bio spira

[lonerider]

I recently set up a 10,20 long and a 29 gallon tank. I tried cycle and
special blend. the 10 and 20 took over a month to cycle with still a trace
of nitrite after a the month. The 29 was stuck in the nitrite part of the
cycle with the nitrite off the scale for about 3 weeks, i did 5 gallon water
changes every other day that didn't seem to do much good. I think i put in
too many fish too soon, i was anxious. i lost a few because of being
anxious. I ordered some bio spira through the internet. It came fast wrapped
in a cold pack. The next day after putting it in,under 24 hrs. the nitites
in the 20 gallon were almost gone. The 2nd day,48 hrs. they were totally
gone. The 2 other tanks i put a bit in too and they were cycled the next
day. At least for me this stuff works !! I read reviews and their claims
like the other co.'s but the stuff works. I not selling the stuff or working
for them, just happy my tanks are finally cycled and i wanted to share my
expierence. If your anxious to cycle your tank this stuff worked for me.
Larry

[Eric Schreiber]

"lonerider" > wrote:

>I ordered some bio spira through the internet. It came fast wrapped
>in a cold pack. The next day after putting it in,under 24 hrs. the nitites
>in the 20 gallon were almost gone. The 2nd day,48 hrs. they were totally
>gone. The 2 other tanks i put a bit in too and they were cycled the next
>day. At least for me this stuff works !!

Well, that's one more anecdotal data point. I'd still love to see
side-by-side results by a hobbyist like Donald Kerns tried last year,
but based on various reports I've read (including this one) I'm very
tempted to get a small pack of this stuff for my ten gallon betta
tank. Two of the bettas in it look fine, but the crowntail has
suffered quite a bit of fin loss since he's been put in, and
ammonia/nitrite numbers are consistently above zero.


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www.ericschreiber.com

[MartinOsirus]

>Well, that's one more anecdotal data point

Yes - the stuff works. I cycled 5 tanks with it and it works like a charm each
time. Tnak is cycled in 2 -3 days

[~*~ Vosklady ~*~]

"lonerider" > wrote in message
...
> I recently set up a 10,20 long and a 29 gallon tank. I tried cycle and
> special blend. the 10 and 20 took over a month to cycle with still a
trace
> of nitrite after a the month. The 29 was stuck in the nitrite part of the
> cycle with the nitrite off the scale for about 3 weeks, i did 5 gallon
water
> changes every other day that didn't seem to do much good. I think i put in
> too many fish too soon, i was anxious. i lost a few because of being
> anxious. I ordered some bio spira through the internet. It came fast
wrapped
> in a cold pack. The next day after putting it in,under 24 hrs. the nitites
> in the 20 gallon were almost gone. The 2nd day,48 hrs. they were totally
> gone. The 2 other tanks i put a bit in too and they were cycled the next
> day. At least for me this stuff works !! I read reviews and their claims
> like the other co.'s but the stuff works. I not selling the stuff or
working
> for them, just happy my tanks are finally cycled and i wanted to share my
> expierence. If your anxious to cycle your tank this stuff worked for me.
> Larry
>

Hi Larry . . . :)

I've used Bio-Spira several times with great success each time. I was
wondering, where did you order it from online? I'm going to be setting up
another 55 soon and am in need of some, but don't want to drive an hour to
get it.

Many Thanks in Advance . . .

~*~ Vosklady ~*~

[Eric Schreiber]

Eric Schreiber > wrote:

>I'm very
>tempted to get a small pack of this stuff for my ten gallon betta
>tank. Two of the bettas in it look fine, but the crowntail has
>suffered quite a bit of fin loss since he's been put in, and
>ammonia/nitrite numbers are consistently above zero.

Grrrr.

I went and bought some Bio-Spira yesterday for this problem tank. Last
night I figured I'd test the tank before putting it in, so that I
could get a rough feel for the before and after readings, to see if
Bio-Spira appeared to help.

