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Flash Wilson
March 1st 06, 12:36 AM
Welcome to the Aquaria Newsgroups!


1. Copyright.

The text for the Welcome (this posting), except for the copyright
paragraph, was written by Mark Stone. The Aquaria FAQs were compiled
and are maintained by Erik Olson. The articles incorporating the
FAQs were written by: Shaji Bhaskar, Gary Bishop, George Booth,
Rick Clark, Neil Frank, Bruce Hallman, Dean Hougen, Oleg Kiselev,
Dustin Laurence, Matt McCabe, Davin Milun, Thomas Narten, Erik
Olson, Jeff Pfohl, Howard Rebel, Mark A. Rosenstein, Thomas Sasala,
Anne Hull Seales, Elaine Thompson, Betsy Wilson, Don Wilson and
Todd Zebert.

Erik Olson writes:

The FAQs owe their existence to the contributors of the net, and
as such it belongs to the readers of rec.aquaria and alt.aquaria.
Articles with attributions are copyrighted by their original authors.
Copies of the FAQs can be made freely, as long as it is distributed
at no charge, and the disclaimers and the copyright notice are
included. Much of the material for this new FAQ comes from the FAQ
Working Group. We spent nearly a year initially putting this
collection of documents together, and hope you find them useful in
your aquaria endeavors. Since the FAQ is (we hope) an evolving
document, we'd appreciate any and all suggestions for material we
may have left out, factual changes, or just comments in general.
We'd also appreciate volunteers to replace our burnt-out set of
authors! Mail your comments or requests about the FAQs to faq at
thekrib.com (please use this address for FAQ development-related
topics only; pleas for help in diagnosing your sick fish will be
cheerfully ignored or redirected to the newsgroups). Thank you.


2. What Are the Aquaria FAQs?

FAQs are answers to the Frequently Asked Questions relating to
knowledge of modern fishkeeping and general Newsgroup usage. We
like to think that the Aquaria FAQs are especially important because
we are in a hobby that deals with live animals, and as such it is
imperative that information on fishkeeping be easily available and
as accurate as modern findings dictate.

So often people buy a new aquarium and a group of fishes before
doing research into the hobby and finding out what is required to
keep fish alive and healthy. Additionally, there has always been
the notion afloat that they are just fish and it doesnt matter if
they are unhealthy or die. It is the goal of the FAQs to dispel
this notion and to make information relating to fishkeeping easily
available and understandable, particularly to new fishkeeping
hobbyists. People that are experienced aquarists will find a wealth
of helpful information here, too!

3. Newsgroup Usage

Included in the Aquaria FAQs is an extensive section on newsgroup
usage, written by Todd Zebert. Here you will find information on
etiquette, posting guidelines, and other helpful topics. It is very
important to read this document before posting to the *.aquaria
newsgroups!

4. Where are the FAQs located?

In years past, the entire text of the FAQs was posted periodically
to the aquaria newsgroups in addition to news.answers. However, for
the purpose of brevity and for ease of use, it has been decided to
post links to the websites containing the FAQs in the body of this
introductory message instead of the FAQs themselves.

The FAQs are located at:
http://faq.thekrib.com
http://www.actwin.com/fish/mirror/

A text version is available at: http://faq.thekrib.com/map.html

Non-English Versions:
Finnish: http://www.jmp.fi/~liaani/akvaario/aquafaq/ffaq.html
French: http://www.cyberaqua.org/faq
Spanish: http://faq.thekrib.com/es/
Portuguese: http://faq.thekrib.com/pt/
Italian: http://acquariofilia.hypermart.net
Korean: http://www.insamo.pe.kr/faq

5. To What Newsgroups do these FAQs apply?

The groups currently covered by these FAQs are:
rec.aquaria
rec.aquaria.marketplace
rec.aquaria.misc
rec.aquaria.tech
rec.aquaria.marine
rec.aquaria.marine.misc
rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
rec.aquaria.freshwater
rec.aquaria.freshwater.cichlids
rec.aquaria.freshwater.goldfish
rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants
alt.aquaria
alt.aquaria.guppy
alt.aquaria.killies
alt.aquaria.marketplace
alt.aquaria.oscars
sci.aquaria

Welcome to the Aquaria Newsgroups!

