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NetMax
January 2nd 04, 04:05 PM
Imagine your local radio station runs a contest to pick someone to stock
their new lobby aquarium, and a chain fish store has agreed to supply the
fish, gravel & rocks, and as many fish as you want (within reason), but
only 2 species. Imagine you won. It's a 5' 100g freshwater tank, lit,
filtered and water parameters as you like. The radio station's
management prefers that the tank is not too much maintenance (you might
oblige them ;o).

Pick 2 species which would interact satisfactorily (long term), gravel &
rock colours.

My pick (to start with something a little unusual ;~) would be:
Black sand and background, dark brown granite stones filling almost 1/2
the tank, a dozen Brichardi (Neolamprologous brichardi), (self-sustaining
population), and ten Monos (Monodactylus argenteus). How's that for an
interesting balance?

your turn...
NetMax

Sajjad Lateef
January 2nd 04, 05:14 PM
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 11:05:27 -0500, NetMax wrote:

> Pick 2 species which would interact satisfactorily (long term), gravel &
> rock colours.

How about just 1 species, 1 specimen tank ...
golden Arrowana with black or dark red flint gravel. No rocks.

It'd be a high-impact tank, especially with good lighting.

RedForeman ©®
January 2nd 04, 07:43 PM
Ok, here goes...

Black Onyx sand
Blue backgroud, gradient from black bottom to dark blue top...
Cobalt Blue discus 6-10
80 neons
planted heavily, with paths thru the amazons
some driftwood near one side, just to the edge of the midground plants...

Or
Texas Holey rock(limestone) from back corner to back corner out 1/2 in
middle
Pick two...
Aulonacara Jacobfreigi
Aulonacara Stuartgranti Neon Blue
Aulonocara Maleri

With this mix, you can keep the plants, they won't care...


just a thought....
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RedForeman ©®





"NetMax" > wrote in message
...
> Imagine your local radio station runs a contest to pick someone to stock
> their new lobby aquarium, and a chain fish store has agreed to supply the
> fish, gravel & rocks, and as many fish as you want (within reason), but
> only 2 species. Imagine you won. It's a 5' 100g freshwater tank, lit,
> filtered and water parameters as you like. The radio station's
> management prefers that the tank is not too much maintenance (you might
> oblige them ;o).
>
> Pick 2 species which would interact satisfactorily (long term), gravel &
> rock colours.
>
> My pick (to start with something a little unusual ;~) would be:
> Black sand and background, dark brown granite stones filling almost 1/2
> the tank, a dozen Brichardi (Neolamprologous brichardi), (self-sustaining
> population), and ten Monos (Monodactylus argenteus). How's that for an
> interesting balance?
>
> your turn...
> NetMax
>
>

Ben
January 2nd 04, 07:48 PM
NetMax wrote:

> Pick 2 species which would interact satisfactorily (long term), gravel &
> rock colours.

I would go with a nice black bottom, maybe onyx sand or gravel.

I'd fill the tank with Endler's Livebearers and Clown loaches!

-Ben

Carlos
January 2nd 04, 08:06 PM
how about a tank with discus (6), full of plants, best lighting available,
and a nice group of neon tetras. that would be a nice addition to my home.


"Sajjad Lateef" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 11:05:27 -0500, NetMax wrote:
>
> > Pick 2 species which would interact satisfactorily (long term), gravel &
> > rock colours.
>
> How about just 1 species, 1 specimen tank ...
> golden Arrowana with black or dark red flint gravel. No rocks.
>
> It'd be a high-impact tank, especially with good lighting.
>
>

luminos
January 2nd 04, 11:23 PM
I just have to say this...the copyright and registered icons on your handle
are meaningless. It is impossible to claim exclusivity on the net with
this.

McEve
January 3rd 04, 02:33 PM
"NetMax" > wrote in message
...
> Imagine your local radio station runs a contest to pick someone to stock
> their new lobby aquarium, and a chain fish store has agreed to supply the
> fish, gravel & rocks, and as many fish as you want (within reason), but
> only 2 species. Imagine you won. It's a 5' 100g freshwater tank, lit,
> filtered and water parameters as you like. The radio station's
> management prefers that the tank is not too much maintenance (you might
> oblige them ;o).
>
> Pick 2 species which would interact satisfactorily (long term), gravel &
> rock colours.
>
> My pick (to start with something a little unusual ;~) would be:
> Black sand and background, dark brown granite stones filling almost 1/2
> the tank, a dozen Brichardi (Neolamprologous brichardi), (self-sustaining
> population), and ten Monos (Monodactylus argenteus). How's that for an
> interesting balance?
>
> your turn...
> NetMax
>
>

I would set up the tank with fine sand covered with riverstones (round,
brown, about 1" large), added lots of driftwood and made sure there was
plenty of deep narrow caves (ie used glass or ceramic vases meant for only
one long stemmed flower buried in the sand). The tank would be set up as a
riverbank, sloping from one side to the next, added a strong current that
went only one way - then added a few ferns in the upper part of the "river"
and in the background behind the driftwood, maybe some Cryptocoryne species.
Then I would put 16 Hypancistrus Zebra in there, two males and 14 females,
and possibly only a small school of tetras (30?) to help keep the tank
healthy in bacteria.

