A tale of 2 dwarf frogs

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I got two African Dwarf Frogs (Gary and Emanuelle) 2 months ago. A month
ago, I noticed that one was flat stomached, while the other had a big belly.

Today, I noticed that one's actually grown twice the size of the other.

What's going on here?


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> I got two African Dwarf Frogs (Gary and Emanuelle) 2 months ago. A month
> ago, I noticed that one was flat stomached, while the other had a big
belly.
>
> Today, I noticed that one's actually grown twice the size of the other.
>
> What's going on here?
>
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> "The main difference between Bosnia and Palestine is that ethnic cleansing
> in the former took place in the form of dramatic massacres and slaughters
> which caught the world's attention, whereas in Palestine what is taking
> place is a drop-by-drop tactic in which one or two houses are demolished
> daily, a few acres are taken here and there every day, a few people are
> forced to leave"
> -Edward Said (Washington Report
09/1998)
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[blove]

dwarf frogs get about 2 inches, females are bigger then males. are you
positive that they are true dwarfs? are both front feet and back feet
webbed or is only the back feet webbed? are both frogs eating?


> wrote in message
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> I got two African Dwarf Frogs (Gary and Emanuelle) 2 months ago. A month
> ago, I noticed that one was flat stomached, while the other had a big
belly.
>
> Today, I noticed that one's actually grown twice the size of the other.
>
> What's going on here?
>
>
> --
>
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>
> "The main difference between Bosnia and Palestine is that ethnic cleansing
> in the former took place in the form of dramatic massacres and slaughters
> which caught the world's attention, whereas in Palestine what is taking
> place is a drop-by-drop tactic in which one or two houses are demolished
> daily, a few acres are taken here and there every day, a few people are
> forced to leave"
> -Edward Said (Washington Report
09/1998)
>
>
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blove > wrote:
> dwarf frogs get about 2 inches, females are bigger then males. are you
> positive that they are true dwarfs? are both front feet and back feet
> webbed or is only the back feet webbed? are both frogs eating?

1 is about 1.1 inches, the other is about .8 inches.

Bloat may be a factor, but there is also an overall size/length difference.

I'm pretty sure they are dwarfs. I've had dwarfs before, and can easily
tell them from African Claw.

I don't know if both are eating or not, as I don't pay much attention -
although I do plan to tonight.


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[Tedd Jacobs]

> wrote in message
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> I got two African Dwarf Frogs (Gary and Emanuelle) 2 months ago. A month
> ago, I noticed that one was flat stomached, while the other had a big belly.
>
> Today, I noticed that one's actually grown twice the size of the other.
>
> What's going on here?
>

could be one of three things;

1.) bloat.
2.) internal parasite.
3.) perfectly normal.

on 1.) i cant help you, i've never had that with mine *knock on wood*, though
from what i have read, when one gets bloat it is very obvious. (dont ask me
how).
on 2.) watch for loss in size, sunken sides and stomach.
on 3.) watch for frequent molting or shedding of skin.

because most ADF's are malnourished and underfed at the LFS, rapid growth is
normal for newly acquired ADF's in the first couple months. that having been
said, in my experience with them it usually takes about 6 months before the size
difference between males and the larger females to become blatantly apparent.

another thing to consider, they may be different sub-species of ADF's.

HTH. best of luck.

tedd.

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>another thing to consider, they may be different sub-species of ADF's.

What would they be?
I've seen ones that stayed the typical size.
However, I have seen some labled "extra large" and be quite fat, but not have
bloat.
Are these a subspecies that are larger, or are these obese Dwarfs?
I have 4 ADF and they are well fed on Blood Worms. They have good size guts on
them, but they haven't ever gotten near the size of these "extra large" ones at
PetSmart. I've had my Froggies for several months, maybe even close to a year.
They've all grown and are in great shape.

[Mike Edwardes]

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> 1 is about 1.1 inches, the other is about .8 inches.
>
> Bloat may be a factor, but there is also an overall size/length difference.
>
> I'm pretty sure they are dwarfs. I've had dwarfs before, and can easily
> tell them from African Claw.
>
> I don't know if both are eating or not, as I don't pay much attention -
> although I do plan to tonight.

Take a look at:
http://mike-edwardes.members.beeb.net/Amphibiary/Hymenochirus.html

Do they look like the pictures there (male/female) or fatter?
Overfeeding these frogs is dangerous - only feed them every other day,
and then only as much food as they can eat in 15-30 minutes.

Mike.
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