Koi-Lo
March 6th 06, 06:54 AM
"Nate" > wrote in message ...
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> The real koi-lo might want to download, install, learn how to use PGP, and
> digitally sign all his/her outgoing messages to protect his/her identity.
==============
I couldn't figure out how to do that from the websites I found. I couldn't
even understand what it is or what it does. How is it done using OE6? Is
it free? No one I asked knew anything about PGP. No one I know (in real
life) even uses Usenet. They don't know what Usenet is. Besides, I was
told a few months ago that the trolls just copy & paste it into their own
forgeries as most people don't know how to check anyway - heck, most people
don't even know how to read a header. :-(

If you have any information on PGP please share........

Nothing snipped since I don't know where you posted this from.
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Troll Information:
http://tinyurl.com/9zbh
http://tinyurl.com/d8e4
Reading Headers:
http://tinyurl.com/amm9s
Note: There are two Koi-Lo's on the Aquaria groups.
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

FishNoob
March 6th 06, 08:58 AM
In article >,
says...
> I did not write the inane message below.
>
Koi-Lo, while I understand your reasons for responding to each post
made by this troll, you should not quote the entire text of the
original post each time. You are effectively doubling his efforts. It
would be far better to quote only the first four or five words of the
original post, followed by the same thing each time (exactly the same
words, no variation, no matter what). There's no need to quote all
the headers either; it's pretty obvious to anyone who's read half a
dozen posts which ones are which.

--
FishNoob

Koi-Lo
March 6th 06, 10:36 AM
FishNoob wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
> > I did not write the inane message below.
> >
> Koi-Lo, while I understand your reasons for responding to each post
> made by this troll, you should not quote the entire text of the
> original post each time. You are effectively doubling his efforts.

Hey Boob are you from rec.ponds???

Don't tell me what to do I am the moderator here!!!!!

Koi-Lo
March 6th 06, 03:48 PM
"FishNoob" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> says...
>> I did not write the inane message below.
>>
> Koi-Lo, while I understand your reasons for responding to each post
> made by this troll, you should not quote the entire text of the
> original post each time. You are effectively doubling his efforts. It
> would be far better to quote only the first four or five words of the
> original post, followed by the same thing each time (exactly the same
> words, no variation, no matter what). There's no need to quote all
> the headers either; it's pretty obvious to anyone who's read half a
> dozen posts which ones are which.
=======================
Thanks FishNoob. I can do that (I think I understand what you said).
Unfortunately I have to include the whole header in case this ever goes to
court (impersonation, harassment, intimidation etc). He's known for NUKING
his messages. I *can* snip some of the text.
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
Troll Information:
http://tinyurl.com/9zbh
http://tinyurl.com/d8e4
Reading Headers:
http://tinyurl.com/amm9s
Note: There are two Koi-Lo's on the Aquaria groups.
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

Roy
March 7th 06, 02:15 AM
Your a laugh a minute there CArol, goes to court for impersonation of
a username on USENET.. come on get real, everyone doe snot have a dim
witted half cocked concept as that being worth a tinkers dam even in a
kangaroo court system......

HARRASSMENT........I sure do not think so, If you can't stand the heat
in the kitchen go and set out n the porch dummy, no one is harrassing
you any more than your harrassing them and its not harrasment to
dissagree....so get a clue idiot

Intimidatioon, my backside, your a motor cycle momma and probbaly
pulled the train or two so where is there any 9ntimidaiton on written
posts.......or are you afraid of the "Koi-lo slapped down hard and
such statements, if so, you really need to get help bad, not that you
do not need help long before now, but some meds are in order too.

Your a lunatic without a cause, just your self gratification in
disrupting anything that others have anyhting to do with if you do not
agree with them.......YOU really need a life outside that hole in the
wall Mt. Jolliet.



