biospira question

[Chris Palma]

Hi.

I just today got my biospira, and I was a bit surprised about the brief
directions. It basically just says add to water, then add fish the next
day. I added 2 oz. to my tank tonight at ~8pm.

So... the questions that I still have are:

1) Should I do a big / small / no water change before adding the fish?
I haven't done any water change since I set the tank up from scratch
(about 6-8 weeks ago), although I have topped it off with about 2 gallons
of water. I haven't tested the nitrate level, but I assume it must be
higher than the preferred level.

2) Assuming I should do a big water change, how long should I wait after
the change before adding the fish?

3) Now that I'm *finally* going to be able to add fish, any other last
minute tips?

Thanks in advance...

--chris


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Christopher Palma Penn State University
ph: (814) 863-0733 Dept. of Astronomy & Astrophysics
FAX: (814) 863-3399 525 Davey Lab, University Park, PA 16802

[TYNK 7]

>Subject: biospira question
>From: Chris Palma
>Date: 2/25/2004 10:12 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Hi.
>
>I just today got my biospira, and I was a bit surprised about the brief
>directions. It basically just says add to water, then add fish the next
>day. I added 2 oz. to my tank tonight at ~8pm.
>
>So... the questions that I still have are:
>
>1) Should I do a big / small / no water change before adding the fish?
>I haven't done any water change since I set the tank up from scratch
>(about 6-8 weeks ago), although I have topped it off with about 2 gallons
>of water. I haven't tested the nitrate level, but I assume it must be
>higher than the preferred level.
>
>2) Assuming I should do a big water change, how long should I wait after
>the change before adding the fish?
>
>3) Now that I'm *finally* going to be able to add fish, any other last
>minute tips?
>
>Thanks in advance...
>

Why was your tank running for 6-8 weeks without any fish in it?
Here's the Marnineland link to Bio Spira
They even have an toll free number to
call.http://www.marineland.com/science/nspira.html

[NetMax]

Hi Chris, I've never used Biospira, but I might be able to give you some
rudimentary advice, midposted...

"Chris Palma" > wrote in message
...
> Hi.
>
> I just today got my biospira, and I was a bit surprised about the brief
> directions. It basically just says add to water, then add fish the
next
> day. I added 2 oz. to my tank tonight at ~8pm.
>
> So... the questions that I still have are:
>
> 1) Should I do a big / small / no water change before adding the fish?
> I haven't done any water change since I set the tank up from scratch
> (about 6-8 weeks ago), although I have topped it off with about 2
gallons
> of water. I haven't tested the nitrate level, but I assume it must be
> higher than the preferred level.

Since the fish are your main ammonia source, there wouldn't be anything
toxic in the water before you added the fish, so no reason to do a water
change. The biospira is just bacteria. They will spend the day
attaching themselves to various surfaces.

If you had added ammonia previously, then, yes. I would not add the fish
the next day, but I'd wait until the levels stabilized, and then do a
large w/c to bring the NO3 levels down.

> 2) Assuming I should do a big water change, how long should I wait
after
> the change before adding the fish?

Assuming you needed to do the change, assuming you got your NO3 levels
down enough, assuming your ammonia & nitrites were already zero, assuming
you are not on well-water and need to air the water for 24 hours, then
*whew*, you can add the fish anytime after the de-chlor has finished
working (10 minutes) and the temperature is right (let it run a few
hours).

> 3) Now that I'm *finally* going to be able to add fish, any other last
> minute tips?

Float the opened bag, putting in a cup of your tank water every 10
minutes or so, until the bag is almost overflowing, then release them.
Typical stocking order is to start with the smallest and end with the
largest/aggressive/territorial (if doing this over a few days). If doing
it all at once, with a mix of fish, turn off the tank lights (let them
settle in with just the room lights). Have fun!

NetMax

> Thanks in advance...
>
> --chris
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
----
> Christopher Palma Penn State University
> ph: (814) 863-0733 Dept. of Astronomy & Astrophysics
> FAX: (814) 863-3399 525 Davey Lab, University Park, PA 16802
>
>

[Chris Palma]

I started a fishless cycle using the instructions available all over the
web. I added ammonia until I got a reading of 5ppm, then seeded my tank
by taking gravel from a friend with an established tank and adding two
live plants from the LFS. Even with the seeding, it took weeks for the
ammonia level to come down, and it has been two more weeks and the
nitrites are still high. My impatience got the best of me and I bought
bio-spira to speed up the cycle.