Wouldn't you know it, the tank has finally cycled. I blew $15 on the
Bio-Spira and now I don't need it. I guess I'll have to convince my
wife to let me start up a new tank or two, so as to not have wasted
the money :)


--
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[MattO]

"~*~ Vosklady ~*~" > wrote in message
...
> "lonerider" > wrote in message
> ...
<snip>
>> I ordered some bio spira through the internet. It came fast wrapped
> > in a cold pack. The next day after putting it in,under 24 hrs. the
nitites
> > in the 20 gallon were almost gone. The 2nd day,48 hrs. they were totally
> > gone.
</snip>
> > Larry
> >
>
> Hi Larry . . . :)
>
> I've used Bio-Spira several times with great success each time. I was
> wondering, where did you order it from online? I'm going to be setting up
> another 55 soon and am in need of some, but don't want to drive an hour to
> get it.
>
> Many Thanks in Advance . . .
>
> ~*~ Vosklady ~*~
>
>
Google for Bio Spira reveals it can be delivered
http://www.fishstoretn.com/
Site says:
"We ship via USPS or FedEx Priority mail with cold packs in order to help
keep bacteria viable... Canadian & other international shipments require
Global/International Priority or Express."
Anyone tried this yet?

[~*~ Vosklady ~*~]

"MattO" > wrote in message
news:kWEWb.157057$U%5.712865@attbi_s03...
>
> "~*~ Vosklady ~*~" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "lonerider" > wrote in message
> > ...
> <snip>
> >> I ordered some bio spira through the internet. It came fast wrapped
> > > in a cold pack. The next day after putting it in,under 24 hrs. the
> nitites
> > > in the 20 gallon were almost gone. The 2nd day,48 hrs. they were
totally
> > > gone.
> </snip>
> > > Larry
> > >
> >
> > Hi Larry . . . :)
> >
> > I've used Bio-Spira several times with great success each time. I was
> > wondering, where did you order it from online? I'm going to be setting
up
> > another 55 soon and am in need of some, but don't want to drive an hour
to
> > get it.
> >
> > Many Thanks in Advance . . .
> >
> > ~*~ Vosklady ~*~
> >
> >
> Google for Bio Spira reveals it can be delivered
> http://www.fishstoretn.com/
> Site says:
> "We ship via USPS or FedEx Priority mail with cold packs in order to help
> keep bacteria viable... Canadian & other international shipments require
> Global/International Priority or Express."
> Anyone tried this yet?
>

Thanks Matt . . . I appreciate it. :)

Regards,

~*~ Vosklady ~*~

[MattO]

"~*~ Vosklady ~*~" > wrote in message
...
> "MattO" > wrote in message
> news:kWEWb.157057$U%5.712865@attbi_s03...
> >
> > "~*~ Vosklady ~*~" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > "lonerider" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > <snip>
> > >> I ordered some bio spira through the internet. It came fast wrapped
> > > > in a cold pack. The next day after putting it in,under 24 hrs. the
> > nitites
> > > > in the 20 gallon were almost gone. The 2nd day,48 hrs. they were
> totally
> > > > gone.
> > </snip>
> > > > Larry
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hi Larry . . . :)
> > >
> > > I've used Bio-Spira several times with great success each time. I was
> > > wondering, where did you order it from online? I'm going to be setting
> up
> > > another 55 soon and am in need of some, but don't want to drive an
hour
> to
> > > get it.
> > >
> > > Many Thanks in Advance . . .
> > >
> > > ~*~ Vosklady ~*~
> > >
> > >
> > Google for Bio Spira reveals it can be delivered
> > http://www.fishstoretn.com/
> > Site says:
> > "We ship via USPS or FedEx Priority mail with cold packs in order to
help
> > keep bacteria viable... Canadian & other international shipments require
> > Global/International Priority or Express."
> > Anyone tried this yet?
> >
>
> Thanks Matt . . . I appreciate it. :)
>
> Regards,
>
> ~*~ Vosklady ~*~
>
>

