Tank-cycle, Tank-cycle, I want my tank to tank-cycle (I hear Queen!)...

[Carol Shenkenberger]

I know the feeling! Harsh but true.

The tank just has to cycle and finish before any more 'toys' are added.
Especially since these 'toys' are living beings.

The pleco is wrong for the tank. I do not have one even in my 70G tank (did
at one time, found it a good home luckily enough). A dwarf catfish would
work but no more than that and only once the tank is done cycling. Due to
the damage he has done, that may require a complete cleanout of the tank of
all the chemicals and drugs.

Neil, you almost need to start over. Do not get any more fish. Take the
pleco back to the store.

Swap out 50% of your water and most of the gravel, then let the tank
natually cycle. It will turn milky-cloud white for about a week. Thats
normal. Do not use chemicals to clear the water at that stage. Just let it
ride. You will end up with a crystal clean tank that is self maintaning
almost, if you do not overload it.

[NSP]

Hi all,

My tank is still cycling and all I have left include:

2 Guppies (male & female)
1 baby guppy
1 Pleco
1 Male Platy (questionable future)
1 Female Dwarf Gourami (questionable future)
1 Zebra Daneo (questionable future)

Keeping in mind that I have a 25 gallon tank (accoriding to the
measurements of the tank. Officially, the tank is 23 gallons), I was
wondering if you all could recommend some fish to fill it with.

I was hoping to get some cichlidaes for the tank, but my reading
indicates that most will probably gobble up the survivers of the last
stocking fiasco, and with the whole territory business, it could
create a lot of complications.

I'd really like to get some bigger, more interesting fish.

Any recommendations?

I know there is some controversy about this - do Parrot Fish fit in
the scheme of things? Are they freshwater or marine?

Regards,
Neil

[0rion]

"NSP" > wrote in message
om...
> Hi all,
>
> My tank is still cycling and all I have left include:
>
> 2 Guppies (male & female)
> 1 baby guppy
> 1 Pleco
> 1 Male Platy (questionable future)
> 1 Female Dwarf Gourami (questionable future)
> 1 Zebra Daneo (questionable future)
>
> Keeping in mind that I have a 25 gallon tank (accoriding to the
> measurements of the tank. Officially, the tank is 23 gallons), I was
> wondering if you all could recommend some fish to fill it with.
>
> I was hoping to get some cichlidaes for the tank, but my reading
> indicates that most will probably gobble up the survivers of the last
> stocking fiasco, and with the whole territory business, it could
> create a lot of complications.
>
> I'd really like to get some bigger, more interesting fish.
>
> Any recommendations?
>
> I know there is some controversy about this - do Parrot Fish fit in
> the scheme of things? Are they freshwater or marine?
>
> Regards,
> Neil

you're doing yourself and your fish a terrible disservice by even
considering this

the pleco by itself is far too big for a 25 gallon tank, and will outgrow it
rapidly

you obviously don't listen or read anything before coming on here and asking
your questions.. you just got over a major epidemic in your tank and
numerous fish died... now it's not even done cycling, you haven't cleared
out the disease yet, it's overstocked, and you're asking how many BIGGER
MORE INTERESTING FISH you can get?


hey i have an idea.. go work at petsmart, they hire people like you in a
heartbeat.

[Paulo]

Kind of upsetting...so many good advices..but he is doesnt care much about
learning

--
Paulo
"0rion" > wrote in message
...
>
> "NSP" > wrote in message
> om...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > My tank is still cycling and all I have left include:
> >
> > 2 Guppies (male & female)
> > 1 baby guppy
> > 1 Pleco
> > 1 Male Platy (questionable future)
> > 1 Female Dwarf Gourami (questionable future)
> > 1 Zebra Daneo (questionable future)
> >
> > Keeping in mind that I have a 25 gallon tank (accoriding to the
> > measurements of the tank. Officially, the tank is 23 gallons), I was
> > wondering if you all could recommend some fish to fill it with.
> >
> > I was hoping to get some cichlidaes for the tank, but my reading
> > indicates that most will probably gobble up the survivers of the last
> > stocking fiasco, and with the whole territory business, it could
> > create a lot of complications.
> >
> > I'd really like to get some bigger, more interesting fish.
> >
> > Any recommendations?
> >
> > I know there is some controversy about this - do Parrot Fish fit in
> > the scheme of things? Are they freshwater or marine?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Neil
>
> you're doing yourself and your fish a terrible disservice by even
> considering this
>
> the pleco by itself is far too big for a 25 gallon tank, and will outgrow
it
> rapidly
>
> you obviously don't listen or read anything before coming on here and
asking
> your questions.. you just got over a major epidemic in your tank and
> numerous fish died... now it's not even done cycling, you haven't cleared
> out the disease yet, it's overstocked, and you're asking how many BIGGER
> MORE INTERESTING FISH you can get?
>
>
> hey i have an idea.. go work at petsmart, they hire people like you in a
> heartbeat.
>
>

[blove]

get a bigger tank like a 75 gallon tank for cichlids and even then do ALOT
of RESEARCH on each fish to see if you can offer EVERYTHING the particular
fish needs to live a long happy life.


