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RedForeman ©®
February 18th 04, 02:47 PM
Ok, I may have jumped the gun on this, but I put 3 3" bronze/green cory cats
in the 55g the day before yesterday, all by themselves....they came from a
tank that had 4 kribs 1m/3f, 3 kuhli loaches, 3 cories, and a
bristlenose.... 2 of the paired off immediately, and hid under/near a rocky
covered spot...

The next morning, I looked into the 55, and I have eggs scattered onto 3
sides of the glass... white with an obvious spot in the middle....

Could these be cory eggs, or krib eggs that accidently got brought over on
some plant I put in for the cories to have something to cover in....

any ideas what white eggs are? fertilized or non?

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RedForeman ©®
....Red (head hung low) Foreman

Rick
February 18th 04, 03:58 PM
"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
...
> Ok, I may have jumped the gun on this, but I put 3 3" bronze/green cory
cats
> in the 55g the day before yesterday, all by themselves....they came from a
> tank that had 4 kribs 1m/3f, 3 kuhli loaches, 3 cories, and a
> bristlenose.... 2 of the paired off immediately, and hid under/near a
rocky
> covered spot...
>
> The next morning, I looked into the 55, and I have eggs scattered onto 3
> sides of the glass... white with an obvious spot in the middle....
>
> Could these be cory eggs, or krib eggs that accidently got brought over on
> some plant I put in for the cories to have something to cover in....
>
> any ideas what white eggs are? fertilized or non?
>
> --
> RedForeman ©®
> ...Red (head hung low) Foreman
>
>
They will be Cory eggs Red, matter of fact I have 4 little containers full
of assorted Cory eggs all removed from the aquarium glass. Kribs will lay
there eggs inside a flower pot or similar structure out of the way and you
won't see the fry until they are well into the free swimming stage. If you
remove the eggs to a small tupperware type container and add a drop or two
of Meth. Blue to prevent fungus they should hatch within 5 days and 3 days
later you can start feeding them some micro worms or the smallest of freshly
hatched BBS.

Rick

RedForeman ©®
February 18th 04, 05:15 PM
Thank you SO SO Much... we're hoping last night that they would be, cuz that
IS SO COOL!!!!

I love the little puppy dog mentality they have...

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RedForeman ©®
....Red (head hung low) Foreman


"Rick" > wrote in message
...
>
> "RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Ok, I may have jumped the gun on this, but I put 3 3" bronze/green cory
> cats
> > in the 55g the day before yesterday, all by themselves....they came from
a
> > tank that had 4 kribs 1m/3f, 3 kuhli loaches, 3 cories, and a
> > bristlenose.... 2 of the paired off immediately, and hid under/near a
> rocky
> > covered spot...
> >
> > The next morning, I looked into the 55, and I have eggs scattered onto 3
> > sides of the glass... white with an obvious spot in the middle....
> >
> > Could these be cory eggs, or krib eggs that accidently got brought over
on
> > some plant I put in for the cories to have something to cover in....
> >
> > any ideas what white eggs are? fertilized or non?
> >
> > --
> > RedForeman ©®
> > ...Red (head hung low) Foreman
> >
> >
> They will be Cory eggs Red, matter of fact I have 4 little containers full
> of assorted Cory eggs all removed from the aquarium glass. Kribs will lay
> there eggs inside a flower pot or similar structure out of the way and you
> won't see the fry until they are well into the free swimming stage. If you
> remove the eggs to a small tupperware type container and add a drop or two
> of Meth. Blue to prevent fungus they should hatch within 5 days and 3 days
> later you can start feeding them some micro worms or the smallest of
freshly
> hatched BBS.
>
> Rick
>
>

RedForeman ©®
February 18th 04, 07:10 PM
> They will be Cory eggs Red, matter of fact I have 4 little containers
> full of assorted Cory eggs all removed from the aquarium glass. Kribs
> will lay there eggs inside a flower pot or similar structure out of
> the way and you won't see the fry until they are well into the free
> swimming stage. If you remove the eggs to a small tupperware type
> container and add a drop or two of Meth. Blue to prevent fungus they
> should hatch within 5 days and 3 days later you can start feeding
> them some micro worms or the smallest of freshly hatched BBS.
>
> Rick

Rick, another quick question.... or two...

