Chiller choice?

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Hi All,
I recently upgraded my lights to include MH's and, of course, have seen a jump
in tank temp. It looks like I'll be in the market for a chiller and would
appreciate an reccomendations. I have a 130 gal with a 25 gal sump. I think I'm
looking at about a 1/4 hp, at this point, so noise is a factor. Anyone using the
drop in coil type? Any help and/or advice would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Kel


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The Road Goes On Forever And The Party Never Ends.

[Wayne Sallee]

You can also put a fan over the aquarium. Having the fan
blow acros the water can cool the tank well via
evaporative cooling. The cool down potential of a fan is 8
to 9 degrees below room temperature.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



wrote on 3/2/2006 10:32 AM:
> Hi All,
> I recently upgraded my lights to include MH's and, of course, have seen a jump
> in tank temp. It looks like I'll be in the market for a chiller and would
> appreciate an reccomendations. I have a 130 gal with a 25 gal sump. I think I'm
> looking at about a 1/4 hp, at this point, so noise is a factor. Anyone using the
> drop in coil type? Any help and/or advice would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Kel
>
>

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Wayne, thats what I was using before, but the new lights ( Outer Orbit) say that
the aquarium must be covered, I guess to prevent splashing to light covers. Also
I wasn't too happy with the fan set-up. It tended to cover a lot of stuff with
salt and increased my "salt creep". I 've ben mulling a chiller for a while and
this may be the time.
Thanks, Kel


In article >, Wayne Sallee says...
>
>You can also put a fan over the aquarium. Having the fan
>blow acros the water can cool the tank well via
>evaporative cooling. The cool down potential of a fan is 8
>to 9 degrees below room temperature.
>
>Wayne Sallee
>Wayne's Pets

>
>
wrote on 3/2/2006 10:32 AM:
>> Hi All,
>>I recently upgraded my lights to include MH's and, of course, have seen a jump
>> in tank temp. It looks like I'll be in the market for a chiller and would
>>appreciate an reccomendations. I have a 130 gal with a 25 gal sump. I think I'm
>>looking at about a 1/4 hp, at this point, so noise is a factor. Anyone using the
>> drop in coil type? Any help and/or advice would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Kel
>>
>>


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The Road Goes On Forever And The Party Never Ends.

[Roy]

Well I got ahold of a mini sized refrigeration unit which was used as
a small desktop soda dispensing station. Its resivoir is stainless
steel. It is constructed out of all stainless and a plastic material.
Compressor draws 3.2 amps and is rated at 1/12th hp runs off 115vac.
While it may not be "titanium" I do belive it will work just fine in
the long run. There are three resivoirs which are chilled, and it also
contains mixing pumps, dispensing pump etc, fully functional. ONly the
carbonation device was removed before they sold them. I see great
future uses for it fo holding things like kalkwasser or top off water
etc. Cost was $29.95 plus shipping (weights about #50 pounds)

I have it hooked up to a 29 gal tank right now and its been keeping my
water temps low.....There is no brass parts that come in contact with
the water or liquids, just stainless.....What grade alloy of stainless
it is is anyones guess but with what it was advertised as being used
for (cooling juices, wines, soda etc) it should be a decent grade of
stainless. Sales clerk also stated they had the units with
polyethylene resivoirs or stainless. I went with stainless as it lends
itself to being modified more than some plastic materials do and its
more efficieint in heat / cold transfer. Only time will tell how well
it holds up.

On 2 Mar 2006 07:32:23 -0800, wrote:
>><>Hi All,
>><>I recently upgraded my lights to include MH's and, of course, have seen a jump
>><>in tank temp. It looks like I'll be in the market for a chiller and would
>><>appreciate an reccomendations. I have a 130 gal with a 25 gal sump. I think I'm
>><>looking at about a 1/4 hp, at this point, so noise is a factor. Anyone using the
>><>drop in coil type? Any help and/or advice would be appreciated.
>><>
>><>Thanks in advance
>><>
>><>Kel

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[Roy]

Open top with fans under hood etc should not incduce salt creep as
much as a covered glass top would.

On 2 Mar 2006 09:43:24 -0800, wrote:
>><>Wayne, thats what I was using before, but the new lights ( Outer Orbit) say that
>><>the aquarium must be covered, I guess to prevent splashing to light covers. Also
>><>I wasn't too happy with the fan set-up. It tended to cover a lot of stuff with
>><>salt and increased my "salt creep". I 've ben mulling a chiller for a while and
>><>this may be the time.
>><>Thanks, Kel
>><>
>><>
>><>In article >, Wayne Sallee says...
>><>>
>><>>You can also put a fan over the aquarium. Having the fan
>><>>blow acros the water can cool the tank well via
>><>>evaporative cooling. The cool down potential of a fan is 8
>><>>to 9 degrees below room temperature.
>><>>
>><>>Wayne Sallee
>><>>Wayne's Pets

>><>>
>><>>
wrote on 3/2/2006 10:32 AM:
>><>>> Hi All,
>><>>>I recently upgraded my lights to include MH's and, of course, have seen a jump
>><>>> in tank temp. It looks like I'll be in the market for a chiller and would
>><>>>appreciate an reccomendations. I have a 130 gal with a 25 gal sump. I think I'm
>><>>>looking at about a 1/4 hp, at this point, so noise is a factor. Anyone using the
>><>>> drop in coil type? Any help and/or advice would be appreciated.
>><>>>
>><>>> Thanks in advance
>><>>>
>><>>> Kel
>><>>>
>><>>>

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[David Zopf]

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> Well I got ahold of a mini sized refrigeration unit which was used as
> a small desktop soda dispensing station. Its resivoir is stainless
> steel.<snip> What grade alloy of stainless
> it is is anyones guess but with what it was advertised as being used
> for (cooling juices, wines, soda etc) it should be a decent grade of
> stainless.

