ghost shrimp

[lonerider]

I have a 10 gal. tank i use for young fry. It contains 1 ghost shrimp,2 cory
cats,1 otto cat,1 pregnant guppy,2 black kuhli loaches and had 6 5/16"
dalmation mollie fry, now 4. The mollies have been in there for about 2
weeks and this morning 2 were gone. The only guy i would suspect would be
the ghost shrimp. Could he grab a small mollie fry at night while it was
resting on the bottom? I have 3 ghost shrimp in my 29 gal. tank but no
losses. I like the ghost shrimp being great scavengers, they get into the
nooks and crannies the cories can't get into. The shrimp is about an inch
long shedding his shell occasionally. These guys eat live stuff??
Thanks,
Larry

[Dinky]

"lonerider" > wrote in message
...
These guys eat live stuff??
> Thanks,
> Larry
>
>

In short, yes. Freshwater shrimp WILL catch and eat any fish small enough,
and dumb enough to get close. I lost 3 white cloud fry that I thought were
big enough to make it in a tank with a couple Amano shrimp.

Silly me.

Sorry for your loss, and that you had to learn the hard way.


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[lonerider]

Hi Dinky,
Thanks for the info. I remember yrs. ago i had a little fresh water crab
that would occasionally grab an adult guppy and have him for a meal. Now i
know why that little shrimp isn't so itttle anymore.
Larry

"Dinky" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> "lonerider" > wrote in message
> ...
> These guys eat live stuff??
> > Thanks,
> > Larry
> >
> >
>
> In short, yes. Freshwater shrimp WILL catch and eat any fish small enough,
> and dumb enough to get close. I lost 3 white cloud fry that I thought were
> big enough to make it in a tank with a couple Amano shrimp.
>
> Silly me.
>
> Sorry for your loss, and that you had to learn the hard way.
>
>
> --
>
> billy
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[lonerider]

TAfter doin a little searching i found a story of ghost shrimp grabing neons
as they passed by for a snack. Found another story of a ghost shrimp
purchase at the L.F.S. that were put in the same bag as the fish. Well, the
fish were eaten by the shrimp on the trip home !! Those cute little ghost
shrimp will munch on anything given the chance.

Larry


>
"> > In short, yes. Freshwater shrimp WILL catch and eat any fish small
enough,
> > and dumb enough to get close. I lost 3 white cloud fry that I thought
were
> > big enough to make it in a tank with a couple Amano shrimp.
> >
> > Silly me.
> >
> > Sorry for your loss, and that you had to learn the hard way.
> >

[Paulo]

THis is new to me, I have 5 ghost shrimps in a community tank with neon and
also guppie frys...my shrimps never ate any...Are we talking about the same
ghost shrimps?

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Paulo
"lonerider" > wrote in message
...
> TAfter doin a little searching i found a story of ghost shrimp grabing
neons
> as they passed by for a snack. Found another story of a ghost shrimp
> purchase at the L.F.S. that were put in the same bag as the fish. Well,
the
> fish were eaten by the shrimp on the trip home !! Those cute little
ghost
> shrimp will munch on anything given the chance.
>
> Larry
>
>
> >
> "> > In short, yes. Freshwater shrimp WILL catch and eat any fish small
> enough,
> > > and dumb enough to get close. I lost 3 white cloud fry that I thought
> were
> > > big enough to make it in a tank with a couple Amano shrimp.
> > >
> > > Silly me.
> > >
> > > Sorry for your loss, and that you had to learn the hard way.
> > >
>
>
>

[Joe Smith]

I have first hand knowledge of the ghost shrimp. Being new to the
wide world of aquariums, when I got to the lfs and seen ghost shrimp
for 35 cents apiece because they where food for something else I had
to have them. Something different what the hell. Well the where in
maybe a 20 gallon tank with neon tetras. So, I call the lady, I think
Darcy over, very cute by the way (thus making me believe everything
that comes out of her mouth), got about 6 shrimp and 6 neons bags them
both together and went to put a little oxygen on top when she notices
that one of the shrimp has a neon in what I would describe as a
sleeper hold. The other lfs told her that they could be in the same
tank just not the same bag, ok I am still going for this. She
seperated them and I went on my way. When I got home I put them in my
95 gallon hex flat back and thought everything was hunky dory. The
next morning when I got home from work, I check out my tank to see how
the cute little shrimp are doing and low and behold one of the bigger
shrimp is walking around with the head of one of my neons. That neon
started out about and inch long the same size if not bigger than the
shrimp.