On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 09:48:11 -0600, "Koi-Lo" >
wrote:
>><>
>><>"FishNoob" > wrote in message
...
>><>> In article >,
>><>> says...
>><>>> I did not write the inane message below.
>><>>>
>><>> Koi-Lo, while I understand your reasons for responding to each post
>><>> made by this troll, you should not quote the entire text of the
>><>> original post each time. You are effectively doubling his efforts. It
>><>> would be far better to quote only the first four or five words of the
>><>> original post, followed by the same thing each time (exactly the same
>><>> words, no variation, no matter what). There's no need to quote all
>><>> the headers either; it's pretty obvious to anyone who's read half a
>><>> dozen posts which ones are which.
>><>=======================
>><>Thanks FishNoob. I can do that (I think I understand what you said).
>><>Unfortunately I have to include the whole header in case this ever goes to
>><>court (impersonation, harassment, intimidation etc). He's known for NUKING
>><>his messages. I *can* snip some of the text.

--
\\\|///
( @ @ )
-----------oOOo(_)oOOo---------------


oooO
---------( )----Oooo----------------
\ ( ( )
\_) ) /
(_/
The original frugal ponder ! Koi-ahoi mates....

Roy
March 7th 06, 02:16 AM
I did not write this message:
I did not write this message:
I did not write this message:
I did not write this message:
I did not write this message:
I did not write this message:
I did not write this message:
I did not write this message:


YOU sound like a broken record clown of all clowns.......

On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 09:44:03 -0600, "Koi-Lo" >
wrote:
>><>I did not write this message:

--
\\\|///
( @ @ )
-----------oOOo(_)oOOo---------------


oooO
---------( )----Oooo----------------
\ ( ( )
\_) ) /
(_/
The original frugal ponder ! Koi-ahoi mates....

Koi-Lo
March 7th 06, 02:42 AM
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"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> Your a laugh a minute there CArol, goes to court for impersonation of
> a username on USENET.. come on get real, everyone doe snot have a dim
> witted half cocked concept as that being worth a tinkers dam even in a
> kangaroo court system......
>
> HARRASSMENT........I sure do not think so, If you can't stand the heat
> in the kitchen go and set out n the porch dummy, no one is harrassing
> you any more than your harrassing them and its not harrasment to
> dissagree....so get a clue idiot
>
> Intimidatioon, my backside, your a motor cycle momma and probbaly
> pulled the train or two so where is there any 9ntimidaiton on written
> posts.......or are you afraid of the "Koi-lo slapped down hard and
> such statements, if so, you really need to get help bad, not that you
> do not need help long before now, but some meds are in order too.
>
> Your a lunatic without a cause, just your self gratification in
> disrupting anything that others have anyhting to do with if you do not
> agree with them.......YOU really need a life outside that hole in the
> wall Mt. Jolliet.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 09:48:11 -0600, "Koi-Lo" >
> wrote:
>>><>
>>><>"FishNoob" > wrote in message
...
>>><>> In article >,
>>><>> says...
>>><>>> I did not write the inane message below.
>>><>>>
>>><>> Koi-Lo, while I understand your reasons for responding to each post
>>><>> made by this troll, you should not quote the entire text of the
>>><>> original post each time. You are effectively doubling his efforts. It
>>><>> would be far better to quote only the first four or five words of the
>>><>> original post, followed by the same thing each time (exactly the same
>>><>> words, no variation, no matter what). There's no need to quote all
>>><>> the headers either; it's pretty obvious to anyone who's read half a
>>><>> dozen posts which ones are which.
>>><>=======================
>>><>Thanks FishNoob. I can do that (I think I understand what you said).
>>><>Unfortunately I have to include the whole header in case this ever goes
>>>to
>>><>court (impersonation, harassment, intimidation etc). He's known for
>>>NUKING
>>><>his messages. I *can* snip some of the text.
>
> --
> \\\|///
> ( @ @ )
> -----------oOOo(_)oOOo---------------
>
>
> oooO
> ---------( )----Oooo----------------
> \ ( ( )
> \_) ) /
> (_/
> The original frugal ponder ! Koi-ahoi mates....

Richard Sexton
March 7th 06, 03:42 AM
You guys can take this to alt.flame where it belongs and post your
brains out, or this group will be moderated and you wont be posting
this here.