Commercial Stainless for direct food contact would most likely be either 316
or (less likely) 304 SS...

DaveZ
Atom Weaver

[wolf]

if you have a drip ro/di then you could priovide more ventilation, this
could keep the temps down enough to eliminate the needs. also, i just
thought of something, what if you patch a seperate pump into the system that
ran water through a spiral coil of any material, such as flexible sprinkler
drip line, then back into the sump, this could allow alot of surface area
for cooling, you could also add a mini-fan into a small box that contained
these coils, just an idea as an alternative to a chiller incase your on that
verge of not really needing one.


> wrote in message ...
> Hi All,
> I recently upgraded my lights to include MH's and, of course, have seen a
> jump
> in tank temp. It looks like I'll be in the market for a chiller and would
> appreciate an reccomendations. I have a 130 gal with a 25 gal sump. I
> think I'm
> looking at about a 1/4 hp, at this point, so noise is a factor. Anyone
> using the
> drop in coil type? Any help and/or advice would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Kel
>
>
> --
> The Road Goes On Forever And The Party Never Ends.

[Roy]

Heat / cold does not transfer all that well when plastics etc are
used. It almost takes a metal tube of titanium or proper stainless
steel alloy for a good transfer of heat or cold to take place. I had
a 50 foot coil of plastic tube inside a container filled with ice one
time to see if it was feasible to play with a home brew chiller,
aafter reading lots of posts online about plastic and similar
materials not working, and thewy were right, not much transfer between
whats in container and the inside of the tube.



On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 20:00:08 GMT, "wolf" ">
wrote:
>><>if you have a drip ro/di then you could priovide more ventilation, this
>><>could keep the temps down enough to eliminate the needs. also, i just
>><>thought of something, what if you patch a seperate pump into the system that
>><>ran water through a spiral coil of any material, such as flexible sprinkler
>><>drip line, then back into the sump, this could allow alot of surface area
>><>for cooling, you could also add a mini-fan into a small box that contained
>><>these coils, just an idea as an alternative to a chiller incase your on that
>><>verge of not really needing one.
>><>
>><>
> wrote in message ...
>><>> Hi All,
>><>> I recently upgraded my lights to include MH's and, of course, have seen a
>><>> jump
>><>> in tank temp. It looks like I'll be in the market for a chiller and would
>><>> appreciate an reccomendations. I have a 130 gal with a 25 gal sump. I
>><>> think I'm
>><>> looking at about a 1/4 hp, at this point, so noise is a factor. Anyone
>><>> using the
>><>> drop in coil type? Any help and/or advice would be appreciated.
>><>>
>><>> Thanks in advance
>><>>
>><>> Kel
>><>>
>><>>
>><>> --
>><>> The Road Goes On Forever And The Party Never Ends.
>><>

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[wolf]

ok, maybe a stainless coil you can find for cheap.

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> Heat / cold does not transfer all that well when plastics etc are
> used. It almost takes a metal tube of titanium or proper stainless
> steel alloy for a good transfer of heat or cold to take place. I had
> a 50 foot coil of plastic tube inside a container filled with ice one
> time to see if it was feasible to play with a home brew chiller,
> aafter reading lots of posts online about plastic and similar
> materials not working, and thewy were right, not much transfer between
> whats in container and the inside of the tube.
>
>
>
> On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 20:00:08 GMT, "wolf" ">
> wrote:
>>><>if you have a drip ro/di then you could priovide more ventilation, this
>>><>could keep the temps down enough to eliminate the needs. also, i just
>>><>thought of something, what if you patch a seperate pump into the system
>>>that
>>><>ran water through a spiral coil of any material, such as flexible
>>>sprinkler
>>><>drip line, then back into the sump, this could allow alot of surface
>>>area
>>><>for cooling, you could also add a mini-fan into a small box that
>>>contained
>>><>these coils, just an idea as an alternative to a chiller incase your on
>>>that
>>><>verge of not really needing one.
>>><>
>>><>
> wrote in message
...
>>><>> Hi All,
>>><>> I recently upgraded my lights to include MH's and, of course, have
>>>seen a
>>><>> jump
>>><>> in tank temp. It looks like I'll be in the market for a chiller and
>>>would
>>><>> appreciate an reccomendations. I have a 130 gal with a 25 gal sump. I
>>><>> think I'm
>>><>> looking at about a 1/4 hp, at this point, so noise is a factor.
>>>Anyone
>>><>> using the
>>><>> drop in coil type? Any help and/or advice would be appreciated.
>>><>>
>>><>> Thanks in advance
>>><>>
>>><>> Kel
>>><>>
>>><>>
>>><>> --
>>><>> The Road Goes On Forever And The Party Never Ends.
>>><>
>
> --
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>
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[Mark Henry]

Roy wrote:

> Heat / cold does not transfer all that well when plastics etc are
> used.
>

My fridge has a cold water dispenser in the door. The way it makes the
incoming water cold is to run it through about 30' of 1/4" plastic water
line that's looped in the back of the fridge behind the chiller drawer.
The water gets pretty darned cold, especially if it sits in that line
for a while.

mark h

[wolf]

sounds like somebody needs to be re routing the ins and outs of this water
dispenser line, hehehehehe.


"Mark Henry" > wrote in message
m...
> Roy wrote:
>
>> Heat / cold does not transfer all that well when plastics etc are
>> used.
>
> My fridge has a cold water dispenser in the door. The way it makes the
> incoming water cold is to run it through about 30' of 1/4" plastic water
> line that's looped in the back of the fridge behind the chiller drawer.
> The water gets pretty darned cold, especially if it sits in that line for
> a while.
>
> mark h
>