95 hex flat back
1 white cloud
2 plecos
5 neons -1 from the shrimp
2 harlequin tetras
2 rummy nose tetras
5 albino cory cats
2 platys
about 5 guppies
3 glo-fish
up since Oct 2003





On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 18:14:01 -0500, "lonerider" >
wrote:

>I have a 10 gal. tank i use for young fry. It contains 1 ghost shrimp,2 cory
>cats,1 otto cat,1 pregnant guppy,2 black kuhli loaches and had 6 5/16"
>dalmation mollie fry, now 4. The mollies have been in there for about 2
>weeks and this morning 2 were gone. The only guy i would suspect would be
>the ghost shrimp. Could he grab a small mollie fry at night while it was
>resting on the bottom? I have 3 ghost shrimp in my 29 gal. tank but no
>losses. I like the ghost shrimp being great scavengers, they get into the
>nooks and crannies the cories can't get into. The shrimp is about an inch
>long shedding his shell occasionally. These guys eat live stuff??
>Thanks,
>Larry
>

[lonerider]

Here is another hungry ghost shrimp story....
http://forum.aquariumhobbyist.com/invertebrates/messages/213.html

[Dinky]

"Paulo" > wrote in message
.. .
> THis is new to me, I have 5 ghost shrimps in a community tank with neon
and
> also guppie frys...my shrimps never ate any...Are we talking about the
same
> ghost shrimps?
>


Yep. There is one truth to hold very dear in this hobby/obsession. YMMV.
Your Mileage May Vary. What happens in one tank to one person, may, can,
and/or will turn out totally different for another person.



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[TYNK 7]

>Subject: Re: ghost shrimp
>From: "Paulo"
>Date: 2/15/2004 8:28 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>THis is new to me, I have 5 ghost shrimps in a community tank with neon and
>also guppie frys..

Frys..hehe..would you like a shake with that?
Just kidding with ya. Fry is both plural and singular when it comes to baby
fish. = )

..my shrimps never ate any...Are we talking about the same
>ghost shrimps?

And yes..Ghost Shrimp *can* snatch a healthy, small fish and start munching.
Just because you've not seen it.....don't be foold into a false sense of
security.
A few years ago I had a batch of Betta fry that reached 2 1/2 months and I was
putting the females and "its" (unsexed as of then), and watch a Ghost Shrimp
snatch of my favorite female Betta fry and start eating on her. I was
horrified!
I shoved my arm right down in the 20g and snatched her back!
Well....it let go because it was scared..but needless tosay the Shrimps..all
of them became a lovely afternoon snack for my Angelfish. = )
As for the female Betta fry...she healed up but had permanent scarring from it.
Her horizontal barring (when blanching her vibrant red with purple wash), when
straight ...and then made a southern dip, then back up and along her body. When
she was in full color you could still see the scars.

[Paulo]

Thanks for your correction. English is not my first language

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Paulo
"TYNK 7" > wrote in message
...
> >Subject: Re: ghost shrimp
> >From: "Paulo"
> >Date: 2/15/2004 8:28 PM Central Standard Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >THis is new to me, I have 5 ghost shrimps in a community tank with neon
and
> >also guppie frys..
>
> Frys..hehe..would you like a shake with that?
> Just kidding with ya. Fry is both plural and singular when it comes to
baby
> fish. = )
>
> .my shrimps never ate any...Are we talking about the same
> >ghost shrimps?
>
> And yes..Ghost Shrimp *can* snatch a healthy, small fish and start
munching.
> Just because you've not seen it.....don't be foold into a false sense of
> security.
> A few years ago I had a batch of Betta fry that reached 2 1/2 months and I
was
> putting the females and "its" (unsexed as of then), and watch a Ghost
Shrimp
> snatch of my favorite female Betta fry and start eating on her. I was
> horrified!
> I shoved my arm right down in the 20g and snatched her back!
> Well....it let go because it was scared..but needless tosay the
Shrimps..all
> of them became a lovely afternoon snack for my Angelfish. = )
> As for the female Betta fry...she healed up but had permanent scarring
from it.
> Her horizontal barring (when blanching her vibrant red with purple wash),
when
> straight ...and then made a southern dip, then back up and along her body.
When
> she was in full color you could still see the scars.
>
>