Richard Sexton,
Originator of the usenet aquaria groups


--
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cat daddy
March 7th 06, 03:44 AM
Funny how Carol never posts her denials of her 400+ line remailer attacks
on you.

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> I did not write this message:
> I did not write this message:
> I did not write this message:
> I did not write this message:
> I did not write this message:
> I did not write this message:
> I did not write this message:
> I did not write this message:
>
>
> YOU sound like a broken record clown of all clowns.......
>
> On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 09:44:03 -0600, "Koi-Lo" >
> wrote:
> >><>I did not write this message:

Roy
March 7th 06, 03:56 AM
Hey cat daddy, read the posts by Dan morrow on how he regards Carol. I
liked to have ruined my keyboard and busted my gut when Iread what his
concept of carol is.........

On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 21:44:16 -0600, "cat daddy" >
wrote:
>><> Funny how Carol never posts her denials of her 400+ line remailer attacks
>><>on you.
>><>
>><>"Roy" > wrote in message
...
>><>> I did not write this message:
>><>> I did not write this message:
>><>> I did not write this message:
>><>> I did not write this message:
>><>> I did not write this message:
>><>> I did not write this message:
>><>> I did not write this message:
>><>> I did not write this message:
>><>>
>><>>
>><>> YOU sound like a broken record clown of all clowns.......
>><>>
>><>> On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 09:44:03 -0600, "Koi-Lo" >
>><>> wrote:
>><>> >><>I did not write this message:
>><>

--
\\\|///
( @ @ )
-----------oOOo(_)oOOo---------------


oooO
---------( )----Oooo----------------
\ ( ( )
\_) ) /
(_/
The original frugal ponder ! Koi-ahoi mates....

Koi-Lo
March 7th 06, 04:10 AM
"Richard Sexton" > wrote in message
...
>
> You guys can take this to alt.flame where it belongs and post your
> brains out, or this group will be moderated and you wont be posting
> this here.
>
>
> Richard Sexton,
> Originator of the usenet aquaria groups
===========================
Can you PLEASE somehow moderate these groups so you can block out all the
trolls, bots and other problem posters? As for myself I'm trying to please
the regular posters here and still do what (the troll sites and) my ISP
advised me to do when I'm personally attacked or impersonated. I would love
it if these groups were moderated.
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Troll Information:
http://tinyurl.com/9zbh
http://tinyurl.com/d8e4
Reading Headers:
http://tinyurl.com/amm9s
Note: There are two Koi-Lo's on the Aquaria groups.
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

ReelMcKoi
March 25th 06, 09:57 PM
http://tinyurl.com/99azt
http://tinyurl.com/87ow4
http://tinyurl.com/d6t5m
http://tinyurl.com/aheek
http://tinyurl.com/ck97r
http://tinyurl.com/cm3dp
http://tinyurl.com/8bscg
http://tinyurl.com/7epdg
http://tinyurl.com/bya3z

Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Note: There are two Koi-Lo's on rec.ponds.
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>


