black brush algae

[RedForeman ©®]

I've looked for solutions for it, and really haven't found anything...

http://www.floridadriftwood.com/algae_identification.html - seems to be
down, but when it was up, it described with a picture I think, exactly what
I have, but offered no solution to fix it besides the obvious, remove
manually, soak in a 20:1 bleach solution.... Ok, did that, didn't work...
surprised?

next was I went here..
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22brush+algae%22
Found lots of articles that mention lowering pH, and that may help, because
before when the CO2 was attached, it had NO algae at all... so maybe that's
a key....

Then... I read at the krib, where it totally contradicts another above
article...

Anyone care to discuss this some??? I'll be here all week... hahah...

btw, got a redneck joke for you all, I'll post it seperate...

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[NetMax]

"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
...
> I've looked for solutions for it, and really haven't found anything...
>
> http://www.floridadriftwood.com/algae_identification.html - seems to be
> down, but when it was up, it described with a picture I think, exactly
what
> I have, but offered no solution to fix it besides the obvious, remove
> manually, soak in a 20:1 bleach solution.... Ok, did that, didn't
work...
> surprised?
>
> next was I went here..
>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22brush+algae%22
> Found lots of articles that mention lowering pH, and that may help,
because
> before when the CO2 was attached, it had NO algae at all... so maybe
that's
> a key....
>
> Then... I read at the krib, where it totally contradicts another above
> article...
>
> Anyone care to discuss this some??? I'll be here all week... hahah...
>
> btw, got a redneck joke for you all, I'll post it seperate...
>
> --
> RedForeman ©®

If you promise not to post any more redneck or other off-topic jokes,
then I'll tell you of a sure-fire method to get rid of black beard algae,
but you won't like it.

NetMax

[RedForeman ©®]

I'll be a good little redneck and not be OT anymore.... 8-(.... I guess....
*kicking the ground*

someone sends me 5-10 jokes a day... I get lots of redneck jokes, but never
a good fish joke... I've been waiting for one... I know we all need a good
laugh, and I'm just a moron with a keyboard, kinda going hand in hand....

Ok, I'm ready to listen.... :)

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"NetMax" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I've looked for solutions for it, and really haven't found anything...
> >
> > http://www.floridadriftwood.com/algae_identification.html - seems to be
> > down, but when it was up, it described with a picture I think, exactly
> what
> > I have, but offered no solution to fix it besides the obvious, remove
> > manually, soak in a 20:1 bleach solution.... Ok, did that, didn't
> work...
> > surprised?
> >
> > next was I went here..
> >
>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22brush+algae%22
> > Found lots of articles that mention lowering pH, and that may help,
> because
> > before when the CO2 was attached, it had NO algae at all... so maybe
> that's
> > a key....
> >
> > Then... I read at the krib, where it totally contradicts another above
> > article...
> >
> > Anyone care to discuss this some??? I'll be here all week... hahah...
> >
> > btw, got a redneck joke for you all, I'll post it seperate...
> >
> > --
> > RedForeman ©®
>
> If you promise not to post any more redneck or other off-topic jokes,
> then I'll tell you of a sure-fire method to get rid of black beard algae,
> but you won't like it.
>
> NetMax
>
>

[NetMax]

LOL, thanks. If you do get any fish jokes, post them. Otherwise there
are about 20 joke & humour newsgroups to satisfy almost anyone's tickle
bone.

The problem with algae eradication is sometimes identification. Algae
destroyer works on some types, as does copper, SAEs, some shrimps,
Mollies and American flag fish. If you go through these with no luck,
then you still have a few options. One is to do nothing (this has worked
for me, but only once). Another is to alter your nutrient mix (change
foods, more filtration, more water changes, add different plants etc) or
light intensity/duration (burn it), on the principle that every plant has
its operating zone, so nudging the water out of that zone will cause it
to starve. Sometimes it's removing a particular mineral which creates
the growth constraint and die-off. Adding a lot of a mineral (ie: salt)
might kill it (suitable if there are no other plants or fish in there).
The last (which many experienced hobbyists have resorted to), is a tank
tear-down, carefully sterilizing the components (buying new gravel).
This is a PITA, requiring extra tanks and a methodical approach. It is
usually 100% effective (though in some cases, it returns in about 6
months), but when all else fails, there are some algae strains which
demand this level of interaction.

I take a minimalist approach, controlling it mechanically, and tweaking
the parameters patiently. Sometimes I will pull the affected plant for a
bleach dip and scrub. Sometimes I let it go, just to see where it stops,
and they often die back when they have exhausted the mineral/nutrient
driving them. To me, it's part of the aquaria game plan, so I don't
really worry too much (in the words of Alfred E. Neuman... What, me
worry? ;~).

Also google the r.a.f.plants newsgroup postings. They have come up with
some very interesting cures for black brush algae.