1. how to get them off the glass, siphon, scrape with razor, pluck with
finger?
2. on short notice, can't find micro worms, is there another name for them,
and will liqui-fry work?

Thanks again...
--
RedForeman ©®
....Red (head hung low) Foreman

Gordon
February 18th 04, 09:49 PM
Red,

I've not been so lucky yet with my Cory's, but have done a fair amount of
reading, so will share what I've read.

For question 1, the advise is to scrape with a razor blade. Rick mentioned
adding Meth Blue to the container and this corresponds with what I have
read, although apparently it is also necessary to aerate vigorously. See:
http://mike-edwardes.members.beeb.net/stumped.html
http://www.planetcatfish.com/core/ on the right hand side click the link
"Reproduction" under "Shane's World"
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Breeding+Corydoras&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&meta=

Question 2, I found the following very informative.
http://mike-edwardes.members.beeb.net/food.html

As always YMMV but HTH.

Gordon

"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
...
> > They will be Cory eggs Red, matter of fact I have 4 little containers
> > full of assorted Cory eggs all removed from the aquarium glass. Kribs
> > will lay there eggs inside a flower pot or similar structure out of
> > the way and you won't see the fry until they are well into the free
> > swimming stage. If you remove the eggs to a small tupperware type
> > container and add a drop or two of Meth. Blue to prevent fungus they
> > should hatch within 5 days and 3 days later you can start feeding
> > them some micro worms or the smallest of freshly hatched BBS.
> >
> > Rick
>
> Rick, another quick question.... or two...
>
> 1. how to get them off the glass, siphon, scrape with razor, pluck with
> finger?
> 2. on short notice, can't find micro worms, is there another name for
them,
> and will liqui-fry work?
>
> Thanks again...
> --
> RedForeman ©®
> ...Red (head hung low) Foreman
>
>
>

Rick
February 18th 04, 11:05 PM
"Gordon" <newsin_at_hgp.nildram.co.uk> wrote in message
...
> Red,
>
> I've not been so lucky yet with my Cory's, but have done a fair amount of
> reading, so will share what I've read.
>
> For question 1, the advise is to scrape with a razor blade. Rick mentioned
> adding Meth Blue to the container and this corresponds with what I have
> read, although apparently it is also necessary to aerate vigorously. See:
> http://mike-edwardes.members.beeb.net/stumped.html
> http://www.planetcatfish.com/core/ on the right hand side click the link
> "Reproduction" under "Shane's World"
>
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Breeding+Corydoras&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&meta=
>
> Question 2, I found the following very informative.
> http://mike-edwardes.members.beeb.net/food.html
>
> As always YMMV but HTH.
>
> Gordon
>
> "RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
> ...
> > > They will be Cory eggs Red, matter of fact I have 4 little containers
> > > full of assorted Cory eggs all removed from the aquarium glass. Kribs
> > > will lay there eggs inside a flower pot or similar structure out of
> > > the way and you won't see the fry until they are well into the free
> > > swimming stage. If you remove the eggs to a small tupperware type
> > > container and add a drop or two of Meth. Blue to prevent fungus they
> > > should hatch within 5 days and 3 days later you can start feeding
> > > them some micro worms or the smallest of freshly hatched BBS.
> > >
> > > Rick
> >
> > Rick, another quick question.... or two...
> >
> > 1. how to get them off the glass, siphon, scrape with razor, pluck with
> > finger?
> > 2. on short notice, can't find micro worms, is there another name for
> them,
> > and will liqui-fry work?
> >
> > Thanks again...
> > --
> > RedForeman ©®
> > ...Red (head hung low) Foreman
> >
> >