Then I would sit down and wait for Zebra babies :D

TYNK 7
January 3rd 04, 06:14 PM
>Subject: Re: pick 2 types of fish
>From: "Sajjad Lateef"
>Date: 1/2/2004 11:14 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 11:05:27 -0500, NetMax wrote:
>
>> Pick 2 species which would interact satisfactorily (long term), gravel &
>> rock colours.
>
>How about just 1 species, 1 specimen tank ...
>golden Arrowana with black or dark red flint gravel. No rocks.
>
>It'd be a high-impact tank, especially with good lighting.

Being that this tank was for a Lobby...an Arowana would *not* be a good choice.
The people traffic would have that fish up and out of the tank or hitting the
sides an injuring it's self.
Arowanas are very "flighty" and a lobby would not be a good place for them.

TYNK 7
January 3rd 04, 06:16 PM
>Subject: Re: pick 2 types of fish
>From: "RedForeman ©®"
>Date: 1/2/2004 1:43 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Ok, here goes...
>
>Black Onyx sand
>Blue backgroud, gradient from black bottom to dark blue top...
>Cobalt Blue discus 6-10
>80 neons
>planted heavily, with paths thru the amazons
>some driftwood near one side, just to the edge of the midground plants...
>

THAT'S what I was thinking!
Even the Marlboro Red Discus, but Neons or Cardinals and Discus...yeah!
I recently saw the Black Onyx sand for the first time. I love that stuff. Too
bad it's so costly, or I would have used it for my brand new 75g.

NetMax
January 3rd 04, 06:58 PM
"TYNK 7" > wrote in message
...
> >Subject: Re: pick 2 types of fish
> >From: "RedForeman ©®"
> >Date: 1/2/2004 1:43 PM Central Standard Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >Ok, here goes...
> >
> >Black Onyx sand
> >Blue backgroud, gradient from black bottom to dark blue top...
> >Cobalt Blue discus 6-10
> >80 neons
> >planted heavily, with paths thru the amazons
> >some driftwood near one side, just to the edge of the midground
plants...
> >
>
> THAT'S what I was thinking!
> Even the Marlboro Red Discus, but Neons or Cardinals and Discus...yeah!
> I recently saw the Black Onyx sand for the first time. I love that
stuff. Too
> bad it's so costly, or I would have used it for my brand new 75g.

OK, someone must be cheating here ;~) Where I work, the first tank is an
Oceanic 135g filled to the rafters with plants (it serves as my plant
display tank). The only fish are five 4" Marlboro Red Discus (or Red
Pandas depending on what book you read, they are bright red with white
faces). I have them alone because hopefully they will pair off soon, so
that I can have some fry to show off :o). I also have a DAS 100g with a
variety of Discus and the traditional Cardinal tetras (and a few
Harlequin rasboras just to annoy the biotope purists ;~). In my Discus
sale tanks, I have some 4" Blue Cobalts which are gorgeous and would look
awesome with the Reds in the 135g, but then I might mess up the Panda
strain if they pair off Blue+Red.

...... hmmm Blue Pandas?
NetMax

pausto
January 3rd 04, 10:08 PM
Though I am way new at this (2 years), I do have some favorite fish
of which I can pick 2. My ultimate favorite are clown loaches (if I
ever get cut down to one tank, there will be clown loaches). To
accentuate that, some turquoise rainbows. I think the pH requirements
are different for these fishes, but this is kind of a wish thing,
right? Dark brown/black stone and gravel. No background (I like the
'end of the tank against the wall' thing).