That's my story so far. If the Bio-spira brings the nitrites down, I'm
declaring victory and *finally* going to start stocking my tank.

On 26 Feb 2004, TYNK 7 wrote:

> >Subject: biospira question
> >From: Chris Palma
> >Date: 2/25/2004 10:12 PM Central Standard Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >Hi.
> >
> >I just today got my biospira, and I was a bit surprised about the brief
> >directions. It basically just says add to water, then add fish the next
> >day. I added 2 oz. to my tank tonight at ~8pm.
> >
> >So... the questions that I still have are:
> >
> >1) Should I do a big / small / no water change before adding the fish?
> >I haven't done any water change since I set the tank up from scratch
> >(about 6-8 weeks ago), although I have topped it off with about 2 gallons
> >of water. I haven't tested the nitrate level, but I assume it must be
> >higher than the preferred level.
> >
> >2) Assuming I should do a big water change, how long should I wait after
> >the change before adding the fish?
> >
> >3) Now that I'm *finally* going to be able to add fish, any other last
> >minute tips?
> >
> >Thanks in advance...
> >
>
> Why was your tank running for 6-8 weeks without any fish in it?
> Here's the Marnineland link to Bio Spira
> They even have an toll free number to
> call.http://www.marineland.com/science/nspira.html
>

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Christopher Palma Penn State University
ph: (814) 863-0733 Dept. of Astronomy & Astrophysics
FAX: (814) 863-3399 525 Davey Lab, University Park, PA 16802

[~*~ Vosklady ~*~]

"Chris Palma" > wrote in message
...
: Hi.
:
: I just today got my biospira, and I was a bit surprised about the brief
: directions. It basically just says add to water, then add fish the next
: day. I added 2 oz. to my tank tonight at ~8pm.
:
: So... the questions that I still have are:
:
: 1) Should I do a big / small / no water change before adding the fish?
: I haven't done any water change since I set the tank up from scratch
: (about 6-8 weeks ago), although I have topped it off with about 2 gallons
: of water. I haven't tested the nitrate level, but I assume it must be
: higher than the preferred level.
:
: 2) Assuming I should do a big water change, how long should I wait after
: the change before adding the fish?
:
: 3) Now that I'm *finally* going to be able to add fish, any other last
: minute tips?
:
: Thanks in advance...
:
: --chris

Hi Chris . . . :)

The way I've always used Bio-Spira with a new setup is as follows:

1) Setup the tank - placement of tank and all equipment

2) Fill tank with water, plug in equipment

3) Add Bio-Safe according to instructions (also from Marineland)

4) Let the tank filter for a few hours or a day

5) Buy fish

6) Add Bio-Spira (for a 55 I use 3 oz - the dosage for a 90 gallon tank)

7) Add Fish

8) Add Bio-Coat (also from Marineland . . . and the only dechlorinatior I
use after water changes)

Since Bio-Spira came on the market that (the above) is how I've setup my
tanks and have had great success.

If I was you, I'd empty out all the water and start over doing the above. It
will be much easier on you in the long run (based on my own experiences).

Recently I setup a new 55 and here's how it has been going so far:

20 February - Setup tank without Bio-Spira

21 February - Bio-Spira added (3oz) - 3 small (un-dyed) jellybean cichlids
added

24 February - Added 6 Cory Cats (Corydoras paleatus)

25 February - Tested Water:

(test results)

PH: 7.6
Ammonia: .5 ppm
Nitrites: 0 ppm
Nitrates: 10 ppm

26 February (today) - Tested Water - 20% Water Change

(test results)

PH: 7.6
Ammonia: 0 ppm
Nitrites: 0 ppm
Nitrates: 0 ppm

Hope This Helps . . . Keep us posted! :)

Regards,

~*~ Vosklady ~*~

[~*~ Vosklady ~*~]

