Zebra Pleco?????

[Craig Williams]

Does NEbody know where I might be able to purchase some Zebra Plecos (L046)
in Canada????

Thanks
Craig

[NetMax]

"Craig Williams" > wrote in message
.. .
> Does NEbody know where I might be able to purchase some Zebra Plecos
(L046)
> in Canada????
>
> Thanks
> Craig

What city are you closest too? I'm ordering from a Columbian supplier in
March, and he claims to have them (and Altums too). Otherwise, they come
up from the Florida farms, infrequently.

NetMax, Ottawa, Ontario

[D&M]

If you're in southern ontario, seen them in Brantford the last couple weeks,
"the tropical fish room". cost a good $$$.
"Craig Williams" > wrote in message
.. .
> Does NEbody know where I might be able to purchase some Zebra Plecos
(L046)
> in Canada????
>
> Thanks
> Craig
>
>

[Craig Williams]

Yeah I live in Burlington, just outside of Hamilton.
"Craig Williams" > wrote in message
.. .
> Does NEbody know where I might be able to purchase some Zebra Plecos
(L046)
> in Canada????
>
> Thanks
> Craig
>
>

[Chris & Jacqui Tondreau]

"Craig Williams" > wrote in message
.. .
> Yeah I live in Burlington, just outside of Hamilton.
> "Craig Williams" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > Does NEbody know where I might be able to purchase some Zebra Plecos
> (L046)
> > in Canada????
> >
> > Thanks
> > Craig

Big Als in east Hamilton usually carries a large variety of Plecos. Not
sure if they have Zebras, but you might want to give them a call.

Jacqui
> >
> >
>
>

[Joachim Laufer]

Hi Craig,
just wanted to know for info, what are the prices
that you pay for L046. The current situation in
germany is, depending on the size you have to
pay 40-120 euro.
Cheers Joachim

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netmax
i am interested i sent contact info
to your hotmail
les

[NetMax]

> wrote in message
om...
> netmax
> i am interested i sent contact info
> to your hotmail
> les

Sorry les, I don't ship fish. I purchase for 1 to 3 stores, using
transhippers, importers, wholesalers and breeders, and then we sell out
of the store tanks at retail.

I'll probably need to buy 50 to 100 Zebra plecos to make it worth my
while, and it's going to be a big piece of my monthly budget. This is
not a business for the faint of heart, or for those seeking to get rich
quick (or even slowly ;~), but as a hobbyist using someone else's money,
I have fun :o).

NetMax

[Craig Williams]

Yeah from what i've been told they are between $90-$120 CDN!

"Joachim Laufer" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Craig,
> just wanted to know for info, what are the prices
> that you pay for L046. The current situation in
> germany is, depending on the size you have to
> pay 40-120 euro.
> Cheers Joachim
>

[Craig Williams]

Yes i've been to that Big Al's numerous times. Unfortunatly they don't have
much selection at that store. The one in Mississauga has much more variety &
a lot more exotic fish. Thanks for the reply though :).

"Chris & Jacqui Tondreau" > wrote in message
.. .
>
> "Craig Williams" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > Yeah I live in Burlington, just outside of Hamilton.
> > "Craig Williams" > wrote in message
> > .. .
> > > Does NEbody know where I might be able to purchase some Zebra Plecos
> > (L046)
> > > in Canada????
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Craig
>
> Big Als in east Hamilton usually carries a large variety of Plecos. Not
> sure if they have Zebras, but you might want to give them a call.
>
> Jacqui
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[bannor]

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:41:52 -0500, "NetMax"
> wrote:

>I'll probably need to buy 50 to 100 Zebra plecos to make it worth my
>while, and it's going to be a big piece of my monthly budget. This is
>not a business for the faint of heart, or for those seeking to get rich
>quick (or even slowly ;~), but as a hobbyist using someone else's money,
>I have fun :o).
>
>NetMax

Geeze.... I am sooo soooo jealous!

[NetMax]

"bannor" <bannor -at- echoes - net - mind the spam block> wrote in
message ...
> On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:41:52 -0500, "NetMax"
> > wrote:
>
> >I'll probably need to buy 50 to 100 Zebra plecos to make it worth my
> >while, and it's going to be a big piece of my monthly budget. This is
> >not a business for the faint of heart, or for those seeking to get
rich
> >quick (or even slowly ;~), but as a hobbyist using someone else's
money,
> >I have fun :o).
> >
> >NetMax
>
> Geeze.... I am sooo soooo jealous!

The kicker is when I go back to a real career job, I'm going to be
thinking, why didn't I get these fish/plants/equipment for a good price
while I was in the pet shop?