Flash Wilson wrote:
> Welcome to the Aquaria Newsgroups!
>
>
> 1. Copyright.
>
> The text for the Welcome (this posting), except for the copyright
> paragraph, was written by Mark Stone. The Aquaria FAQs were compiled
> and are maintained by Erik Olson. The articles incorporating the
> FAQs were written by: Shaji Bhaskar, Gary Bishop, George Booth,
> Rick Clark, Neil Frank, Bruce Hallman, Dean Hougen, Oleg Kiselev,
> Dustin Laurence, Matt McCabe, Davin Milun, Thomas Narten, Erik
> Olson, Jeff Pfohl, Howard Rebel, Mark A. Rosenstein, Thomas Sasala,
> Anne Hull Seales, Elaine Thompson, Betsy Wilson, Don Wilson and
> Todd Zebert.
>
> Erik Olson writes:
>
> The FAQs owe their existence to the contributors of the net, and
> as such it belongs to the readers of rec.aquaria and alt.aquaria.
> Articles with attributions are copyrighted by their original authors.
> Copies of the FAQs can be made freely, as long as it is distributed
> at no charge, and the disclaimers and the copyright notice are
> included. Much of the material for this new FAQ comes from the FAQ
> Working Group. We spent nearly a year initially putting this
> collection of documents together, and hope you find them useful in
> your aquaria endeavors. Since the FAQ is (we hope) an evolving
> document, we'd appreciate any and all suggestions for material we
> may have left out, factual changes, or just comments in general.
> We'd also appreciate volunteers to replace our burnt-out set of
> authors! Mail your comments or requests about the FAQs to faq at
> thekrib.com (please use this address for FAQ development-related
> topics only; pleas for help in diagnosing your sick fish will be
> cheerfully ignored or redirected to the newsgroups). Thank you.
>
>
> 2. What Are the Aquaria FAQs?
>
> FAQs are answers to the Frequently Asked Questions relating to
> knowledge of modern fishkeeping and general Newsgroup usage. We
> like to think that the Aquaria FAQs are especially important because
> we are in a hobby that deals with live animals, and as such it is
> imperative that information on fishkeeping be easily available and
> as accurate as modern findings dictate.
>
> So often people buy a new aquarium and a group of fishes before
> doing research into the hobby and finding out what is required to
> keep fish alive and healthy. Additionally, there has always been
> the notion afloat that they are just fish and it doesnt matter if
> they are unhealthy or die. It is the goal of the FAQs to dispel
> this notion and to make information relating to fishkeeping easily
> available and understandable, particularly to new fishkeeping
> hobbyists. People that are experienced aquarists will find a wealth
> of helpful information here, too!
>
> 3. Newsgroup Usage
>
> Included in the Aquaria FAQs is an extensive section on newsgroup
> usage, written by Todd Zebert. Here you will find information on
> etiquette, posting guidelines, and other helpful topics. It is very
> important to read this document before posting to the *.aquaria
> newsgroups!
>
> 4. Where are the FAQs located?
>
> In years past, the entire text of the FAQs was posted periodically
> to the aquaria newsgroups in addition to news.answers. However, for
> the purpose of brevity and for ease of use, it has been decided to
> post links to the websites containing the FAQs in the body of this
> introductory message instead of the FAQs themselves.
>
> The FAQs are located at:
> http://faq.thekrib.com
> http://www.actwin.com/fish/mirror/
>
> A text version is available at: http://faq.thekrib.com/map.html
>
> Non-English Versions:
> Finnish: http://www.jmp.fi/~liaani/akvaario/aquafaq/ffaq.html
> French: http://www.cyberaqua.org/faq
> Spanish: http://faq.thekrib.com/es/
> Portuguese: http://faq.thekrib.com/pt/
> Italian: http://acquariofilia.hypermart.net
> Korean: http://www.insamo.pe.kr/faq
>
> 5. To What Newsgroups do these FAQs apply?
>
> The groups currently covered by these FAQs are:
> rec.aquaria
> rec.aquaria.marketplace
> rec.aquaria.misc
> rec.aquaria.tech
> rec.aquaria.marine
> rec.aquaria.marine.misc
> rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
> rec.aquaria.freshwater
> rec.aquaria.freshwater.cichlids
> rec.aquaria.freshwater.goldfish
> rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
> rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants
> alt.aquaria
> alt.aquaria.guppy
> alt.aquaria.killies
> alt.aquaria.marketplace
> alt.aquaria.oscars
> sci.aquaria
>
> Welcome to the Aquaria Newsgroups!

stevnblk
January 31st 11, 06:26 PM
FAQs owe their existence to the contributors to the net, therefore, it belongs to the reader rec.aquaria and alt.aquaria. The copyright of the article and attributed to their original authors. Copies of the common problems, free, as long as it is distributed free, and copyright notice and disclaimer included.

michelstephon
February 2nd 11, 09:23 PM
FAQs owe their existence to the contributors to the grid, it is up to the reader and rec.aquaria alt.aquaria. The copyright of the article and attributed to their original authors. Copies of common problems, without it is distributed free and copyright notice and disclaimer included.