"Chris Palma" > wrote in message
...
: Hi.
:
: I just today got my biospira, and I was a bit surprised about the brief
: directions. It basically just says add to water, then add fish the next
: day. I added 2 oz. to my tank tonight at ~8pm.
:
: So... the questions that I still have are:
:
: 1) Should I do a big / small / no water change before adding the fish?
: I haven't done any water change since I set the tank up from scratch
: (about 6-8 weeks ago), although I have topped it off with about 2 gallons
: of water. I haven't tested the nitrate level, but I assume it must be
: higher than the preferred level.
:
: 2) Assuming I should do a big water change, how long should I wait after
: the change before adding the fish?
:
: 3) Now that I'm *finally* going to be able to add fish, any other last
: minute tips?
:
: Thanks in advance...
:
: --chris
:

Hi Chris . . . :)

The way I've always used Bio-Spira with a new setup is as follows:

1) Setup the tank - placement of tank and all equipment

2) Fill tank with water, plug in equipment

3) Add Bio-Safe according to instructions (also from Marineland)

4) Let the tank filter for a few hours or a day

5) Buy fish

6) Add Bio-Spira (for a 55 I use 3 oz - the dosage for a 90 gallon tank)

7) Add Fish

8) Add Bio-Coat (also from Marineland . . . and the only dechlorinatior I
use after water changes)

Since Bio-Spira came on the market that (the above) is how I've setup my
tanks and have had great success.

If I was you, I'd empty out all the water and start over doing the above. It
will be much easier on you in the long run (based on my own experiences).

Recently I setup a new 55 and here's how it has been going so far:

20 February - Setup tank without Bio-Spira

21 February - Bio-Spira added (3oz) - 3 small (un-dyed) jellybean cichlids
added

24 February - Added 6 Cory Cats (Corydoras paleatus)

25 February - Tested Water:

(test results)

PH: 7.6
Ammonia: .5 ppm
Nitrites: 0 ppm
Nitrates: 10 ppm

26 February (today) - Tested Water - 20% Water Change

(test results)

PH: 7.6
Ammonia: 0 ppm
Nitrites: 0 ppm
Nitrates: 0 ppm

Hope This Helps . . . Keep us posted! :)

Regards,

~*~ Vosklady ~*~

(apologies if this double posts - my newserver is burping again)

[Reg]

Just curious. I would never have considered putting any cichlid with
corys. Have you had good luck with this combination?

Reg


~*~ Vosklady ~*~ wrote:
> :
<snip>
<>
> 21 February - Bio-Spira added (3oz) - 3 small (un-dyed) jellybean cichlids
> added
>
> 24 February - Added 6 Cory Cats (Corydoras paleatus)
>
> ~*~ Vosklady ~*~
>
> (apologies if this double posts - my newserver is burping again)
>
>

[Polarhound]

~*~ Vosklady ~*~ wrote:

> 26 February (today) - Tested Water - 20% Water Change
>
> (test results)
>
> PH: 7.6
> Ammonia: 0 ppm
> Nitrites: 0 ppm
> Nitrates: 0 ppm

And just how did you end up with zero Nitrates?

The only way to keep all 3 at zero is to have an empty tank.

[Andy Hill]

Polarhound > wrote:
>~*~ Vosklady ~*~ wrote:
>
>> 26 February (today) - Tested Water - 20% Water Change
>>
>> (test results)
>>
>> PH: 7.6
>> Ammonia: 0 ppm
>> Nitrites: 0 ppm
>> Nitrates: 0 ppm
>
>And just how did you end up with zero Nitrates?
>
>The only way to keep all 3 at zero is to have an empty tank.
>
While technically correct, if you do enough water changes (or have a seriously
planted tank), your nitrates will never get high enough to give a reading on
many nitrate test kits. Neither of my kits really give much of a reading below
10ppm, which means I usually get a "zero" reading.

[~*~ Vosklady ~*~]

"Reg" > wrote in message news:Exz%b.626182$ts4.497322@pd7tw3no...
: Just curious. I would never have considered putting any cichlid with
: corys. Have you had good luck with this combination?
:
: Reg
:

Hi Reg . . . :)

Things seem to be working well with this combination. The corys I put in are
of the Corydoras Paleatus variety. From what I understand, this particular
type get a bit bigger than most cory cats. I read somewhere they can get up
to 4" (someone, please correct me if I'm wrong or what I've read is
incorrect). The ones I've got are around 2" or so.