~*~ Vosklady ~*~
Let us know how turns out!
~ MattO

[lonerider]

Hi,
Yes, the fish store is where my order came from. It was fast and wrapped in
filter media with a cold gel type of pack in the center.
good luck,
Larry


"> > > > wondering, where did you order it from online? I'm going to be
setting
> > up
> > > > another 55 soon and am in need of some, but don't want to drive an
> hour
> > to
> > > > get it.
> > > >
> > > > Many Thanks in Advance . . .
> > > >
> > > > ~*~ Vosklady ~*~
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Google for Bio Spira reveals it can be delivered
> > > http://www.fishstoretn.com/
> > > Site says:
> > > "We ship via USPS or FedEx Priority mail with cold packs in order to
> help
> > > keep bacteria viable... Canadian & other international shipments
require
> > > Global/International Priority or Express."
> > > Anyone tried this yet?
> > >
> >
> > Thanks Matt . . . I appreciate it. :)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > ~*~ Vosklady ~*~
> >
> >
>
> ~*~ Vosklady ~*~
> Let us know how turns out!
> ~ MattO
>
>

[~*~ Vosklady ~*~]

"lonerider" > wrote in message
...
> Hi,
> Yes, the fish store is where my order came from. It was fast and wrapped
in
> filter media with a cold gel type of pack in the center.
> good luck,
> Larry
>
>
> "> > > > wondering, where did you order it from online? I'm going to be
> setting
> > > up
> > > > > another 55 soon and am in need of some, but don't want to drive an
> > hour
> > > to
> > > > > get it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Many Thanks in Advance . . .
> > > > >
> > > > > ~*~ Vosklady ~*~
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Google for Bio Spira reveals it can be delivered
> > > > http://www.fishstoretn.com/
> > > > Site says:
> > > > "We ship via USPS or FedEx Priority mail with cold packs in order to
> > help
> > > > keep bacteria viable... Canadian & other international shipments
> require
> > > > Global/International Priority or Express."
> > > > Anyone tried this yet?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Matt . . . I appreciate it. :)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > ~*~ Vosklady ~*~
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ~*~ Vosklady ~*~
> > Let us know how turns out!
> > ~ MattO
> >

Thanks Larry . . . I'll let you guys know. :)

Regards,

~*~ Vosklady ~*~

[TYNK 7]

>Subject: Re: bio spira
>From: Eric Schreiber
>Date: 2/12/2004 12:02 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Eric Schreiber > wrote:
>
>>I'm very
>>tempted to get a small pack of this stuff for my ten gallon betta
>>tank. Two of the bettas in it look fine, but the crowntail has
>>suffered quite a bit of fin loss since he's been put in, and
>>ammonia/nitrite numbers are consistently above zero.
>
>Grrrr.
>
>I went and bought some Bio-Spira yesterday for this problem tank. Last
>night I figured I'd test the tank before putting it in, so that I
>could get a rough feel for the before and after readings, to see if
>Bio-Spira appeared to help.
>
>Wouldn't you know it, the tank has finally cycled. I blew $15 on the
>Bio-Spira and now I don't need it. I guess I'll have to convince my
>wife to let me start up a new tank or two, so as to not have wasted
>the money :)
>
>
>--

Eric you NUT!
I told ya a little while back the the Joliet PetLand has this stuff for sale at
like $.69 for the 1 oz and $2.49 for the 3 oz!!!!
I've bought several bags of each size to have while I set my 75g and then also
on quarantine tanks, Betta tanks, etc.
I figure if they haven't figured out their mistake on pricing yet...even after
I told them (duh!) that at the Naperville store (same owner) is was about
$15.00 for the 1 oz, and $2?.00 for the 3 oz, then what the heck..buy a few
packs. = )
You should have driven a little farther.
I was just in the Naper store the other day looking for Crowntail Bettas and
they didn't have much to talk about.
I did , however, see some type of Cichlid that was absolutely gorgeous. It was
typical Cichlid body shape, but on the small side. Charcoal black with vibrant
orange fins.
Check them out the next time ya go.
There in the first, free standing wall of tanks on the left. Not the wall of
tanks that has the Bettas on though. = )

