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Samuel Warren
February 2nd 04, 12:47 AM
I am new to the hobby. The only thing I have around my area,(Harrisonburg,
VA) is a PETCO and 1 local pet shop. I am interested into looking at some
good websites so that I can expand my horizons, as far as additional items
for sale that can't be found elsewhere. I would love to know some of the
websites that offer advice on the type of fish that I have. Are there any
online clubs or forums rather than just here in the newsgroups. What can
you guys do for a newbie? Has anyone noticed that some fish seem to have
their own distinctive little personalities?

At this point my set-up is:
Aquariums for Dummies Book
1 45gallon "corner-wedged" shaped tank
1 Penguin 170 filter "Wheel-type"
1 20gallon undergravel filter plate >> It was the largest plate they had
that would fit in the odd shaped tank.
1 Penguin Power Head for the filter plate
1 small air pump for the other tube end of the filter plate and
1 4 inch bubble wall stone
1 200 watt heater
1 full-spectrum light (<<I think) and hood, set on a timer
2 rocks with "swim-thru" holes
1 hard wood stump with about 9 broken branches anchored to a flat slate
rock.
1 kit of each to test Nitrate,PH, Ammonia
1 med-size bottle of Stress-Coat
1 med-size bottle of Stress-Zyme
1 small-size bottle of plant fertilizer
1 med-size container of color enriching flake food
1 small-size container of dried blood worms
1 small cartoon of Aquarium salt
40lbs of substrate, and the other assorted items to bring it together.
and I used 1 med-packet of Biro-Spira (<<<not sure of SP) to get the cycle
started.

Lifeforms:
1 Glass Catfish
1 Glass Fish
1 Rainbow Shark
1 Flame Dwarf Gourami
1 Golden Gourami
1 Opaline Gourami
2 Clown Loaches
2 Dalmation Mollies (1 male,1 female)
2 Silver Angelfish
3 Red Velvet Swordtails (1 male, 2 female)
6 Long-finned Zebra Danios
21 TOTAL

3 Unknown plants. (The Petco employee did not know what they were.)

I have gotten these fish over a period of three weeks, after testing water
and such. Everybody gets along fine except for the Golden Gourami, Opaline
Gourami, and the Rainbow Shark. The Opaline and the Rainbow are new this
weekend. The Golden chases the Opaline, away from the top areas of the
tank. Even though the Opaline is slightly larger. So the Opaline likes to
hide behind rocks and plants with the Rainbow in his little established
territory areas. When the Golden wanders to close to the "new" pair the
Rainbow chases him off and returns back to the side of the Opaline. So I am
sort of worrying if the Opaline will get a chance to feed with the Golden
always bugging him. But at least he has a "Big Brother" watching out for
him.

I did boil a small bit of lettuce today and put that in the tank for the
"Gang" as a treat for their "Super-Bowl Sunday Supper" and the Clown Loaches
acted like little pigs. They are blast to watch sometimes, especially when
they are trying to tell me to turn out the light so they can get some rest.

Oh well, enough of my ramblings, what can you guys come up with for me?

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SAM >>

blove
February 2nd 04, 01:17 AM
some great sites are www.petfish.net www.fishgeeks.com www.fishprofiles.com
http://www.allthingsaquatic.com/ http://www.aquariumhobbyist.com/
http://www.myfishtank.net/ http://www.aquariumfish.net/
http://www.fishinthe.net/html/ http://fins.actwin.com/ those are all that i
can remember off the top of my head. one thing tho, the rule for
livebearers such as mollies, swordtails, platys and guppies is to have 3
females to 1 male so the male doesnt constantly hound and stress out the one
female and so they can have a rest from the male. and ya need a nitrite
test kit. and mixing gouramis is kinda hard because they tend to not like
other gouramis. the gold gourami is much more aggressive then opalines and
flames are. if your worrieda bout him not getting his share of food,
establish seperate feeding corners.