From what I've seen, the cichlids really don't seem to mind the cats . . .
they do sometimes chase after one of the cats if the cat moves into their
"territory" but the cats seem to be much quicker than the cichlids and can
easily outswim them. However, this really doesn't happen often (that I've
seen so far). Let's hope things remain "peaceful" in the tank . . . :)

I initially thought to move my panda cory cats over from my other tank to
this new one, but was concerned due to their small size and this is why I
opted to get a larger variety. My cichlids are still rather young (about the
size of a half-dollar or so). I wanted to get other fish in there so they'd
be used to them by the time they were larger themselves.

Regards,

~*~ Vosklady ~*~

[~*~ Vosklady ~*~]

"Polarhound" > wrote in message
...
: ~*~ Vosklady ~*~ wrote:
:
: > 26 February (today) - Tested Water - 20% Water Change
: >
: > (test results)
: >
: > PH: 7.6
: > Ammonia: 0 ppm
: > Nitrites: 0 ppm
: > Nitrates: 0 ppm
:
: And just how did you end up with zero Nitrates?
:
: The only way to keep all 3 at zero is to have an empty tank.

Hi Polarhound . . . :)

I honestly don't know! lol

Really though, I do "do" frequent water changes (at least once a week) and
moved some plants over from my other tank to this new setup. I've read quite
a bit regarding plants and new tanks and how they help greatly during the
cycling period and this was one of my main reasons for moving some plants
over to this new setup. :)

Regards,

~*~ Vosklady ~*~

*forgive is double posted . . . newserver burping again . . . grrrr)

[~*~ Vosklady ~*~]

"Polarhound" > wrote in message
...
: ~*~ Vosklady ~*~ wrote:
:
: > 26 February (today) - Tested Water - 20% Water Change
: >
: > (test results)
: >
: > PH: 7.6
: > Ammonia: 0 ppm
: > Nitrites: 0 ppm
: > Nitrates: 0 ppm
:
: And just how did you end up with zero Nitrates?
:
: The only way to keep all 3 at zero is to have an empty tank.

I honestly don't know! lol

Really though, I do "do" frequent water changes (at least once a week) and
moved some plants over from my other tank to this new setup. I've read quite
a bit regarding plants and new tanks and how they help greatly during the
cycling period and this was one of my main reasons for moving some plants
over to this new setup. :)

Regards,

~*~ Vosklady ~*~

[NetMax]

"~*~ Vosklady ~*~" > wrote in message
...
> "Polarhound" > wrote in message
> ...
> : ~*~ Vosklady ~*~ wrote:
<snip>
> Regards,
>
> ~*~ Vosklady ~*~
>
> *forgive is double posted . . . newserver burping again . . . grrrr)

Hi Vosklady,
I don't think you are double posting as I only see 2 posts and the text
is different (one has your apology and the other doesn't). Is it
possible that a problem in your configuration is making you see 2 posts,
when there is really only one being sent out?

NetMax

[Rick]

"~*~ Vosklady ~*~" > wrote in message
...
> "Reg" > wrote in message
news:Exz%b.626182$ts4.497322@pd7tw3no...
> : Just curious. I would never have considered putting any cichlid with
> : corys. Have you had good luck with this combination?
> :
> : Reg
> :
>
> Hi Reg . . . :)
>
> Things seem to be working well with this combination. The corys I put in
are
> of the Corydoras Paleatus variety. From what I understand, this particular
> type get a bit bigger than most cory cats. I read somewhere they can get
up
> to 4" (someone, please correct me if I'm wrong or what I've read is
> incorrect). The ones I've got are around 2" or so.
>
> From what I've seen, the cichlids really don't seem to mind the cats . . .
> they do sometimes chase after one of the cats if the cat moves into their
> "territory" but the cats seem to be much quicker than the cichlids and can
> easily outswim them. However, this really doesn't happen often (that I've
> seen so far). Let's hope things remain "peaceful" in the tank . . . :)
>
> I initially thought to move my panda cory cats over from my other tank to
> this new one, but was concerned due to their small size and this is why I
> opted to get a larger variety. My cichlids are still rather young (about
the
> size of a half-dollar or so). I wanted to get other fish in there so
they'd
> be used to them by the time they were larger themselves.
>
> Regards,
>
> ~*~ Vosklady ~*~
>
> 6-7 cm which is 2 1/2 to 3" for C. paleatus.

