Got Babies

[Public Interest]

I just discovered 3 living fries from platies. What should I feed them and
can they live together with their parents? It looks to me that they can swim
away very fast when the big fishes are closing in. Will they be eaten/killed
by parents?

I expected more than just 3. I thought there could be more than 10. Are the
siblings dead already? Does the mother give 1 at time or 10s at time?

[Paul Murray]

In article >, Public Interest wrote:
> I just discovered 3 living fries from platies. What should I feed them and
> can they live together with their parents? It looks to me that they can swim
> away very fast when the big fishes are closing in. Will they be eaten/killed
> by parents?

We've just had the same experience, and found that as long as you have
enough plants or other decorations for the fry to hide amongst, they should
be fine. The only fry we have seen be eaten are two that we tried to keep save
by bringing them up in a small sieve balanced at the top of the tank. Problem
is this conditioned they to stay at the top of the water and have no fear of
the other fish, not exactly good survival instincts. The ones we have left
alone stick to the bottom of the tank amongst the plants and dash away from
the adults easily. They seem to fine enough to eat from algae on the plants
and wood, and probably from food debris on the bottom. The adults seem
interested, and will dart at the fry, but once the fry swim away the adults
lose interest, they don't seem to chase them down or become obsessed.

-Paul

[Public Interest]

Do you know how to tell the age in days of frys? I am not really sure how
old they are right now and how quickly those fries will become adults to
defend or have their own kids. Those are the first fries I found in 3 month
fish history

> In article >,
Public Interest wrote:
> > I just discovered 3 living fries from platies. What should I feed them
and
> > can they live together with their parents? It looks to me that they can
swim
> > away very fast when the big fishes are closing in. Will they be
eaten/killed
> > by parents?
>
> We've just had the same experience, and found that as long as you have
> enough plants or other decorations for the fry to hide amongst, they
should
> be fine. The only fry we have seen be eaten are two that we tried to keep
save
> by bringing them up in a small sieve balanced at the top of the tank.
Problem
> is this conditioned they to stay at the top of the water and have no fear
of
> the other fish, not exactly good survival instincts. The ones we have left
> alone stick to the bottom of the tank amongst the plants and dash away
from
> the adults easily. They seem to fine enough to eat from algae on the
plants
> and wood, and probably from food debris on the bottom. The adults seem
> interested, and will dart at the fry, but once the fry swim away the
adults
> lose interest, they don't seem to chase them down or become obsessed.
>
> -Paul

[Robert Flory]

"Public Interest" > wrote in message
...
> Do you know how to tell the age in days of frys? I am not really sure how
> old they are right now and how quickly those fries will become adults to
> defend or have their own kids. Those are the first fries I found in 3
month
> fish history
>
They won't be your last. If you see three you probably have more hidden.

Bob

[Public Interest]

I just found another one. So I got 4 now.
I really want to tell the age of them term of days. Can you tell me how new
fries look like in their first few different stages, such as just after
birth, start moving, start eating, eat adult food....

I have to ask this again. Do livebearers give 1 birth every day or give 20
births every 4 weeks. Is it a constant going labor or 1 shot for many?



> "Public Interest" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Do you know how to tell the age in days of frys? I am not really sure
how
> > old they are right now and how quickly those fries will become adults to
> > defend or have their own kids. Those are the first fries I found in 3
> month
> > fish history
> >
> They won't be your last. If you see three you probably have more hidden.
>
> Bob
>
>

[Robert Flory]

more like 100 every month or so.

Bob

"Public Interest" > wrote in message
...
> I just found another one. So I got 4 now.
> I really want to tell the age of them term of days. Can you tell me how
new
> fries look like in their first few different stages, such as just after
> birth, start moving, start eating, eat adult food....
>
> I have to ask this again. Do livebearers give 1 birth every day or give 20
> births every 4 weeks. Is it a constant going labor or 1 shot for many?
>
>
>
> > "Public Interest" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Do you know how to tell the age in days of frys? I am not really sure
> how
> > > old they are right now and how quickly those fries will become adults
to
> > > defend or have their own kids. Those are the first fries I found in 3
> > month
> > > fish history
> > >
> > They won't be your last. If you see three you probably have more
hidden.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
>
>

[Public Interest]

are you kidding me? Those are livebearers. They can not hold that many as
egg layers do. i think 10 at most per labor, because what i found are like
2-3 mms. if you say 100, why i only found 4? others all dead or eaten?

"Robert Flory" > дÈëÓʼþ
...
> more like 100 every month or so.
>
> Bob
>
> "Public Interest" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I just found another one. So I got 4 now.
> > I really want to tell the age of them term of days. Can you tell me how
> new
> > fries look like in their first few different stages, such as just after
> > birth, start moving, start eating, eat adult food....
> >
> > I have to ask this again. Do livebearers give 1 birth every day or give
20
> > births every 4 weeks. Is it a constant going labor or 1 shot for many?
> >
> >
> >
> > > "Public Interest" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Do you know how to tell the age in days of frys? I am not really
sure
> > how
> > > > old they are right now and how quickly those fries will become
adults
> to
> > > > defend or have their own kids. Those are the first fries I found in
3
> > > month
> > > > fish history
> > > >
> > > They won't be your last. If you see three you probably have more
> hidden.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Surgicalrn]

My guppy had about 6 or seven babies over the course of one nite. She has
since had about 4 more over the course of a couple of days and she looks
like she's gonna pop so I'm expecting still more to come! Good thing I left
the tank overgrown with hornwort.