"Samuel Warren" > wrote in message
...
> I am new to the hobby. The only thing I have around my
area,(Harrisonburg,
> VA) is a PETCO and 1 local pet shop. I am interested into looking at some
> good websites so that I can expand my horizons, as far as additional items
> for sale that can't be found elsewhere. I would love to know some of the
> websites that offer advice on the type of fish that I have. Are there any
> online clubs or forums rather than just here in the newsgroups. What can
> you guys do for a newbie? Has anyone noticed that some fish seem to have
> their own distinctive little personalities?
>
> At this point my set-up is:
> Aquariums for Dummies Book
> 1 45gallon "corner-wedged" shaped tank
> 1 Penguin 170 filter "Wheel-type"
> 1 20gallon undergravel filter plate >> It was the largest plate they had
> that would fit in the odd shaped tank.
> 1 Penguin Power Head for the filter plate
> 1 small air pump for the other tube end of the filter plate and
> 1 4 inch bubble wall stone
> 1 200 watt heater
> 1 full-spectrum light (<<I think) and hood, set on a timer
> 2 rocks with "swim-thru" holes
> 1 hard wood stump with about 9 broken branches anchored to a flat slate
> rock.
> 1 kit of each to test Nitrate,PH, Ammonia
> 1 med-size bottle of Stress-Coat
> 1 med-size bottle of Stress-Zyme
> 1 small-size bottle of plant fertilizer
> 1 med-size container of color enriching flake food
> 1 small-size container of dried blood worms
> 1 small cartoon of Aquarium salt
> 40lbs of substrate, and the other assorted items to bring it together.
> and I used 1 med-packet of Biro-Spira (<<<not sure of SP) to get the cycle
> started.
>
> Lifeforms:
> 1 Glass Catfish
> 1 Glass Fish
> 1 Rainbow Shark
> 1 Flame Dwarf Gourami
> 1 Golden Gourami
> 1 Opaline Gourami
> 2 Clown Loaches
> 2 Dalmation Mollies (1 male,1 female)
> 2 Silver Angelfish
> 3 Red Velvet Swordtails (1 male, 2 female)
> 6 Long-finned Zebra Danios
> 21 TOTAL
>
> 3 Unknown plants. (The Petco employee did not know what they were.)
>
> I have gotten these fish over a period of three weeks, after testing water
> and such. Everybody gets along fine except for the Golden Gourami,
Opaline
> Gourami, and the Rainbow Shark. The Opaline and the Rainbow are new this
> weekend. The Golden chases the Opaline, away from the top areas of the
> tank. Even though the Opaline is slightly larger. So the Opaline likes
to
> hide behind rocks and plants with the Rainbow in his little established
> territory areas. When the Golden wanders to close to the "new" pair the
> Rainbow chases him off and returns back to the side of the Opaline. So I
am
> sort of worrying if the Opaline will get a chance to feed with the Golden
> always bugging him. But at least he has a "Big Brother" watching out for
> him.
>
> I did boil a small bit of lettuce today and put that in the tank for the
> "Gang" as a treat for their "Super-Bowl Sunday Supper" and the Clown
Loaches
> acted like little pigs. They are blast to watch sometimes, especially
when
> they are trying to tell me to turn out the light so they can get some
rest.
>
> Oh well, enough of my ramblings, what can you guys come up with for me?
>
> --
>
> This message was written on 100% recycled spam.
>
> SAM >>
>
>

Samuel Warren
February 3rd 04, 02:17 AM
Update: The Opaline Gourami died today. I Just got him 2 days ago. I am
going back for a refund (15day policy). I thought that he was acting sort
of wimpy yesterday, perhaps this was why the Rainbow Shark was protecting
him.

I was changing out 6 gallons from my 40 gallon tank. I treated the 6
gallons with Stress-Coat and let it set for about 15 min before I put it in.
I went to supper, When I came back he was drifting in the tank with
occasional spurts of swimming. He then began to roll over and became lodged
along side my drift wood. The Clown Loaches started to "inspect" him, and
he made little attempt to flee them. It was then I rescued him from the
tank into a small tupperware bowl, where he left the world in peace about 15
minutes later. All other fish seem to be their spunky self. I tested the
Ammonia at 0.0 and the Nitrite at 0.5. So after reading my story from
yesterday, maybe my Gold Gourami knew something was wrong with him, or had
terrorized the poor Opaline to death. What do you guys think it was?

--

This message was written on 100% recycled spam.