[coelacanth]

"TYNK 7" > wrote in message
...
> I told ya a little while back the the Joliet PetLand has this stuff for
sale at
> like $.69 for the 1 oz and $2.49 for the 3 oz!!!!
> I've bought several bags of each size to have while I set my 75g and then
also

You've got Marineland BioSpira for $2.50/3 oz!?!?! Are
you sure? I paid $18 for 1 oz at my LFS several months
ago!

-coelacanth

[Eric Schreiber]

(TYNK 7) wrote:

>Eric you NUT!
>I told ya a little while back the the Joliet PetLand has this stuff
>for sale at like $.69 for the 1 oz and $2.49 for the 3 oz!!!!

Grumble. Short attention span. Can't be helped. Grumble.

>I was just in the Naper store the other day looking for Crowntail Bettas and
>they didn't have much to talk about.

I've tried engaging their Fish Guy in conversation twice now. Either
he's very busy (possible) or just not inclined to talk to weirdos
(likely). He was professional and helpful, just not garrulous. But he
did give me some free Java moss, which was very cool.

>I did , however, see some type of Cichlid that was absolutely gorgeous. It was
>typical Cichlid body shape, but on the small side. Charcoal black with vibrant
>orange fins. Check them out the next time ya go.

Following my last visit there, if I had any room left all (and if my
wife would let me) I'd set up my 30 gallon for some of the gorgeous
cichlids they were carrying.


--
www.ericschreiber.com

[TYNK 7]

>Subject: Re: bio spira
>From: "coelacanth"
>Date: 2/13/2004 2:31 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>
>"TYNK 7" > wrote in message
...
>> I told ya a little while back the the Joliet PetLand has this stuff for
>sale at
>> like $.69 for the 1 oz and $2.49 for the 3 oz!!!!
>> I've bought several bags of each size to have while I set my 75g and then
>also
>
>You've got Marineland BioSpira for $2.50/3 oz!?!?! Are
>you sure? I paid $18 for 1 oz at my LFS several months
>ago!
>

Yes!
Like I said in my other post, they have it priced wrong.
I even brought up their mistake when I was paying for the 3 oz. size (shocked),
I said "Don't you mean $24.00?". She said "Where on earth charged you that much
for it?".
So I bought it, and then went home and called several other stores that carried
it. All had the higher prices, so I must assume the Joliet, IL store has just
underpriced themselves terribly.
They'll figure it out when inventory time comes around and the books aren't
right either. = /

[TYNK 7]

(snipped)

>Subject: Re: bio spira
>From: Eric Schreiber
>Date: 2/13/2004 7:13 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>

>
>I've tried engaging their Fish Guy in conversation twice now. Either
>he's very busy (possible) or just not inclined to talk to weirdos
>(likely). He was professional and helpful, just not garrulous. But he
>did give me some free Java moss, which was very cool.
>

That's cool (Java Moss). I will quickly be over run by it, as I bought a tiny
clump a few months ago to toss into my male Betta tanks. I haqd enough for one
tank at first, and in only that short time, they ALL have it in their tanks. =
)
The main person I talk to at the Naperville store is a guy with really bad
teeth, named Mike.
At first I didn't care for him, as he, as well as most shop employees, believed
all the myths about Bettas (prefer to live in tiny cups and live in tiny mudd
puddles in rice paddies ::rolls eyes::). He also called them "Betas" as still
does. He catches hell from me weekly for it. LOL
He sneaks up behind me and wispers.."Beta Beta Beta!"
He is a bit of stinker. = )

[Eric Schreiber]

(TYNK 7) wrote:

>That's cool (Java Moss). I will quickly be over run by it, as I bought a tiny
>clump a few months ago to toss into my male Betta tanks. I haqd enough for one
>tank at first, and in only that short time, they ALL have it in their tanks.

