"starter fish"

[nuchumYussel]

Hi, I have a 29 gallon tank. I am not a novice at this hobby, more of
an intermediate. What fish does anyone here believe would be good to
help the tank cycle. I would like to have some discus at some point, i
dont know if that makes a difference. I was looking at some killifish.
I would be very grateful for any input!

Happy Holidays
Evan Davis

[Dinky]

"nuchumYussel" > wrote in message
om...
> Hi, I have a 29 gallon tank. I am not a novice at this hobby, more of
> an intermediate. What fish does anyone here believe would be good to
> help the tank cycle. I would like to have some discus at some point, i
> dont know if that makes a difference. I was looking at some killifish.
> I would be very grateful for any input!
>
> Happy Holidays
> Evan Davis

If you're not into fishless cycling (you should be) go with hardy fish like
danios and barbs. I actually use goldfish, as they produce a large amount of
ammonia in a hurry, and I can stock the tank with a larger number of fish
sooner. Many have told me this is a terrible idea, but it's worked well for
me for many years.

[nanoreef]

nuchumYussel may have written:
> Hi, I have a 29 gallon tank. I am not a novice at this hobby, more of
> an intermediate. What fish does anyone here believe would be good to
> help the tank cycle.

None. Use fishless cycling. It is the modern way to cycle a tank.
It is absolutely the best way to cycle a tank.

http://www.tomgriffin.com/aquamag/cycle2.html

for more info

http://www.google.com/search?q=fishless+cycling

[TZ]

Inexpensive fish are usually the most hardy.

If you are planning on keeping the 'cycle' fish, you should
select some which will get along with the discus.

While zebra danios are very inexpensive, they would not
make good tankmates for discus because they move too
fast which will stress them and they will get all the food.

Guppies are relatively cheap and hardy, but they prefer
salty and cool water, thus they are not going to be happy
with the conditions which the discus want.

Maybe some ghost shrimps? Or a male betta which you
can then remove later and keep in a vase?

TZ





"nuchumYussel" > wrote in message
om...
> Hi, I have a 29 gallon tank. I am not a novice at this hobby, more of
> an intermediate. What fish does anyone here believe would be good to
> help the tank cycle. I would like to have some discus at some point, i
> dont know if that makes a difference. I was looking at some killifish.
> I would be very grateful for any input!
>
> Happy Holidays
> Evan Davis

[TYNK 7]

>Subject: "starter fish"
>From: (nuchumYussel)
>Date: 11/29/2003 8:47 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Hi, I have a 29 gallon tank. I am not a novice at this hobby, more of
>an intermediate. What fish does anyone here believe would be good to
>help the tank cycle.

None.
Why not use a fishless cycle, or buying a product called BioSpira-made by
Marineland.
That is a bacteria starter that has the correct type of bacteria in it. ALL the
others don't. Don't let anyone tell you they're the same either, as they are
not.
Products like Cycle, and Bio Zyme are garbage...waste of your money, gas and
time.
Fishless cycling is done by using household ammonia (unscented, plain old
gerneric) to supply the nitrifying bacteria food that they need to survive and
multiply.
The BioSpira *is* that bacteria and even though it's not cheap (a dose for a
29g will run you about $15-20), you add it, and the fish and they're all fine.
No new tank syndrome to go through..no stress or burned gills from ammonia
spikes, and best of all...no deaths from it all.
It is hard to find though. If you have a PetLand chain store out by your neck
of the woods...call them and ask. If they don't carry it, ask if they can get
it.
This stuff needs to be refrigerated and is probably the reason that most shops
don't carry it.

[TYNK 7]

>Subject: Re: "starter fish"
>From: "TZ"
>Date: 11/30/2003 8:55 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id:

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>Maybe some ghost shrimps? Or a male betta which you
>can then remove later and keep in a vase?

Bettas don't really belong in those vases. They are tropical fish that thrive
in temps of 78-80*f, and also need more room than a vase can provide.
They also do much better in filtered water, as opposed to a cold, unfiltered,
cramped vase or bowl.

[GreenPencil]

Always trying to think outside the box, even though sometimes it's
gross...

You could start a fishless cycling by peeing into your tank. Not a
whole bladderful, but rather a few drops. There is a lot of nitrogen
in pee, and the bacteria will begin to multiply.

This is easier if you are a guy. (The peeing part, not the bacteria
multiplying).

[TYNK 7]

>Subject: Re: "starter fish"
>From: (GreenPencil)
>Date: 12/1/2003 7:57 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Always trying to think outside the box, even though sometimes it's
>gross...
>
>You could start a fishless cycling by peeing into your tank. Not a
>whole bladderful, but rather a few drops. There is a lot of nitrogen
>in pee, and the bacteria will begin to multiply.
>
>This is easier if you are a guy. (The peeing part, not the bacteria
>multiplying).
>

That's simply disgusting.
Why would anyone even think of doing that.
Just use plain household ammonia.

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So that explains it... It is simple to judge the intelligence of a person by
what they type....

Great, that makes you a moron, or an idiot..... Not sure which...

Something tells me the trolls are out in force this winter....

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