Rick

[Rick]

"Polarhound" > wrote in message
...
> ~*~ Vosklady ~*~ wrote:
>
> > 26 February (today) - Tested Water - 20% Water Change
> >
> > (test results)
> >
> > PH: 7.6
> > Ammonia: 0 ppm
> > Nitrites: 0 ppm
> > Nitrates: 0 ppm
>
> And just how did you end up with zero Nitrates?
>
> The only way to keep all 3 at zero is to have an empty tank.


I have a heavily planted 77g tank that I do 50% water changes on weekly and
then dry dose ferts twice a week including 2 tsps of KN03. This tank has 4
large Bala Sharks and 5 decent size clown loaches along with an assortment
of other community fishes. My test kit barely shows any nitrate and if I
didn't add it would show nothing although obviously there would be an
unmeasurable amount in the tank.

Rick

[MarAzul]

"~*~ Vosklady ~*~" > wrote in message
...
> Things seem to be working well with this combination. The corys I put in
are
> of the Corydoras Paleatus variety. From what I understand, this particular
> type get a bit bigger than most cory cats. I read somewhere they can get
up
> to 4" (someone, please correct me if I'm wrong or what I've read is
> incorrect). The ones I've got are around 2" or so.

> Regards,
>
> ~*~ Vosklady ~*~
>
>

LFS has a paleatus that is about 3" and it's a monster! 4" sounds about
right if I recall...

Mar
------------------------------------------------
"I meant," said Ipslore, bitterly,"what is there in this world that makes
living worthwhile?"

Death thought about it.
"Cats," he said eventually, "Cats are nice."

-Terry Pratchett, 'Sourcery'

[~*~ Vosklady ~*~]

"Rick" > wrote in message
...
:
: "~*~ Vosklady ~*~" > wrote in message
: ...
: > "Reg" > wrote in message
: news:Exz%b.626182$ts4.497322@pd7tw3no...
: > : Just curious. I would never have considered putting any cichlid with
: > : corys. Have you had good luck with this combination?
: > :
: > : Reg
: > :
: >
: > Hi Reg . . . :)
: >
: > Things seem to be working well with this combination. The corys I put in
: are
: > of the Corydoras Paleatus variety. From what I understand, this
particular
: > type get a bit bigger than most cory cats. I read somewhere they can get
: up
: > to 4" (someone, please correct me if I'm wrong or what I've read is
: > incorrect). The ones I've got are around 2" or so.
: >
: > From what I've seen, the cichlids really don't seem to mind the cats . .
..
: > they do sometimes chase after one of the cats if the cat moves into
their
: > "territory" but the cats seem to be much quicker than the cichlids and
can
: > easily outswim them. However, this really doesn't happen often (that
I've
: > seen so far). Let's hope things remain "peaceful" in the tank . . . :)
: >
: > I initially thought to move my panda cory cats over from my other tank
to
: > this new one, but was concerned due to their small size and this is why
I
: > opted to get a larger variety. My cichlids are still rather young (about
: the
: > size of a half-dollar or so). I wanted to get other fish in there so
: they'd
: > be used to them by the time they were larger themselves.
: >
: > Regards,
: >
: > ~*~ Vosklady ~*~
: >
: > 6-7 cm which is 2 1/2 to 3" for C. paleatus.
:
: Rick

Thanks Rick :)

They look much bigger than the pandas when I got them.

Regards,

Vosklady

[~*~ Vosklady ~*~]

"MarAzul" > wrote in message
news:erU%b.5912$Zp.5536@fed1read07...
:
: "~*~ Vosklady ~*~" > wrote in message
: ...
: > Things seem to be working well with this combination. The corys I put in
: are
: > of the Corydoras Paleatus variety. From what I understand, this
particular
: > type get a bit bigger than most cory cats. I read somewhere they can get
: up
: > to 4" (someone, please correct me if I'm wrong or what I've read is
: > incorrect). The ones I've got are around 2" or so.
:
: > Regards,
: >
: > ~*~ Vosklady ~*~
: >
: >
:
: LFS has a paleatus that is about 3" and it's a monster! 4" sounds about
: right if I recall...
:
: Mar

Hi Mar . . . :)

From what I can tell, these guys will end up a pretty decent size. I'll have
to snap a picture and post it on some free web space somewhere (I don't get
the .aquaria binaries).