See, now, I've been looking all over for it, since none of the local
stores seem to carry it (except for this PetLand, which kept it in a
goldfish tank, and why the heck would I be looking in a goldfish
tank?). If I had known you had a bunch, I'd have talked you into
setting me up. Just leave the briefcase by the mail box at the train
station. Come alone - no cops.

>He also called them "Betas" as still does.

I'm trying to break myself of the habit, I confess. As a programmer
(and Windows user, for that matter) the term Beta comes naturally to
me.


--
www.ericschreiber.com

[TYNK 7]

>Subject: Re: bio spira
>From: Eric Schreiber
>Date: 2/14/2004 10:24 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
(TYNK 7) wrote:
>
>>That's cool (Java Moss). I will quickly be over run by it, as I bought a
>tiny
>>clump a few months ago to toss into my male Betta tanks. I haqd enough for
>one
>>tank at first, and in only that short time, they ALL have it in their tanks.
>
>See, now, I've been looking all over for it, since none of the local
>stores seem to carry it (except for this PetLand, which kept it in a
>goldfish tank, and why the heck would I be looking in a goldfish
>tank?). If I had known you had a bunch, I'd have talked you into
>setting me up. Just leave the briefcase by the mail box at the train
>station. Come alone - no cops.
>
>>He also called them "Betas" as still does.
>
>I'm trying to break myself of the habit, I confess. As a programmer
>(and Windows user, for that matter) the term Beta comes naturally to
>me.
>

ROFL!
There's only one other store around that has the Java Moss, and that's
Hobbyland in Joliet.
They don't even have it where you can see it. It's in a tank up near the
ceiling.
Like who's going to know it's up there.
I just finally asked if they ever get it and she said they always have it...a
ton of it.
I then picked my chin up and walked over to the register. = )
I love this stuff for spawning Bettas and it's not commonly found in shops.
It's also a great plant for my 1g..unfiltered male Betta tanks.It's only a pain
in the butt at water change time, as bits of it seem to be always present.
What I don't scoop up with a net settles down quickly and looks like it was
supposed to be there.
For these tanks I took wads of the Moss and formed little balls for each tank.
It quickly branches out, yet stays in place.
Next time ya need some, just drop me an email. (although I may do the same one
day) = )

[Eric Schreiber]

(TYNK 7) wrote:

re: Java moss

>Next time ya need some, just drop me an email. (although I may
>do the same one day)

Thanks, I'll do that. And likewise, let me know if you ever need some
Wisteria, Najas, Broad Leaf Ludwigia, Rotala Indica, Sunset Hygro or
algae. :)



--
www.ericschreiber.com

[~*~ Vosklady ~*~]

Okay, here's what's happened thus far:

I ordered 3 - 1oz packages of Bio-Spira (they were out of the 3oz size)
from:

http://www.fishstoretn.com/bio_spira.html

I paid via PayPal, received a receipt but haven't heard any further on my
order. I'm keeping my fingers crossed here guys . . let's hope I hear word
soon . . . as I'm getting kind of nervous! :) lol

Regards,

~*~ Vosklady ~*~

[lonerider]

I bought my bio-spira twice from them, the 1st time took 3 days after i
placed the order, the 2nd 2 days. They use some sorta gel-type cold pack and
wrap it up in what looks like filter media then put it in a prioriy mail
carboard box. It arrived still really cold both X's. I'm located in MA. so
your shipping time might be different.
Larry
"~*~ Vosklady ~*~" > wrote in message
...
> Okay, here's what's happened thus far:
>
> I ordered 3 - 1oz packages of Bio-Spira (they were out of the 3oz size)
> from:
>
> http://www.fishstoretn.com/bio_spira.html
>
> I paid via PayPal, received a receipt but haven't heard any further on my
> order. I'm keeping my fingers crossed here guys . . let's hope I hear
word
> soon . . . as I'm getting kind of nervous! :) lol
>
> Regards,
>
> ~*~ Vosklady ~*~
>
>