NetMax wrote:
>
> Imagine your local radio station runs a contest to pick someone to stock
> their new lobby aquarium, and a chain fish store has agreed to supply the
> fish, gravel & rocks, and as many fish as you want (within reason), but
> only 2 species. Imagine you won. It's a 5' 100g freshwater tank, lit,
> filtered and water parameters as you like. The radio station's
> management prefers that the tank is not too much maintenance (you might
> oblige them ;o).
>
> Pick 2 species which would interact satisfactorily (long term), gravel &
> rock colours.
>
> My pick (to start with something a little unusual ;~) would be:
> Black sand and background, dark brown granite stones filling almost 1/2
> the tank, a dozen Brichardi (Neolamprologous brichardi), (self-sustaining
> population), and ten Monos (Monodactylus argenteus). How's that for an
> interesting balance?
>
> your turn...
> NetMax

Dave Engle
January 4th 04, 05:58 PM
"luminos" > wrote in message
...
> I just have to say this...the copyright and registered icons on
your handle
> are meaningless. It is impossible to claim exclusivity on the net
with
> this.

You obviously aren't familiar with the petSwarehouse.com lawsuit...
--
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Sue
January 4th 04, 11:36 PM
My own preference would be for a heavily planted tank with a pair of
Mesonauta festivus and 20 Corydoras sterbai but the planting would take too
much maintenance so I'd go with a tank I saw some years ago;-
Pale sand, long thin vine branches or spindly bogwood with clumps of java
fern, salvinia to give dappled lighting, a few clusters of cobbles.
20 Congo tetras, 10 upside down catfish. Beauty & the beast?
BTW how long would Tanganyikans & brackish fish thrive together?
Sue


a dozen Brichardi (Neolamprologous brichardi), (self-sustaining
> population), and ten Monos (Monodactylus argenteus). How's that for an
> interesting balance?
>
> your turn...
> NetMax
>
>

RedForeman ©®
January 5th 04, 03:07 PM
If you have to comment, you don't have a clue....

....you display your intelligence so brightly, I close my eyes when you come
around....
--

RedForeman ©®





"luminos" > wrote in message
...
> I just have to say this...the copyright and registered icons on your
handle
> are meaningless. It is impossible to claim exclusivity on the net with
> this.
>
>

RedForeman ©®
January 5th 04, 03:09 PM
--

RedForeman ©®





"NetMax" > wrote in message
> "TYNK 7" > wrote in message
> > >Subject: Re: pick 2 types of fish
> > >From: "RedForeman ©®"
> > >Date: 1/2/2004 1:43 PM Central Standard Time
> > >Ok, here goes...
> > >Black Onyx sand
> > >Blue backgroud, gradient from black bottom to dark blue top...
> > >Cobalt Blue discus 6-10
> > >80 neons
> > >planted heavily, with paths thru the amazons
> > >some driftwood near one side, just to the edge of the midground
> plants...
> > >
> >
> > THAT'S what I was thinking!
> > Even the Marlboro Red Discus, but Neons or Cardinals and Discus...yeah!
> > I recently saw the Black Onyx sand for the first time. I love that
> stuff. Too
> > bad it's so costly, or I would have used it for my brand new 75g.
>
> OK, someone must be cheating here ;~) Where I work, the first tank is an
> Oceanic 135g filled to the rafters with plants (it serves as my plant
> display tank). The only fish are five 4" Marlboro Red Discus (or Red
> Pandas depending on what book you read, they are bright red with white
> faces). I have them alone because hopefully they will pair off soon, so
> that I can have some fry to show off :o). I also have a DAS 100g with a
> variety of Discus and the traditional Cardinal tetras (and a few
> Harlequin rasboras just to annoy the biotope purists ;~). In my Discus
> sale tanks, I have some 4" Blue Cobalts which are gorgeous and would look
> awesome with the Reds in the 135g, but then I might mess up the Panda
> strain if they pair off Blue+Red.
>
> ..... hmmm Blue Pandas?
> NetMax

Sorry NetMax, no cheating here, too far away.... but like they say, great
minds.... hahaha....

I did see a tank that had my ideal setup once, but it was a huge aquarium
display, but done quite nicely....

Sajjad Lateef
January 5th 04, 04:35 PM
On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 18:14:18 +0000, TYNK 7 wrote:

>>Subject: Re: pick 2 types of fish
>>From: "Sajjad Lateef"
>>Date: 1/2/2004 11:14 AM Central Standard Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
>>On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 11:05:27 -0500, NetMax wrote:
>>
>>> Pick 2 species which would interact satisfactorily (long term), gravel &
>>> rock colours.
>>
>>How about just 1 species, 1 specimen tank ...
>>golden Arrowana with black or dark red flint gravel. No rocks.
>>
>>It'd be a high-impact tank, especially with good lighting.
>
> Being that this tank was for a Lobby...an Arowana would *not* be a good choice.
> The people traffic would have that fish up and out of the tank or hitting the
> sides an injuring it's self.
> Arowanas are very "flighty" and a lobby would not be a good place for them.