When I returned home after buying these corys, I did notice that I only had
4 peppered cory cats and two other varieties. So far I've identified one as
a green emerald cory but the other one I haven't identified yet. These two
are much smaller than the peppered ones, but they seem to be doing just fine
holding their own in the tank. I would have noticed when the guy netted
them, but at the time (after talking to the guy and telling him what I
wanted) I was busy getting my 6 year old collected (he was very excited with
all the fish he was seeing, so I went off to talk with him while the guy
bagged up my fish). *Note To Self: Never let a guy who says he's been on
the job only 1 hour bag up fish alone * lol

Regards,

~*~ Vosklady ~*~

[~*~ Vosklady ~*~]

"NetMax" > wrote in message
. ..
:
: "~*~ Vosklady ~*~" > wrote in message
: ...
: > "Polarhound" > wrote in message
: > ...
: > : ~*~ Vosklady ~*~ wrote:
: <snip>
: > Regards,
: >
: > ~*~ Vosklady ~*~
: >
: > *forgive is double posted . . . newserver burping again . . . grrrr)
:
: Hi Vosklady,
: I don't think you are double posting as I only see 2 posts and the text
: is different (one has your apology and the other doesn't). Is it
: possible that a problem in your configuration is making you see 2 posts,
: when there is really only one being sent out?
:
: NetMax

Hi Max . . . :)

Thanks for letting me know, I appreciate it. : D

Well, that could very well be the case. When this happens (when I believe
I've double posted): I post as normal, then see my post come up but when I
go to read it I come up with a message that says it's no longer available on
the server. After this happens, I'll reset the newsgroup and the post will
be gone completely, so I repost. I wonder if perhaps it's Outlook Express
that's doing this. I'll have to test with another newsreader and see.

Regards,

~*~ Vosklady ~*~

[Michi Henning]

> "Polarhound" > wrote in message
> :
> : And just how did you end up with zero Nitrates?
> :
> : The only way to keep all 3 at zero is to have an empty tank.

I have to disagree there. My tank had all three at zero at one point.
All you need is a densely planted tank with a comparatively low
fish load. The filter removes the ammonia and the nitrites, and
the plants remove the nitrates. I have to add NO3 to my tank
to keep the plants happy...

Cheers,

Michi.

--
Michi Henning Ph: +61 4 1118-2700
ZeroC, Inc. http://www.zeroc.com

[MarAzul]

"~*~ Vosklady ~*~" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Mar . . . :)
>
> From what I can tell, these guys will end up a pretty decent size. I'll
have
> to snap a picture and post it on some free web space somewhere (I don't
get
> the .aquaria binaries).
>
> When I returned home after buying these corys, I did notice that I only
had
> 4 peppered cory cats and two other varieties. So far I've identified one
as
> a green emerald cory but the other one I haven't identified yet. These two
> are much smaller than the peppered ones, but they seem to be doing just
fine
> holding their own in the tank. I would have noticed when the guy netted
> them, but at the time (after talking to the guy and telling him what I
> wanted) I was busy getting my 6 year old collected (he was very excited
with
> all the fish he was seeing, so I went off to talk with him while the guy
> bagged up my fish). *Note To Self: Never let a guy who says he's been on
> the job only 1 hour bag up fish alone * lol
>
> Regards,
>
> ~*~ Vosklady ~*~
>
>

If it's an Emerald Cat it's not a true cory... Family Callichthyidae is the
same as cories but genus/species is Brochis splendens. I have 2 of the cute
little guys...
http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/profile.asp?id=Brochis+splendens

http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/category.asp?id=Catfish%20and%20Bottom%20Feeders

Mar

[~*~ Vosklady ~*~]