My first job in a pet shop (about 1972) was what kick started my hobby.
There isn't too many legal ways for a 13 year old to get enough money to
buy tanks and equipment. Working at a pet shop then, they paid me in
store credits :o)

NetMax

[Joachim Laufer]

Thanks for the info, seems to be the same situation all over.
Did you ever look for L134, is also a very nice pleco and not
that expensive. I keep them(L046 and L134) together in one
tank and waiting that something happens ...
--
Joachim Laufer
Kirchzarten

"Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and then
beat you with experience"

[RedForeman ©®]

> Yeah from what i've been told they are between $90-$120 CDN!
>
> "Joachim Laufer" > wrote in message
>> Hi Craig,
>> just wanted to know for info, what are the prices
>> that you pay for L046. The current situation in
>> germany is, depending on the size you have to
>> pay 40-120 euro.
>> Cheers Joachim

The first and only zebra I saw, I fell inlove with... until I saw the
price.... $79.99, and that was at of all places, PetSmart... So my bet is
that fish probably perished and for nothing... I could have rescued it...
but couldn't afford to...
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[Chris & Jacqui Tondreau]

"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
...
> > Yeah from what i've been told they are between $90-$120 CDN!
> >
> > "Joachim Laufer" > wrote in message
> >> Hi Craig,
> >> just wanted to know for info, what are the prices
> >> that you pay for L046. The current situation in
> >> germany is, depending on the size you have to
> >> pay 40-120 euro.
> >> Cheers Joachim
>
> The first and only zebra I saw, I fell inlove with... until I saw the
> price.... $79.99, and that was at of all places, PetSmart... So my bet is
> that fish probably perished and for nothing... I could have rescued it...
> but couldn't afford to...
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> RedForeman ©®
> Sorry about the troll, the ball is rolling there....
> Thank you for your cooperation!
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I'm sometimes tempted to ask the Petsmart to give me their sick fish. If I
treat it & it lives I win. Otherwise, they just have a dead fish & no
profit off any meds I might buy. I feel so sorry for the $40 goldfish that
always seem to be going belly up. I wonder if they get a credit on
dead/diseased stock from their suppliers.

Jacqui

>
>

[RedForeman ©®]

> "RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
>>> Yeah from what i've been told they are between $90-$120 CDN!

>>> "Joachim Laufer" > wrote in message
>>>> Hi Craig,
>>>> just wanted to know for info, what are the prices
>>>> that you pay for L046. The current situation in
>>>> germany is, depending on the size you have to
>>>> pay 40-120 euro.
>>>> Cheers Joachim
>>
>> The first and only zebra I saw, I fell inlove with... until I saw the
>> price.... $79.99, and that was at of all places, PetSmart... So my
>> bet is that fish probably perished and for nothing... I could have
>> rescued it... but couldn't afford to...
>> --
>> ---
>> RedForeman ©®
>> Sorry about the troll, the ball is rolling there....
>> Thank you for your cooperation!
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>
> I'm sometimes tempted to ask the Petsmart to give me their sick fish.
> If I treat it & it lives I win. Otherwise, they just have a dead
> fish & no profit off any meds I might buy. I feel so sorry for the
> $40 goldfish that always seem to be going belly up. I wonder if they
> get a credit on dead/diseased stock from their suppliers.
>
> Jacqui

From what I've seen some do, some don't... realize they only pay $.10 to
every dollar you spend on fish, or something like that, so losing some is
factored in already at such a cheap cost to them, OR... they'll have a
shringage clause that allows for deaths in transit, etc....

Either way, they're usually covered...

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[NetMax]

"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
...
> > "RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
> >>> Yeah from what i've been told they are between $90-$120 CDN!
>
> >>> "Joachim Laufer" > wrote in message
> >>>> Hi Craig,
> >>>> just wanted to know for info, what are the prices
> >>>> that you pay for L046. The current situation in
> >>>> germany is, depending on the size you have to
> >>>> pay 40-120 euro.
> >>>> Cheers Joachim
> >>
> >> The first and only zebra I saw, I fell inlove with... until I saw
the
> >> price.... $79.99, and that was at of all places, PetSmart... So my
> >> bet is that fish probably perished and for nothing... I could have
> >> rescued it... but couldn't afford to...
> >> --
> >> ---
> >> RedForeman ©®

> > I'm sometimes tempted to ask the Petsmart to give me their sick fish.
> > If I treat it & it lives I win. Otherwise, they just have a dead
> > fish & no profit off any meds I might buy. I feel so sorry for the
> > $40 goldfish that always seem to be going belly up. I wonder if they
> > get a credit on dead/diseased stock from their suppliers.
> >
> > Jacqui
>
> From what I've seen some do, some don't... realize they only pay $.10
to
> every dollar you spend on fish, or something like that, so losing some
is
> factored in already at such a cheap cost to them, OR... they'll have a
> shringage clause that allows for deaths in transit, etc....
>
> Either way, they're usually covered...
>
> -----
> RedForeman ©®

You're guessing Red.