[TYNK 7]

>Subject: Re: ghost shrimp
>From: "Paulo"
>Date: 2/16/2004 10:59 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Thanks for your correction. English is not my first language

It would seem that many folks that have English as their first language have
just as much, or even more trouble with it.
P.S.....Nobody could tell that it was not your first language, so you're doing
GREAT! No worries. = )

[pausto]

lonerider wrote:
>
> I have a 10 gal. tank i use for young fry. It contains 1 ghost shrimp,2 cory
> cats,1 otto cat,1 pregnant guppy,2 black kuhli loaches and had 6 5/16"
> dalmation mollie fry, now 4. The mollies have been in there for about 2
> weeks and this morning 2 were gone. The only guy i would suspect would be
> the ghost shrimp. Could he grab a small mollie fry at night while it was
> resting on the bottom? I have 3 ghost shrimp in my 29 gal. tank but no
> losses. I like the ghost shrimp being great scavengers, they get into the
> nooks and crannies the cories can't get into. The shrimp is about an inch
> long shedding his shell occasionally. These guys eat live stuff??
> Thanks,
> Larry

Just recently I witnessed a ghost shrimp (near 2"), aggressively
hunting what was left of my new Rummy nose tetras (these guys were
less than an inch long). Over a two week period, and before I could
figure out what was going on, this single shrimp had reduced the Rummy
nose numbers from 12 to 4. Then I caught him, seconds after lights on,
stalking and ambushing the poor, still sleeping, fish. I was losing
almost one fish a day, without a trace! I removed the shrimp, and no
more fish disappeared. I still find it hard to believe that 'that
much' fish was being consumed by a single ghost shrimp.
The remaining 4 Rummy noses, and a subsequent 12, have made it
through quarantine, and are schooling happily in their new home (75
gal community tank). There are six, or so, ghost shrimp in the this
tank too. But there is lots of gravel and plants to keep the
mischievous little buggers busy, I hope. I like having the ghost
shrimp in this tank, almost as much as I like the Rummies. I'm keeping
a close eye on things.

Paul

[Paulo]

I am confused about this ghost shrimp. I was searching in the internet and
ghost srimps are not bigger than 1". Amano shrimp can get as big as 2". In
my personal experience, none of my ghost shrimps reach not even 1.5". Life
span of the shrimps is 12 to 18 month.

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Paulo
"pausto" > wrote in message
...
> lonerider wrote:
> >
> > I have a 10 gal. tank i use for young fry. It contains 1 ghost shrimp,2
cory
> > cats,1 otto cat,1 pregnant guppy,2 black kuhli loaches and had 6 5/16"
> > dalmation mollie fry, now 4. The mollies have been in there for about 2
> > weeks and this morning 2 were gone. The only guy i would suspect would
be
> > the ghost shrimp. Could he grab a small mollie fry at night while it was
> > resting on the bottom? I have 3 ghost shrimp in my 29 gal. tank but no
> > losses. I like the ghost shrimp being great scavengers, they get into
the
> > nooks and crannies the cories can't get into. The shrimp is about an
inch
> > long shedding his shell occasionally. These guys eat live stuff??
> > Thanks,
> > Larry
>
> Just recently I witnessed a ghost shrimp (near 2"), aggressively
> hunting what was left of my new Rummy nose tetras (these guys were
> less than an inch long). Over a two week period, and before I could
> figure out what was going on, this single shrimp had reduced the Rummy
> nose numbers from 12 to 4. Then I caught him, seconds after lights on,
> stalking and ambushing the poor, still sleeping, fish. I was losing
> almost one fish a day, without a trace! I removed the shrimp, and no
> more fish disappeared. I still find it hard to believe that 'that
> much' fish was being consumed by a single ghost shrimp.
> The remaining 4 Rummy noses, and a subsequent 12, have made it
> through quarantine, and are schooling happily in their new home (75
> gal community tank). There are six, or so, ghost shrimp in the this
> tank too. But there is lots of gravel and plants to keep the
> mischievous little buggers busy, I hope. I like having the ghost
> shrimp in this tank, almost as much as I like the Rummies. I'm keeping
> a close eye on things.
>
> Paul