NetMax

"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
...
> I'll be a good little redneck and not be OT anymore.... 8-(.... I
guess....
> *kicking the ground*
>
> someone sends me 5-10 jokes a day... I get lots of redneck jokes, but
never
> a good fish joke... I've been waiting for one... I know we all need a
good
> laugh, and I'm just a moron with a keyboard, kinda going hand in
hand....
>
> Ok, I'm ready to listen.... :)
>
> --
> RedForeman ©®
>
>
>
>
> "NetMax" > wrote in message
> . ..
> >
> > "RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I've looked for solutions for it, and really haven't found
anything...
> > >
> > > http://www.floridadriftwood.com/algae_identification.html - seems
to be
> > > down, but when it was up, it described with a picture I think,
exactly
> > what
> > > I have, but offered no solution to fix it besides the obvious,
remove
> > > manually, soak in a 20:1 bleach solution.... Ok, did that, didn't
> > work...
> > > surprised?
> > >
> > > next was I went here..
> > >
> >
>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22brush+algae%22
> > > Found lots of articles that mention lowering pH, and that may help,
> > because
> > > before when the CO2 was attached, it had NO algae at all... so
maybe
> > that's
> > > a key....
> > >
> > > Then... I read at the krib, where it totally contradicts another
above
> > > article...
> > >
> > > Anyone care to discuss this some??? I'll be here all week...
hahah...
> > >
> > > btw, got a redneck joke for you all, I'll post it seperate...
> > >
> > > --
> > > RedForeman ©®
> >
> > If you promise not to post any more redneck or other off-topic jokes,
> > then I'll tell you of a sure-fire method to get rid of black beard
algae,
> > but you won't like it.
> >
> > NetMax
> >
> >
>
>

[RedForeman ©®]

"NetMax" > wrote in message
. ..
> LOL, thanks. If you do get any fish jokes, post them. Otherwise there
> are about 20 joke & humour newsgroups to satisfy almost anyone's tickle
> bone.
>
> The problem with algae eradication is sometimes identification. Algae
> destroyer works on some types, as does copper, SAEs, some shrimps,
> Mollies and American flag fish. If you go through these with no luck,
> then you still have a few options. One is to do nothing (this has worked
> for me, but only once). Another is to alter your nutrient mix (change
> foods, more filtration, more water changes, add different plants etc) or
> light intensity/duration (burn it), on the principle that every plant has
> its operating zone, so nudging the water out of that zone will cause it
> to starve. Sometimes it's removing a particular mineral which creates
> the growth constraint and die-off. Adding a lot of a mineral (ie: salt)
> might kill it (suitable if there are no other plants or fish in there).
> The last (which many experienced hobbyists have resorted to), is a tank
> tear-down, carefully sterilizing the components (buying new gravel).
> This is a PITA, requiring extra tanks and a methodical approach. It is
> usually 100% effective (though in some cases, it returns in about 6
> months), but when all else fails, there are some algae strains which
> demand this level of interaction.
>
> I take a minimalist approach, controlling it mechanically, and tweaking
> the parameters patiently. Sometimes I will pull the affected plant for a
> bleach dip and scrub. Sometimes I let it go, just to see where it stops,
> and they often die back when they have exhausted the mineral/nutrient
> driving them. To me, it's part of the aquaria game plan, so I don't
> really worry too much (in the words of Alfred E. Neuman... What, me
> worry? ;~).
>
> Also google the r.a.f.plants newsgroup postings. They have come up with
> some very interesting cures for black brush algae.
>
> NetMax


Much appreciation for your thoughts... Honestly, it's my own fault... It
started, roughly near the time I installed a new light, and I unhooked the
CO2 to get refilled, then the new tank arrived, I decided to leave it and
wait until the new tank is setup and install it there.. converting the old
tank into a reef tank... but alas, the BBA took off from one little brush,
to a sad sight.... another thing I keep thinking is theres a big peice of
driftwood, and the idea of it leeching something that took 2 years to come
out, because it is virtually covered with it, as are the 2 powerheads and
the intake tube for the HOT filter...

My thoughts for where it came from are these
Lights, I went from 55w 6700, to 65w 6700
HOT Filter - I replaced one filter because it wasn't keeping up and would
clog
Added powerhead for circulation - I was getting green water from poor
filtration
Took out CO2

One of these, or a total combination of them, are at the root of it, but how
do you back up when you're already at the edge of a cliff, facing the wrong
way??

I have thought of erythromycin(sp) or copper as some have said...

ya know.... I read at florida driftwood that there was a link to a bacteria,
a red cyno bacteria that had something to do with BBA, am I going in the
wrong direction there? This is why I was wondering if erythrowhatever it's
called would work... got any ideas there?

Ok, I'll leave you alone for today... jk..... have you heard that one where
the tuna walks into a bar?
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