right
now, in a part of the world famous for its copious rainfall, to boot. We
don't necessarily use tests and dechlor chemicals or whatever else because
we want to - we have little other choice. We are not wanna-be chemists, we
care about our fish. Besides, googling the archives will likely turn up any
number of other reasons not to use rainwater. Have a look.
http://groups.google.com
levittd

[bassett]

I feel very sorry about your fires,, We know about fires in OZ, If fact from
memory
we had people come out to your county and advise you on bush fire
management..
We had a large "Fire Storm" in one of the suburbs of the national capital
{Canberra]
500 homes went in five minutes.

We also know about drought, The area where I live has not seen rain for
something like 6 months, but we're lucky some parts of the continent have
not seen rain for three years..

In the area where I live some 60 odd klms from the coast, we have no
water supply,
no sewage service, The sealed road went in three years ago, and it,s a
two and half hour round trip to town.. All our water comes of the roof ,
and we have multiple tanks to hold it, You say it hasn't rained for several
months, I assume you have water tanks, ???
If not why not.
In our coastal areas we re-use all our gray water, which is screened and
screened and filtered, but chemical free, that years ago would have been
pumped out to sea.. Parks, gardens,Playing fields, There researching using
it on Banana plantations, and of course Golf Courses, So our waste water is
put to some use. Could I ask, if your Governments
have considered such a thing,,,
Of course Drought would be unknown in your country, due to the white stuff
in winter,
Snow I think its called,, If it drops below 20 degrees celsius here , we
light the fire.

IF your fish management procedures where correct, your fish would not get
sick in the first place, and would not need medicating, and remember once
medication is added to water , you never ever get it all out..

Best regards from OZ
bassett






levittd > wrote in message
> >
> Must be nice to get rain. Here in BC, Canada (and a very large portion of
> the continent), it hasn't rained at all in several months, to the point
> that the forests, grass etc is so dry that we are not even allowed in the
> woods, anywhere. Even trails in treed areas inside the city limits are out
> of bounds. Half the province is on fire and has been for weeks, thousands
> have lost their homes to forest fires, thousands more evacuated from
theirs.
> Entire industries (forestry, tourism, anything outdoors) have been badly
> hurt and now the gov't is talking about heavy limits on commercial water
> use. I work at a golf course, so this is a major concern for me
personally
> (no water - no golf course - no customers - no job). So before you rag us
> out for "stuffing around" with supplies to make our water liveable for our
> fish, stop and consider that the resource you employ for your water
changes
> are simply not available for a very large number of us. I don't use
> rainwater - not because it is polluted but because it doesn't exist right
> now, in a part of the world famous for its copious rainfall, to boot. We
> don't necessarily use tests and dechlor chemicals or whatever else because
> we want to - we have little other choice. We are not wanna-be chemists, we
> care about our fish. Besides, googling the archives will likely turn up
any
> number of other reasons not to use rainwater. Have a look.
> http://groups.google.com
> levittd
>
>

[levittd]

"bassett" > wrote in message
...
> I feel very sorry about your fires,, We know about fires in OZ, If fact
from
> memory
> we had people come out to your county and advise you on bush fire
> management..
> We had a large "Fire Storm" in one of the suburbs of the national capital
> {Canberra]
> 500 homes went in five minutes.

I remember seeing that on the news. Same situation here right now. We're no
strangers to forest fires around here, but nothing like what's happening
right now.

>
> We also know about drought, The area where I live has not seen rain for
> something like 6 months, but we're lucky some parts of the continent have
> not seen rain for three years..
>
> In the area where I live some 60 odd klms from the coast, we have no
> water supply,
> no sewage service, The sealed road went in three years ago, and it,s a
> two and half hour round trip to town.. All our water comes of the roof ,
> and we have multiple tanks to hold it, You say it hasn't rained for
several
> months, I assume you have water tanks, ???
> If not why not.

Water is a resource we have always enjoyed in abundance. People here aren't
at all accustomed to such a prolonged shortage, and are therefore not well
equipped to handle it.

> In our coastal areas we re-use all our gray water, which is screened and
> screened and filtered, but chemical free, that years ago would have been
> pumped out to sea.. Parks, gardens,Playing fields, There researching using
> it on Banana plantations, and of course Golf Courses, So our waste water
is
> put to some use. Could I ask, if your Governments
> have considered such a thing,,,

They have done little other than impose watering bans. Not sure what the
rules are for industry, but the golf course I work at uses city water. Sure,
it's wasteful, no doubt about that, but like I said, it's not something
we've ever had to worry about until now.

> Of course Drought would be unknown in your country, due to the white
stuff
> in winter,
> Snow I think its called,, If it drops below 20 degrees celsius here , we
> light the fire.

Contrary to popular belief, Canada is not all rainy/snowy mountain ranges.
Sure, the far north (above the 30th parallel or so) gets lots of snow every
year - not so for the south, especially on the west coast, though it USED to
rain a LOT. The southeast (Ontario, New Brunswick, etc) gets a bit more
than we do here. The Prairies (Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba) know ALL
about drought.

>
> IF your fish management procedures where correct, your fish would not get
> sick in the first place, and would not need medicating, and remember once
> medication is added to water , you never ever get it all out..

I've only used medication once, on 3 guppies and a betta. They responded
quickly-by dying-and I haven't touched the stuff since (nor is that tank
still set up). Since then, I have not had a sick fish and do not use any
chemicals of any kind, not even dechlor. The tapwater here is only very
lightly chlorinated, so I use it untreated for small water changes and
aerate it for a while for large changes.

G'day! (sorry couldn't resist, eh)
levittd


>
> Best regards from OZ
> bassett
>
>

[Dennis Fox]

Donald Kerns wrote:
> bassett wrote:
>
>> We also know about drought, The area where I live has not seen rain
>> for
[snip]
> I'd like to find out more on the day-to-day specifics of rainwater
> catchment.
>
> What sort of treatment/filtering/purification do you use (if any)?
> How long do you let it rain before channeling runoff into your tanks?
> (To avoid the bird poop scenario)
> How to deal with droughts when you're counting on that for a water
> supply?
> Etc...
>
> Contact me via email if you'd like,
>
> -Donald

Here is a web-site with some good starting points on using rainwater:
http://mike-edwardes.members.beeb.net/rain.html

HTH,
Dennis