[pausto]

Paulo wrote:
>
> I am confused about this ghost shrimp. I was searching in the internet and
> ghost srimps are not bigger than 1". Amano shrimp can get as big as 2". In
> my personal experience, none of my ghost shrimps reach not even 1.5". Life
> span of the shrimps is 12 to 18 month.
>
> --
> Paulo

I have to admit, in my very limited experience with aquaria, I've
never seen ghost shrimp as large as these guys. I buy them at the LFS,
sold as feeders. They are usually much smaller, 3/4" from the tip of
the tail to the tip of the (horn?).
In the last batch I bought (30), there were 10 or so huge specimens.
They don't look any different than the smaller ones. But, like you,
what I have read suggests that they aren't supposed to get that large.
IIRC, I have also read that there are different verities (species?)
that fall under the general terms of Ghost, Grass or Glass Shrimp. So
it sure is possible that what I have is close, but doesn't really
belong to that group (yeah, it's confusing).
On the other hand, I did purchase them labeled as ghost shrimp, So,
the tale shall be amended. "If you buy them from a ghost shrimp tank,
and they are large, Beware. They might be 'Pro Rummynose Tour'
fishermen, disguised in little shrimp outfits" :|

Paul

[Victor Martinez]

Bear in mind that many shrimp species are sold under the generic name
"ghost". That would explain why some are bigger than others.

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[IDzine01]

Hmm: I have to wonder if you have a ghost shrimp at all. Maybe it's
something else. I've had dozens... and dozens of ghost shrimp (if you
look at them funny, they die) They're usually about 3/4" but if you
can get them up to 1" or maybe the occasional 1.5" shrimp. I try to
buy the bigger ones so my bettas won't eat them.

I've had lots of ghost shrimp eaten by other fish, but have never seen
any aggressive behavior by a single ghost shrimp. (Except toward the
algae on my Mystery snail's shell, and even that's pretty infrequent)

[pausto]

IDzine01 wrote:
>
> Hmm: I have to wonder if you have a ghost shrimp at all. Maybe it's
> something else. I've had dozens... and dozens of ghost shrimp (if you
> look at them funny, they die) They're usually about 3/4" but if you
> can get them up to 1" or maybe the occasional 1.5" shrimp. I try to
> buy the bigger ones so my bettas won't eat them.
>
> I've had lots of ghost shrimp eaten by other fish, but have never seen
> any aggressive behavior by a single ghost shrimp. (Except toward the
> algae on my Mystery snail's shell, and even that's pretty infrequent)

I agree. My previous ghost shrimp have been typically 3/4 to 1" in
size. I'm curious enough now, that I'll have to dig in and try to
find out just what it is that I have. They also seem much more active
than any previous smaller shrimp I have had.
What ever they are, they came from a ghost shrimp tank, and they ate
my poor defenseless fish, while they were sleepink <sniff>.

Paul

[IDzine01]

> I'm curious enough now, that I'll have to dig in and try to
> find out just what it is that I have.

Maybe you could post a photo?

[pausto]

IDzine01 wrote:
>
> > I'm curious enough now, that I'll have to dig in and try to
> > find out just what it is that I have.
>
> Maybe you could post a photo?

I wish I had a camera. If I find a pic on the net that looks
representative, I post a pointer to it.

Like Victor had stated, there are multiple species lumped together
under the the name ghost shrimp. I'm wondering where the line could be
drawn as to what might or might not be included. And could there be a
resurgence in numbers of a species that hasn't been seen for a while
(years).
I'm not finding much internet documentation on individual species in
this group of generally non spectacular feeder shrimp.