[Paul Murray]

In article >, Public Interest wrote:
> I just found another one. So I got 4 now.
> I really want to tell the age of them term of days. Can you tell me how new
> fries look like in their first few different stages, such as just after
> birth, start moving, start eating, eat adult food....

Hard to be exact, as I don't know exactly when ours gave birth, didn't
realise they had until we saw the first fry.
We now seem to have two separate bunches of fry, which makes it a bit easier
to see the differences.

Brand new platy fry are very very difficult to spot. They are maybe 4/5 mm
long, have very small normal looking eyes, and a 1.5/2 mm coloured area
behind their eyes, but their tail is totally transparant. Add the fact that
the coloured area is pretty close to sand coloured, and they are pretty well
hidden. (Wagtails are easier to spot, as they have tiny black fins)

They become bolder day by day, and you will start seeing more of them. At
first we thought we had only two fry in the tank, as that is all we ever saw
at once. Then a few days later we saw three. Then four.

The batch that are a week or so older are much more like little fish. They
have colour through the body, properly shaped tails and fins, and they
behave pretty much like their parents do. Pretty funny to see a couple of
adults nipping algae off the back wall, and a little fry nearby doing
exactly the same thing. At age about two weeks they are much bolder, they
will travel round most of the floor of the tank, although they stick mainly
to the wood and plants. They still stay in the bottom third of the tank
almost exclusively, although some of that may be that we have reasonably
fast moving water at the top of the tank. They are probably about 10/12mm
long now.

Apart from the attempt to rear fry in a sieve at the top of the tank, we
haven't made any attempt to feed the other fry, or make any other
arrangements for them. They seem to be growing fine eating algae and small
particles of adult food. When we fed freeze dried brine shrimp, you could
see the fry grabbing tiny bits out of the water as it got nearer the safety
of the plants.

-Paul

[RedForeman ©®]

one of my female guppies just had 45+ babies, and I think they can have
more... up to 100 or so...

by the 3rd night, I was down to 12, so yes, they are eaten mostly, some may
die from being sucked into the filters, but mostly are fish bait unless
secured by a breeder net or some other way to seperate them....


"Public Interest" > wrote in message
...
> are you kidding me? Those are livebearers. They can not hold that many as
> egg layers do. i think 10 at most per labor, because what i found are like
> 2-3 mms. if you say 100, why i only found 4? others all dead or eaten?
>
> "Robert Flory" > дÈëÓʼþ
> ...
> > more like 100 every month or so.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > "Public Interest" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I just found another one. So I got 4 now.
> > > I really want to tell the age of them term of days. Can you tell me
how
> > new
> > > fries look like in their first few different stages, such as just
after
> > > birth, start moving, start eating, eat adult food....
> > >
> > > I have to ask this again. Do livebearers give 1 birth every day or
give
> 20
> > > births every 4 weeks. Is it a constant going labor or 1 shot for many?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > "Public Interest" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Do you know how to tell the age in days of frys? I am not really
> sure
> > > how
> > > > > old they are right now and how quickly those fries will become
> adults
> > to
> > > > > defend or have their own kids. Those are the first fries I found
in
> 3
> > > > month
> > > > > fish history
> > > > >
> > > > They won't be your last. If you see three you probably have more
> > hidden.
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Paul Murray]

In article >, Paul Murray wrote:
> In article >, Public Interest wrote:
>> I just found another one. So I got 4 now.
>> I really want to tell the age of them term of days. Can you tell me how new
>> fries look like in their first few different stages, such as just after
>> birth, start moving, start eating, eat adult food....
> Hard to be exact, as I don't know exactly when ours gave birth, didn't
> realise they had until we saw the first fry.
> We now seem to have two separate bunches of fry, which makes it a bit easier
> to see the differences.

I've tried to get some pictures of them to give you an idea, but don't
really have the right equipment, so the quality isn't great. In particular
it is very hard to get shots of the younger fry, as they are hardly ever
seen, and always hiding. (If you can't fin him in the picture, he's hiding
in the plant, about the middle of the picture.

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4288898935

-Paul

[Public Interest]

According to the size you said 4/5 mm, can I conclude that the ones I found
which are 2-3mm are not new borns, but maybe 1 week or 1 month old? Another
quesiton is how I can seperate the fries with parents? They are too small
and pretty fast..

[Public Interest]

By the way, when you say 4/5 and 1.5/2 do you mean 0.8 and 0.75? or do you
mean 4 to 5 and 1.5 to 2?