[~*~ Vosklady ~*~]

"lonerider" > wrote in message
...
> I bought my bio-spira twice from them, the 1st time took 3 days after i
> placed the order, the 2nd 2 days. They use some sorta gel-type cold pack
and
> wrap it up in what looks like filter media then put it in a prioriy mail
> carboard box. It arrived still really cold both X's. I'm located in MA. so
> your shipping time might be different.
> Larry
> "~*~ Vosklady ~*~" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Okay, here's what's happened thus far:
> >
> > I ordered 3 - 1oz packages of Bio-Spira (they were out of the 3oz size)
> > from:
> >
> > http://www.fishstoretn.com/bio_spira.html
> >
> > I paid via PayPal, received a receipt but haven't heard any further on
my
> > order. I'm keeping my fingers crossed here guys . . let's hope I hear
> word
> > soon . . . as I'm getting kind of nervous! :) lol
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > ~*~ Vosklady ~*~
> >

Hi Larry . . . :)

Thanks for getting back with me, it's appreciated.

I dropped a line to Bernie and asked him if my order went through alright.
He wrote back and said he received the order and plans to ship in the
morning. He said it would be here in two or three days. :)

Regards,

~*~ Vosklady ~*~

[TYNK 7]

>Subject: Re: bio spira
>From: Eric Schreiber
>Date: 2/14/2004 11:07 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
(TYNK 7) wrote:
>
>re: Java moss
>
>>Next time ya need some, just drop me an email. (although I may
>>do the same one day)
>
>Thanks, I'll do that. And likewise, let me know if you ever need some
>Wisteria, Najas, Broad Leaf Ludwigia, Rotala Indica, Sunset Hygro or
>algae. :)
>

Cool beans, Eric!
Thanks.

[~*~ Vosklady ~*~]

"~*~ Vosklady ~*~" > wrote in message
...
> "lonerider" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I bought my bio-spira twice from them, the 1st time took 3 days after i
> > placed the order, the 2nd 2 days. They use some sorta gel-type cold pack
> and
> > wrap it up in what looks like filter media then put it in a prioriy mail
> > carboard box. It arrived still really cold both X's. I'm located in MA.
so
> > your shipping time might be different.
> > Larry
> > "~*~ Vosklady ~*~" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Okay, here's what's happened thus far:
> > >
> > > I ordered 3 - 1oz packages of Bio-Spira (they were out of the 3oz
size)
> > > from:
> > >
> > > http://www.fishstoretn.com/bio_spira.html
> > >
> > > I paid via PayPal, received a receipt but haven't heard any further on
> my
> > > order. I'm keeping my fingers crossed here guys . . let's hope I
hear
> > word
> > > soon . . . as I'm getting kind of nervous! :) lol
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > ~*~ Vosklady ~*~
> > >
>
> Hi Larry . . . :)
>
> Thanks for getting back with me, it's appreciated.
>
> I dropped a line to Bernie and asked him if my order went through alright.
> He wrote back and said he received the order and plans to ship in the
> morning. He said it would be here in two or three days. :)
>
> Regards,
>
> ~*~ Vosklady ~*~
>

Hi Guys . . .

I received my Bio-Spira today! :)

It was well packed and arrived "right on time" as I got my new tank tonight.
I popped the BS into the fridge and will use sometime this weekend when I
set up the tank.

Thanks to everyone for their input on this one, and for helping me find the
BS. :)

hehe . . . that didn't sound too good, did it? lol

Regards,

~*~ Vosklady ~*~