"MarAzul" > wrote in message
news:Srb0c.6101$Zp.4364@fed1read07...
:
: "~*~ Vosklady ~*~" > wrote in message
: ...
: > Hi Mar . . . :)
: >
: > From what I can tell, these guys will end up a pretty decent size. I'll
: have
: > to snap a picture and post it on some free web space somewhere (I don't
: get
: > the .aquaria binaries).
: >
: > When I returned home after buying these corys, I did notice that I only
: had
: > 4 peppered cory cats and two other varieties. So far I've identified one
: as
: > a green emerald cory but the other one I haven't identified yet. These
two
: > are much smaller than the peppered ones, but they seem to be doing just
: fine
: > holding their own in the tank. I would have noticed when the guy netted
: > them, but at the time (after talking to the guy and telling him what I
: > wanted) I was busy getting my 6 year old collected (he was very excited
: with
: > all the fish he was seeing, so I went off to talk with him while the guy
: > bagged up my fish). *Note To Self: Never let a guy who says he's been
on
: > the job only 1 hour bag up fish alone * lol
: >
: > Regards,
: >
: > ~*~ Vosklady ~*~
: >
: >
:
: If it's an Emerald Cat it's not a true cory... Family Callichthyidae is
the
: same as cories but genus/species is Brochis splendens. I have 2 of the
cute
: little guys...
: http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/profile.asp?id=Brochis+splendens
:
:
http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/category.asp?id=Catfish%20and%20Bottom%20Feeders
:
: Mar
:
Hi Mar . . . :)

Thanks for the links, it's appreciated. After seeing the pictures on the
links, I may have to wait to say it's an emerald (it's still rather small,
but it does have a bit of greenish color on it). The other smaller cory is
kind of pinkish with a dark greyish line beneath the dorsal fin, so I'm
still trying to figure out what he might be.

Regards,

~*~ Vosklady ~*~

[~*~ Vosklady ~*~]

"MarAzul" > wrote in message
news:Srb0c.6101$Zp.4364@fed1read07...
:
: "~*~ Vosklady ~*~" > wrote in message
: ...
: > Hi Mar . . . :)
: >
: > From what I can tell, these guys will end up a pretty decent size. I'll
: have
: > to snap a picture and post it on some free web space somewhere (I don't
: get
: > the .aquaria binaries).
: >
: > When I returned home after buying these corys, I did notice that I only
: had
: > 4 peppered cory cats and two other varieties. So far I've identified one
: as
: > a green emerald cory but the other one I haven't identified yet. These
two
: > are much smaller than the peppered ones, but they seem to be doing just
: fine
: > holding their own in the tank. I would have noticed when the guy netted
: > them, but at the time (after talking to the guy and telling him what I
: > wanted) I was busy getting my 6 year old collected (he was very excited
: with
: > all the fish he was seeing, so I went off to talk with him while the guy
: > bagged up my fish). *Note To Self: Never let a guy who says he's been
on
: > the job only 1 hour bag up fish alone * lol
: >
: > Regards,
: >
: > ~*~ Vosklady ~*~
: >
: >
:
: If it's an Emerald Cat it's not a true cory... Family Callichthyidae is
the
: same as cories but genus/species is Brochis splendens. I have 2 of the
cute
: little guys...
: http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/profile.asp?id=Brochis+splendens
:
:
http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/category.asp?id=Catfish%20and%20Bottom%20Feeders
:
: Mar
:
Hi Mar . . . :)

Thanks for the links, it's appreciated. After seeing the pictures on the
links, I may have to wait to say it's an emerald (it's still rather small,
but it does have a bit of greenish color on it). The other smaller cory is
kind of pinkish with a dark greyish line beneath the dorsal fin, so I'm
still trying to figure out what he might be.

Regards,

~*~ Vosklady ~*~

[Brian]

Whatever you do, do not freeze he Bio-Spira and make sure to buy this
product from a store that understands this and has not done this. I
have found that the product does not specify ANYWHERE that it should
not be frozen. This is specified on the web site. The only warnings
on the package are: Live Bacteria / Keep Refrigerated.

Apparently, Live Bacteria does not spur people to NOT FREEZE this
product, thinking naturally that freezing is just a natural better
next step to the Refrigerator. In this case it is not and anyone who
does freeze this product has ruined it and wasted their money.