I have carefully removed them with my fingers however you will likely loose
some this way, at least if your as gentle as I am. Use a razor blade or what
I use is a long piece of blade taken from an Exacto knife to give you a bit
longer edge. Simply scrape upward and the eggs will likely stick to the
blade and can be removed easily in your container. I disagree with the
vigorous airation. I provide no air until about a week after the fry hatch
and then only a very little bit from an air stone. Cory and Aspidora fry and
very sensitive to fungus so it is vitally important to clean out their
container after feeding. In the case of BBS I leave them in for about 30
minutes and then siphon any left overs out. Don't get discouraged if they
don't make it. Wait a week or so and do a cold water change and they will
lay more eggs. I have 15 varieties of Corydoras on the go right now. If you
can't get micro worms then I would opt for live BBS which is the food of
choice for me. Easy to tell who is eating or not as those eating will
quickly develope a nice orange coloured belly. Feed 3 times a day, very
little bits depending on number of fry, clean out the tank afterward and add
water ( I use a 75-25% R/) dechlorinated tap water mix. I believe to survive
the little guys will need live food however you could try liquid fry food.
Don't feed them until the yolk sac is gone, usually 3 days.

Rick

NetMax
February 19th 04, 01:51 AM
"Rick" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Gordon" <newsin_at_hgp.nildram.co.uk> wrote in message
> ...
> > Red,
> >
> > I've not been so lucky yet with my Cory's, but have done a fair
amount of
> > reading, so will share what I've read.
> >
> > For question 1, the advise is to scrape with a razor blade. Rick
mentioned
> > adding Meth Blue to the container and this corresponds with what I
have
> > read, although apparently it is also necessary to aerate vigorously.
See:
> > http://mike-edwardes.members.beeb.net/stumped.html
> > http://www.planetcatfish.com/core/ on the right hand side click the
link
> > "Reproduction" under "Shane's World"
> >
>
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Breeding+Corydoras&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&meta=
> >
> > Question 2, I found the following very informative.
> > http://mike-edwardes.members.beeb.net/food.html
> >
> > As always YMMV but HTH.
> >
> > Gordon
> >
> > "RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > > They will be Cory eggs Red, matter of fact I have 4 little
containers
> > > > full of assorted Cory eggs all removed from the aquarium glass.
Kribs
> > > > will lay there eggs inside a flower pot or similar structure out
of
> > > > the way and you won't see the fry until they are well into the
free
> > > > swimming stage. If you remove the eggs to a small tupperware type
> > > > container and add a drop or two of Meth. Blue to prevent fungus
they
> > > > should hatch within 5 days and 3 days later you can start feeding
> > > > them some micro worms or the smallest of freshly hatched BBS.
> > > >
> > > > Rick
> > >
> > > Rick, another quick question.... or two...
> > >
> > > 1. how to get them off the glass, siphon, scrape with razor, pluck
with
> > > finger?
> > > 2. on short notice, can't find micro worms, is there another name
for
> > them,
> > > and will liqui-fry work?
> > >
> > > Thanks again...
> > > --
> > > RedForeman ©®
> > > ...Red (head hung low) Foreman
> > >
> > >
>
> I have carefully removed them with my fingers however you will likely
loose
> some this way, at least if your as gentle as I am. Use a razor blade or
what
> I use is a long piece of blade taken from an Exacto knife to give you a
bit
> longer edge. Simply scrape upward and the eggs will likely stick to the
> blade and can be removed easily in your container. I disagree with the
> vigorous airation. I provide no air until about a week after the fry
hatch
> and then only a very little bit from an air stone. Cory and Aspidora
fry and
> very sensitive to fungus so it is vitally important to clean out their
> container after feeding. In the case of BBS I leave them in for about
30
> minutes and then siphon any left overs out. Don't get discouraged if
they
> don't make it. Wait a week or so and do a cold water change and they
will
> lay more eggs. I have 15 varieties of Corydoras on the go right now.
If you
> can't get micro worms then I would opt for live BBS which is the food
of
> choice for me. Easy to tell who is eating or not as those eating will
> quickly develope a nice orange coloured belly. Feed 3 times a day, very
> little bits depending on number of fry, clean out the tank afterward
and add
> water ( I use a 75-25% R/) dechlorinated tap water mix. I believe to
survive
> the little guys will need live food however you could try liquid fry
food.
> Don't feed them until the yolk sac is gone, usually 3 days.
>
> Rick

I didn't read the attached articles, but I've lately heard about the
importance of lowering the water level (so the free-swimming fry can gulp
air). My own experience with Corys was one accidental spawning, but
seeing the substrate covered in wigglers like jello shaking to rock music
was quite entertaining.