Yeah, they tend to skittish and tend to jump out and even push the cover
out when they really want to jump. A couple of bricks are needed on the
cover.

But, boy, are they a stunning fish or what! Slow and graceful, but,
you know it's got some muscle.

luminos
January 5th 04, 10:42 PM
You both are wrong. The citation is meaningless.

"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
...
> If you have to comment, you don't have a clue....
>
> ...you display your intelligence so brightly, I close my eyes when you
come
> around....
> --
>
> RedForeman ©®
>
>
>
>
>
> "luminos" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I just have to say this...the copyright and registered icons on your
> handle
> > are meaningless. It is impossible to claim exclusivity on the net with
> > this.
> >
> >
>
>

NetMax
January 6th 04, 01:36 AM
I've used monos as dither for mbuna 2 (or 3?) times. Each time, I gave
the fish away when I was making a long distance move, and I knew the
aquariums would not be set up for a few months. They were around 3 to 4
years old when I gave them away. I never treated the monos as brackish
fish. In nature they hatch in freshwater streams and make their way
downstream to marine conditions as they grow up. My aquarium was a very
long river for them ;~) I was using a bit of salt in my water, but
nothing significant. They never reached full size, either from the
non-ideal water conditions, or perhaps the tank was too small (only 5').
I miss them more than my mbuna, which despite their hijinks, it's still
nice to reset the tank to all new fresh African juveniles periodically.
The monos are more like a fine wine, which gets better with age.

NetMax

"Sue" > wrote in message
...
<snip>
> 20 Congo tetras, 10 upside down catfish. Beauty & the beast?
> BTW how long would Tanganyikans & brackish fish thrive together?
> Sue
>
>
> a dozen Brichardi (Neolamprologous brichardi), (self-sustaining
> > population), and ten Monos (Monodactylus argenteus). How's that for
an
> > interesting balance?
> >
> > your turn...
> > NetMax
> >
> >
>
>

Empty
January 6th 04, 08:59 AM
"NetMax" > wrote in
:

> your turn...
> NetMax

Low light tank with anubias, vals, crypts, and java fern.

For fish, I would put in reedfish and congo tetras.

Maintenance would be low, and the reeds can't eat sizeable congos.

What kin d of hypothetical music does the station play? That would make a
difference too :)

~Empty

--
'You're not friends. You'll never be friends. You'll be in love till it
kills you both. You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other
till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends. Love isn't brains,
children, it's blood... blood screaming inside you to work its will. I may
be love's bitch, but at least I'm man enough to admit it.'
Spike

RedForeman ©®
January 6th 04, 02:15 PM
as are your comments... do you really think I care about what you, of all
people, have to say about some silly letters??? nope... sure don't...

--

RedForeman ©®


"luminos" > wrote in message
...
> The citation is meaningless.
>

luminos
January 7th 04, 05:40 AM
"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
...
> as are your comments... do you really think I care about what you, of all
> people, have to say about some silly letters??? nope... sure don't...
>
> --
>
> RedForeman ©®
>
>
> "luminos" > wrote in message
> ...
> > The citation is meaningless.
> >
>
>

Do you really think I care about what you, of all people, have tosay???
nope...sure don't.

Phil & Edwina
January 7th 04, 07:16 AM
wow you're accusing red of trying to claim ownership of the name of a
popular television character?
as the TV red would say
"Dumbass!"

Jay
January 7th 04, 03:20 PM
"luminos" > wrote in message
...
> I just have to say this...the copyright and registered icons on your
handle
> are meaningless. It is impossible to claim exclusivity on the net with
> this.

Are those the two type of fish you picked? No? Then post your trolling
somewhere else.

- J

Kay
January 7th 04, 08:24 PM
Phil & Edwina wrote:
> wow you're accusing red of trying to claim ownership of the name of a
> popular television character?
> as the TV red would say
> "Dumbass!"
>
>

LOL! I agree!

Kay

NSP
January 7th 04, 10:50 PM
"NetMax" > wrote in message >...
> Imagine your local radio station runs a contest to pick someone to stock
> their new lobby aquarium, and a chain fish store has agreed to supply the
> fish, gravel & rocks, and as many fish as you want (within reason), but
> only 2 species. Imagine you won. It's a 5' 100g freshwater tank, lit,
> filtered and water parameters as you like. The radio station's
> management prefers that the tank is not too much maintenance (you might
> oblige them ;o).
>
> Pick 2 species which would interact satisfactorily (long term), gravel &
> rock colours.
>
> My pick (to start with something a little unusual ;~) would be:
> Black sand and background, dark brown granite stones filling almost 1/2
> the tank, a dozen Brichardi (Neolamprologous brichardi), (self-sustaining
> population), and ten Monos (Monodactylus argenteus). How's that for an
> interesting balance?
>
> your turn...
> NetMax

You're all SICK - and I'm one of you I'm afraid.