SAM >>
"blove" > wrote in message
...
> some great sites are www.petfish.net www.fishgeeks.com
www.fishprofiles.com
> http://www.allthingsaquatic.com/ http://www.aquariumhobbyist.com/
> http://www.myfishtank.net/ http://www.aquariumfish.net/
> http://www.fishinthe.net/html/ http://fins.actwin.com/ those are all that
i
> can remember off the top of my head. one thing tho, the rule for
> livebearers such as mollies, swordtails, platys and guppies is to have 3
> females to 1 male so the male doesnt constantly hound and stress out the
one
> female and so they can have a rest from the male. and ya need a nitrite
> test kit. and mixing gouramis is kinda hard because they tend to not like
> other gouramis. the gold gourami is much more aggressive then opalines
and
> flames are. if your worrieda bout him not getting his share of food,
> establish seperate feeding corners.
>
>
>
> "Samuel Warren" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I am new to the hobby. The only thing I have around my
> area,(Harrisonburg,
> > VA) is a PETCO and 1 local pet shop. I am interested into looking at
some
> > good websites so that I can expand my horizons, as far as additional
items
> > for sale that can't be found elsewhere. I would love to know some of
the
> > websites that offer advice on the type of fish that I have. Are there
any
> > online clubs or forums rather than just here in the newsgroups. What
can
> > you guys do for a newbie? Has anyone noticed that some fish seem to
have
> > their own distinctive little personalities?
> >
> > At this point my set-up is:
> > Aquariums for Dummies Book
> > 1 45gallon "corner-wedged" shaped tank
> > 1 Penguin 170 filter "Wheel-type"
> > 1 20gallon undergravel filter plate >> It was the largest plate they had
> > that would fit in the odd shaped tank.
> > 1 Penguin Power Head for the filter plate
> > 1 small air pump for the other tube end of the filter plate and
> > 1 4 inch bubble wall stone
> > 1 200 watt heater
> > 1 full-spectrum light (<<I think) and hood, set on a timer
> > 2 rocks with "swim-thru" holes
> > 1 hard wood stump with about 9 broken branches anchored to a flat slate
> > rock.
> > 1 kit of each to test Nitrate,PH, Ammonia
> > 1 med-size bottle of Stress-Coat
> > 1 med-size bottle of Stress-Zyme
> > 1 small-size bottle of plant fertilizer
> > 1 med-size container of color enriching flake food
> > 1 small-size container of dried blood worms
> > 1 small cartoon of Aquarium salt
> > 40lbs of substrate, and the other assorted items to bring it together.
> > and I used 1 med-packet of Biro-Spira (<<<not sure of SP) to get the
cycle
> > started.
> >
> > Lifeforms:
> > 1 Glass Catfish
> > 1 Glass Fish
> > 1 Rainbow Shark
> > 1 Flame Dwarf Gourami
> > 1 Golden Gourami
> > 1 Opaline Gourami
> > 2 Clown Loaches
> > 2 Dalmation Mollies (1 male,1 female)
> > 2 Silver Angelfish
> > 3 Red Velvet Swordtails (1 male, 2 female)
> > 6 Long-finned Zebra Danios
> > 21 TOTAL
> >
> > 3 Unknown plants. (The Petco employee did not know what they were.)
> >
> > I have gotten these fish over a period of three weeks, after testing
water
> > and such. Everybody gets along fine except for the Golden Gourami,
> Opaline
> > Gourami, and the Rainbow Shark. The Opaline and the Rainbow are new
this
> > weekend. The Golden chases the Opaline, away from the top areas of the
> > tank. Even though the Opaline is slightly larger. So the Opaline likes
> to
> > hide behind rocks and plants with the Rainbow in his little established
> > territory areas. When the Golden wanders to close to the "new" pair the
> > Rainbow chases him off and returns back to the side of the Opaline. So
I
> am
> > sort of worrying if the Opaline will get a chance to feed with the
Golden
> > always bugging him. But at least he has a "Big Brother" watching out
for
> > him.
> >
> > I did boil a small bit of lettuce today and put that in the tank for the
> > "Gang" as a treat for their "Super-Bowl Sunday Supper" and the Clown
> Loaches
> > acted like little pigs. They are blast to watch sometimes, especially
> when
> > they are trying to tell me to turn out the light so they can get some
> rest.
> >
> > Oh well, enough of my ramblings, what can you guys come up with for me?
> >
> > --
> >
> > This message was written on 100% recycled spam.
> >
> > SAM >>
> >
> >
>
>

NetMax
February 3rd 04, 04:47 AM
"Samuel Warren" > wrote in message
...
> Update: The Opaline Gourami died today. I Just got him 2 days ago. I
am
> going back for a refund (15day policy). I thought that he was acting
sort
> of wimpy yesterday, perhaps this was why the Rainbow Shark was
protecting
> him.
>
> I was changing out 6 gallons from my 40 gallon tank. I treated the 6
> gallons with Stress-Coat and let it set for about 15 min before I put
it in.
> I went to supper, When I came back he was drifting in the tank with
> occasional spurts of swimming. He then began to roll over and became
lodged
> along side my drift wood. The Clown Loaches started to "inspect" him,
and
> he made little attempt to flee them. It was then I rescued him from
the
> tank into a small tupperware bowl, where he left the world in peace
about 15
> minutes later. All other fish seem to be their spunky self. I tested
the
> Ammonia at 0.0 and the Nitrite at 0.5. So after reading my story from
> yesterday, maybe my Gold Gourami knew something was wrong with him, or
had
> terrorized the poor Opaline to death. What do you guys think it was?

I think that fish often know before we do, that someone in the tank is
not well, and they might start picking on him, to hasten their free meal.

NetMax

DonkeyQong
February 9th 04, 11:14 PM
Samuel Warren wrote:
> Update: The Opaline Gourami died today. I Just got him 2 days ago. I am
> going back for a refund (15day policy). I thought that he was acting sort
> of wimpy yesterday, perhaps this was why the Rainbow Shark was protecting
> him.
>
> I was changing out 6 gallons from my 40 gallon tank. I treated the 6
> gallons with Stress-Coat and let it set for about 15 min before I put it in.
> I went to supper, When I came back he was drifting in the tank with
> occasional spurts of swimming. He then began to roll over and became lodged
> along side my drift wood. The Clown Loaches started to "inspect" him, and
> he made little attempt to flee them. It was then I rescued him from the
> tank into a small tupperware bowl, where he left the world in peace about 15
> minutes later. All other fish seem to be their spunky self. I tested the
> Ammonia at 0.0 and the Nitrite at 0.5. So after reading my story from
> yesterday, maybe my Gold Gourami knew something was wrong with him, or had
> terrorized the poor Opaline to death. What do you guys think it was?
>
A stress death is sometimes black or dark colored due to heart attack
according to my local fish store.

MartinOsirus
February 9th 04, 11:17 PM
In the first 5 days - stress can subject them to bacterial or viral infections
from weakened immune system. In the next 14 days - mostly bacterial and viral
infections kill them.