NetMax

Rick
February 19th 04, 02:45 AM
"NetMax" > wrote in message
.. .
>
> "Rick" > wrote in message
>> I didn't read the attached articles, but I've lately heard about the
> importance of lowering the water level (so the free-swimming fry can gulp
> air). My own experience with Corys was one accidental spawning, but
> seeing the substrate covered in wigglers like jello shaking to rock music
> was quite entertaining.
>
> NetMax
>

yup, if the eggs are removed from the spawning tank and placed in a shallow
container where they hatch out and then you place the fry back into a full
grow out tank, chances are they will all die very quickly. Corydoras swim
bladders can be a problem due to different water pressures. I move my
corydoras into grow out tanks with about 3" of water in the tank and a
heater inside a glass jar full of water. As I do water changes I slowly add
more water than I take out until the tank is full. I once had a dozen or so
Aspidoras goia in a 10 gallon grow out tank that I was slowly raising the
water level in. I did a water change and raised the water level too much too
quickly and all but two were dead the next morning. I have done a lot of
trial and error with these fish. Some species such as C. gossei seem to be
much heartier than others however I try to be very careful with all of them.

Rick

Happy'Cam'per
February 19th 04, 10:00 AM
> 2. on short notice, can't find micro worms, is there another name for
them,
> and will liqui-fry work?

Red, liqui fry would work. To start your own "small foods culture" put a
piece of lettuce into a small bowl of water, place bowl on the windowsil for
a couple of days. The water will turn green, it contains many critters that
the new babies will enjoy. I think this is the same as green water?? HTH
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**So long, and thanks for all the fish!**

RedForeman ©®
February 19th 04, 02:53 PM
Thanks all, but got home last night, and most were gone, or turning brown...
So I'm going to cross the fingers and hope for more, just for kicks and
giggles...

This morning, there were several left, but most were turning....

--
RedForeman ©®
Thank you, for your support...


"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
...
> Ok, I may have jumped the gun on this, but I put 3 3" bronze/green cory
cats
> in the 55g the day before yesterday, all by themselves....they came from a
> tank that had 4 kribs 1m/3f, 3 kuhli loaches, 3 cories, and a
> bristlenose.... 2 of the paired off immediately, and hid under/near a
rocky
> covered spot...
>
> The next morning, I looked into the 55, and I have eggs scattered onto 3
> sides of the glass... white with an obvious spot in the middle....
>
> Could these be cory eggs, or krib eggs that accidently got brought over on
> some plant I put in for the cories to have something to cover in....
>
> any ideas what white eggs are? fertilized or non?
>
> --
> RedForeman ©®
> ...Red (head hung low) Foreman
>
>
>

RedForeman ©®
February 20th 04, 02:21 PM
"Rick" > wrote in message
...
>
> "RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Thanks all, but got home last night, and most were gone, or turning
> brown...
> > So I'm going to cross the fingers and hope for more, just for kicks and
> > giggles...
> >
> > This morning, there were several left, but most were turning....
> >
> > --
> > RedForeman ©®
> > Thank you, for your support...
> >
> >
> Red, I wouldn't throw those eggs out just yet. Take a good look and see
if
> you can see the embryo spine curled around the inside of the shell. If the
> eggs are white and fuzzy then obviously they are fungused. If you add meth
> blue to the container and use as I do a clear food grade type of container
> you can hold it up and shine a flashlight underneath the container. If the
> eggs have absorbed the blue colour then they are no good and should be
> removed but brown might be o.k.
>
> Rick

Really? well.... I'll take that and up it one, after getting home last
night, I looked and found another batch stuck to the last side of glass, and
the uptake tube on the filter... This time, I'll just add methblue to the
little container I've got, and see if I can get all the eggs into the
container... I'm just curious to see what will happen, of course, I don't
have any big aspirations to see if I can 'breed' them, but just to see the
from eggs to hatched(and hopefully grow) will be one of those rewarding
kinda warm fuzzy feelings I think most of us want at some point... Guppies
are TOO easy, next are kribs, and I've got them and they're nearly ready,
but... and.... or.... if.... when..... So many tanks, so little time....
hahaha!!

Thanks again Rick....

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RedForeman ©®
Thank you, for your support...