I don't have a submission, but my fiancee made a joke with me that
stuck.

Every week since I got my tank, I've been going to the pet store for
one reason or another.

One of the places I have frequented is a place called "Big Al's
Aquarium". In its parking lot wall are painted giant fish standing on
their tails with big smiles on their face.

Now, my fiancee often joins my on my petshop excursions...often with
less enthusiasm than I.

When she saw the giant fish, she said "Go ahead Neil - put in a
quarter - I know you want to. Fulfill that aquarium fetish of yours!
Lets see those fish dance! Gotta be quick though, or that curtain is
gonna drop!"

We still laugh when we see the smiling fish.

Regards,
Neil

RedForeman ©®
January 8th 04, 06:47 PM
I am so glad someone said it and I didn't have to....

That's exactly where it came from.. it's one of my favorite shows...

Actually, I have an ATV, a Honda, it's a Foreman 450es model, and it's
red... so you could deduce that it's a RedForeman.... so either way.... I
usually get a kick outta UK ppl asking me where it come from...

This group is so cool....

--

RedForeman ©®





"Phil & Edwina" > wrote in message
...
> wow you're accusing red of trying to claim ownership of the name of a
> popular television character?
> as the TV red would say
> "Dumbass!"
>
>

Eric Schreiber
January 8th 04, 09:16 PM
"luminos" > wrote:

>I just have to say this...the copyright and registered icons on your handle
>are meaningless. It is impossible to claim exclusivity on the net with
>this.

Oh for crying out loud. You really are a humorless prat, aren't you?
What makes you think he's intending the symbols as anything more than
a gag? They're just characters making up part of his screen name. Get
over it.

--
www.ericschreiber.com

Adam
January 9th 04, 07:58 AM
> I am so glad someone said it and I didn't have to....
>
> That's exactly where it came from.. it's one of my favorite shows...
>
> Actually, I have an ATV, a Honda, it's a Foreman 450es model, and it's
> red... so you could deduce that it's a RedForeman.... so either way.... I
> usually get a kick outta UK ppl asking me where it come from...
>
> This group is so cool....
>
> --
>
> RedForeman ©®
>
> > wow you're accusing red of trying to claim ownership of the name of a
> > popular television character?
> > as the TV red would say
> > "Dumbass!"
> >

That is by far my favorite show. I was going to ask what the name meant but
on the same day I was going to ask the ignorance broke out. Oh well now I
know.

Ed

NetMax
January 9th 04, 01:33 PM
"Empty" > wrote in message
...
> "NetMax" > wrote in
> :
>
> > your turn...
> > NetMax
>
> Low light tank with anubias, vals, crypts, and java fern.
>
> For fish, I would put in reedfish and congo tetras.
>
> Maintenance would be low, and the reeds can't eat sizeable congos.
>
> What kin d of hypothetical music does the station play? That would make
a
> difference too :)
>
> ~Empty

LOL, that's true. Maybe that's fodder for a new thread (matching music
to fish ;~).

NetMax

Empty
January 18th 04, 04:37 AM
"NetMax" > wrote in
m:

> LOL, that's true. Maybe that's fodder for a new thread (matching music
> to fish ;~).

2 fish for many musical types:

Classical: Angels/discus and bleeding heart tetras

Alternative: Fancy tail guppies (many different colors and tails- about 30
males and 5 or 6 females) and dwarf cories

Metal: Convicts and

Jazz: African cichlids (probably blue and yellow labs)

Rock: Giant Danios and clown loaches

Pop: fancy goldfish, two breeds

NPR: feeder minnows(300) and 1 oscar(you can call him Big Business)


~Empty
--
'You're not friends. You'll never be friends. You'll be in love till it
kills you both. You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other
till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends. Love isn't brains,
children, it's blood... blood screaming inside you to work its will. I may
be love's bitch, but at least I'm man enough to admit it.'
Spike

Richard Reynolds
January 30th 04, 12:02 AM
> Classical:
> Alternative:
> Metal:
> Jazz:
> Rock:
> Pop:
> NPR:

al rite guess ever sence bubba shot the jukebox we arn't alowed to have no aquariums :)

--
Richard Reynolds