My guess is that 1) the mark-ups are not anywhere near that high, 2)
losses in transit are credited or replaced, usually up to 24 hours after
delivery, 3) after the 1st day, the mark-up is what helps offset their
shrinkage, and most importantly 4), they don't make any money on fish.
It's basically a lost-leader to generate sales on merchandise and
aquariums.

Now, is there anyone lurking who actually works or worked for Petsmart?

NetMax

[RedForeman ©®]

> You're guessing Red.
>
> My guess is that 1) the mark-ups are not anywhere near that high, 2)
> losses in transit are credited or replaced, usually up to 24 hours
> after delivery, 3) after the 1st day, the mark-up is what helps
> offset their shrinkage, and most importantly 4), they don't make any
> money on fish. It's basically a lost-leader to generate sales on
> merchandise and aquariums.
>
> Now, is there anyone lurking who actually works or worked for
> Petsmart?
>
> NetMax

Good to know, but I would have thought SOME money could be made... I
guess*there I go again* that the supplies are what they are driven on...

--
RedForeman ©®
Red... the learning something new everyday... Foreman

[bannor]

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 00:05:05 -0500, "NetMax"
<snip>
>> >quick (or even slowly ;~), but as a hobbyist using someone else's
>money,
>> >I have fun :o).
>> >
>> >NetMax
>>
>> Geeze.... I am sooo soooo jealous!
>
>The kicker is when I go back to a real career job, I'm going to be
>thinking, why didn't I get these fish/plants/equipment for a good price
>while I was in the pet shop?

Makes me want to go apply for a part time position at the local
Petsmart or Petco... probably Petsmart... don't like the prices at
Petco.

[NetMax]

"bannor" <bannor -at- echoes - net - mind the spam block> wrote in
message ...
> On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 00:05:05 -0500, "NetMax"
> <snip>
> >> >quick (or even slowly ;~), but as a hobbyist using someone else's
> >money,
> >> >I have fun :o).
> >> >
> >> >NetMax
> >>
> >> Geeze.... I am sooo soooo jealous!
> >
> >The kicker is when I go back to a real career job, I'm going to be
> >thinking, why didn't I get these fish/plants/equipment for a good
price
> >while I was in the pet shop?
>
> Makes me want to go apply for a part time position at the local
> Petsmart or Petco... probably Petsmart... don't like the prices at
> Petco.

IMHO, if you're a regular lurker/poster here, then you're overqualified
for the job (compared to the rest of your average retail staff ;~). Go
for the fun, the social aspect of rubbing elbows with other hobbyists,
and any discounts on merchandise, but don't go for the salary, and you
might not like what you see in regards to illnesses, mortality and
dealing with customer's horror stories, ymmv.

NetMax

[bannor]

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 23:08:02 -0500, "NetMax"
> wrote:
>IMHO, if you're a regular lurker/poster here, then you're overqualified
>for the job (compared to the rest of your average retail staff ;~). Go
>for the fun, the social aspect of rubbing elbows with other hobbyists,
>and any discounts on merchandise, but don't go for the salary, and you
>might not like what you see in regards to illnesses, mortality and
>dealing with customer's horror stories, ymmv.
>NetMax


That would have been the only reasons to take that sort of job... but
the discounts probably don't match the 'discount' I can get online
anyway... I was just in the local Petsmart and they are selling the
Fluval 404 for $198.00, that is double what you can find it for
online. Even with a charitable 20% discount which I doubt that I
would get that large a discount... well, the math just doesn't add up.
The only real savings might be on purchasing fish... getting them when
they first arrive etc... the same with plants... otherwise, I can
purchase everything cheaper online even by adding shipping to whatever
I pay out.

However, there are two, family owned, LFS that I frequent, at least
once per month, but usually more often... these are the people that I
buy products from. I might pay more than I would at Petsmart for fish
food, but I know it is FRESH and their fish are always healthy. They
also offer better deals on tanks and stands...I've got my eye on a 130
gal tank and stand combo for $350 that is complete with wooden
canopy... it is a 'special' but this one store seems to have at least
one of these 'specials' on sale all the time. I do everything I can
to keep them in business by sending anyone I find at the bigger stores
to the smaller guys...

I was one of the first customers for the owner of "The Aquarium
Center" down in Baltimore... back when he started in his mothers home
with just one room with about 20 10 gallon tanks... Kept going back as
his business grew. But eventually moved to far away to keep shopping
there...