"NSP" > wrote in message
om...
> Hi all,
>
> My tank is still cycling and all I have left include:
>
> 2 Guppies (male & female)
> 1 baby guppy
> 1 Pleco
> 1 Male Platy (questionable future)
> 1 Female Dwarf Gourami (questionable future)
> 1 Zebra Daneo (questionable future)
>
> Keeping in mind that I have a 25 gallon tank (accoriding to the
> measurements of the tank. Officially, the tank is 23 gallons), I was
> wondering if you all could recommend some fish to fill it with.
>
> I was hoping to get some cichlidaes for the tank, but my reading
> indicates that most will probably gobble up the survivers of the last
> stocking fiasco, and with the whole territory business, it could
> create a lot of complications.
>
> I'd really like to get some bigger, more interesting fish.
>
> Any recommendations?
>
> I know there is some controversy about this - do Parrot Fish fit in
> the scheme of things? Are they freshwater or marine?
>
> Regards,
> Neil

[0rion]

"blove" > wrote in message
...
> get a bigger tank like a 75 gallon tank for cichlids and even then do ALOT
> of RESEARCH on each fish to see if you can offer EVERYTHING the particular
> fish needs to live a long happy life.
>

i think it's safe to say from past experiences that neil is far from the
type who would do months of research before getting or taking care of
fish.... i was on this newsgroup for a good 3 months before i even filled my
tank with water, and it's the best thing i ever did.

most of his problems could have been avoided and the consequences less harsh
had he actually studied.

[Victor Martinez]

Haven't you killed enough fish already?


--
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[Acgelok]

you obviously don't listen or read anything before coming on here and asking
your questions.. you just got over a major epidemic in your tank and
numerous fish died... now it's not even done cycling, you haven't cleared
out the disease yet, it's overstocked, and you're asking how many BIGGER
MORE INTERESTING FISH you can get?


hey i have an idea.. go work at petsmart, they hire people like you in a
heartbeat. < snip
I.M.H.O. fish keeping is NOT an idle hobby it requires serious study and info
gathering to succesfully support life environments for living creatures,
however jumping down a newbie's throat is a good way to turn them away from
what can be a very rewarding hobbie! Just had to put in my $ 0.02 worth
regards Art

[Sarah]

I agreee that he has made a huge error in setting up his tank and that
he shouldn't get any more fish for the time being. I don't agree on
the (lack) of advice he's getting. He's here because he's realized
that he made a mistake.

The reason this forum is here is for people like him who jumped into a
tank with both feet and are now sinking fast. Rather than tell him
how he made a huge mistake, shouldn't we be giving advice on how to
correct the problem?


As for my advice, I could give it but seeing as I'm a novice (only
about 8 months experience on 4 tanks), I will let the veterans help
him out.

Sarah


"0rion" > wrote in message >...
> "blove" > wrote in message
> ...
> > get a bigger tank like a 75 gallon tank for cichlids and even then do ALOT
> > of RESEARCH on each fish to see if you can offer EVERYTHING the particular
> > fish needs to live a long happy life.
> >
>
> i think it's safe to say from past experiences that neil is far from the
> type who would do months of research before getting or taking care of
> fish.... i was on this newsgroup for a good 3 months before i even filled my
> tank with water, and it's the best thing i ever did.
>
> most of his problems could have been avoided and the consequences less harsh
> had he actually studied.

[NSP]

You know, I can appreciate that I may not know all there is to know
about fish. And yes, I have read all that has been posted in this
group and sites like fishprofiles.com and thekrib.com, etc.

However, I see no cause to put me down. It's a shame that fish can't
talk, as I'm sure if they could, they would teach some unnamed
aquarium veterans on some simple people skills. I guess that's the
problem when a hobby is taken too far.

That said, I don't recall stating that I was planning a big trip to
the pet shop this weekend with plans to fill my tank up. I posted the
message so I can plan for the future and get some ideas - as my
current tank survivors will determine species compatibility.

Regards,
Neil

[Cris]

Alright everyone, I think that's enough flaming for now.

Neil, I'm glad you're just asking for advice on *future* stocking.
That wasn't clear in your last post.

Which fish you will find the most interesting will be a very personal
decision. Everyone has their own favorites. My suggestion is that
you go to your local stores, browse some books and decide on one fish
are your favorite. Make sure it is not a very difficult species and
that you can provide the right environment for it. Then build the
rest of the community (if it will be a community) to the compatibility
of that fish. Do a bit of research on the fish and ask some questions
here about its needs and what might be compatible *before* you buy
anything. Choosing your favorite fish might be tough and confusing -
it can take quite a bit of time and research.

Good luck,
Cris


On 23 Nov 2003 10:14:06 -0800, (NSP) wrote:

>You know, I can appreciate that I may not know all there is to know
>about fish. And yes, I have read all that has been posted in this
>group and sites like fishprofiles.com and thekrib.com, etc.
>
>However, I see no cause to put me down. It's a shame that fish can't
>talk, as I'm sure if they could, they would teach some unnamed
>aquarium veterans on some simple people skills. I guess that's the
>problem when a hobby is taken too far.
>
>That said, I don't recall stating that I was planning a big trip to
>the pet shop this weekend with plans to fill my tank up. I posted the
>message so I can plan for the future and get some ideas - as my
>current tank survivors will determine species compatibility.
>
>Regards,
>Neil

[0rion]

"Sarah" > wrote in message
om...
> I agreee that he has made a huge error in setting up his tank and that
> he shouldn't get any more fish for the time being. I don't agree on
> the (lack) of advice he's getting. He's here because he's realized
> that he made a mistake.
>
> The reason this forum is here is for people like him who jumped into a
> tank with both feet and are now sinking fast. Rather than tell him
> how he made a huge mistake, shouldn't we be giving advice on how to
> correct the problem?

that's where you're wrong. you say he realized he had a mistake? he just
came and asked which LARGE fish to add to his tank. puh-leeeze!