Testing rock and driftwood

[JHudson]

Hi
I have a rock and a piece of driftwood in a tank with a few feeders to see
if they're safe. How long should I wait before putting them in a show tank?

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[Paul]

JHudson wrote in message ...
>Hi
>I have a rock and a piece of driftwood in a tank with a few feeders to see
>if they're safe. How long should I wait before putting them in a show
tank?
>
>--
>Janine Hudson
>Sure. Fine. Whatever. -Syzygy
>I have. I did. It's done. -Fight the Future
>Duct tape is like the Force, it has a dark side and a light side and it
>holds the universe together.
>I'm completely normal, just the rest of the world is nuts...
>There are lies, damn lies and statistics!
>
>

I guess the longer you wait, the more sure you can be that they are safe.
Surely a week would be a pretty safe amount of time. Make sure you have as
little water in the bucket as possible so if anything is leaching out of
your rock or driftwood then it's in a higher concentration in the water.

[Sam]

Have you boiled the rock and drift wood yet? I'd boil the rock to make sure
that it is clean and the drift wood to get all of the brown stuff out of it.

Sam

"JHudson" > wrote in message
news:B2u%b.84160$Hy3.33470@edtnps89...
> Hi
> I have a rock and a piece of driftwood in a tank with a few feeders to see
> if they're safe. How long should I wait before putting them in a show
tank?
>
> --
> Janine Hudson
> Sure. Fine. Whatever. -Syzygy
> I have. I did. It's done. -Fight the Future
> Duct tape is like the Force, it has a dark side and a light side and it
> holds the universe together.
> I'm completely normal, just the rest of the world is nuts...
> There are lies, damn lies and statistics!
>
>

[JHudson]

"Sam" > wrote in message
...
> Have you boiled the rock and drift wood yet? I'd boil the rock to make
sure
> that it is clean and the drift wood to get all of the brown stuff out of
it.
>
> Sam
Hi
I boiled the rock for 10 minutes and driftwood for about 16 hours(over two
days) The driftwood is still leaching but not as bad as it had been. It
takes a couple days for the water to become noticably yellow/brown. Guppies
are fine and don't seem to be bothered by anything and its been 2 days.
Anyone tell me what is bad about rocks that fizz? What do they release into
the water?
--
Janine Hudson
Sure. Fine. Whatever. -Syzygy
I have. I did. It's done. -Fight the Future
Duct tape is like the Force, it has a dark side and a light side and it
holds the universe together.
I'm completely normal, just the rest of the world is nuts...
There are lies, damn lies and statistics!

[Craig Williams]

The brown stuff that the wood put into the water ins Melonin or something
like that I can't remember exactly. It is the same stuff that peat puts out
& is not bad for the fish. It is actually good for many South American
tropical fish. It helps to soften the water & makes the water chemistry more
like thier natural water. If you don't like the color change the Charcaol in
most filters will get rid of that after about 1 week.

"JHudson" > wrote in message
news:Nm_%b.97610$Hy3.1127@edtnps89...
>
> "Sam" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Have you boiled the rock and drift wood yet? I'd boil the rock to make
> sure
> > that it is clean and the drift wood to get all of the brown stuff out of
> it.
> >
> > Sam
> Hi
> I boiled the rock for 10 minutes and driftwood for about 16 hours(over two
> days) The driftwood is still leaching but not as bad as it had been. It
> takes a couple days for the water to become noticably yellow/brown.
Guppies
> are fine and don't seem to be bothered by anything and its been 2 days.
> Anyone tell me what is bad about rocks that fizz? What do they release
into
> the water?
> --
> Janine Hudson
> Sure. Fine. Whatever. -Syzygy
> I have. I did. It's done. -Fight the Future
> Duct tape is like the Force, it has a dark side and a light side and it
> holds the universe together.
> I'm completely normal, just the rest of the world is nuts...
> There are lies, damn lies and statistics!
>
>

[NetMax]

"JHudson" > wrote in message
news:Nm_%b.97610$Hy3.1127@edtnps89...
>
> "Sam" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Have you boiled the rock and drift wood yet? I'd boil the rock to
make
> sure
> > that it is clean and the drift wood to get all of the brown stuff out
of
> it.
> >
> > Sam
> Hi
> I boiled the rock for 10 minutes and driftwood for about 16 hours(over
two
> days) The driftwood is still leaching but not as bad as it had been.
It
> takes a couple days for the water to become noticably yellow/brown.
Guppies
> are fine and don't seem to be bothered by anything and its been 2 days.
> Anyone tell me what is bad about rocks that fizz? What do they release
into
> the water?
> --
> Janine Hudson

The Guppies (and most fish) will not be bothered by the tannic acids from
the wood, unless it brings the pH down too much (Guppies like neutral to
higher pH levels). Rocks which fizz (when you drip acid on them, like pH
down) are reacting with the carbonates in the rock. Most rocks with high
carbonates will have lots of calcium as well. The calcium will leech
into the water making the water harder (probably good for Guppies), and
the carbonates might cause your pH to settle at a higher level than where
you currently are. Note that there are always exceptions. I have
sandstone which settles at 7.4pH, and my tap water is 8.4pH. The
sandstone 'softening' effect is insignificant in my high kH, so I ignore
it.

NetMax

[Craig Williams]

Thats the name! "tannic acids" Thanks Netmax

> The Guppies (and most fish) will not be bothered by the tannic acids from
> the wood, unless it brings the pH down too much (Guppies like neutral to
> higher pH levels). Rocks which fizz (when you drip acid on them, like pH
> down) are reacting with the carbonates in the rock. Most rocks with high
> carbonates will have lots of calcium as well. The calcium will leech
> into the water making the water harder (probably good for Guppies), and
> the carbonates might cause your pH to settle at a higher level than where
> you currently are. Note that there are always exceptions. I have
> sandstone which settles at 7.4pH, and my tap water is 8.4pH. The
> sandstone 'softening' effect is insignificant in my high kH, so I ignore
> it.
>
> NetMax
>
>

[Harry Muscle]

"NetMax" > wrote in message
...
>
> "JHudson" > wrote in message
> news:Nm_%b.97610$Hy3.1127@edtnps89...
> >
> > "Sam" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Have you boiled the rock and drift wood yet? I'd boil the rock to
> make
> > sure
> > > that it is clean and the drift wood to get all of the brown stuff out
> of
> > it.
> > >
> > > Sam
> > Hi
> > I boiled the rock for 10 minutes and driftwood for about 16 hours(over
> two
> > days) The driftwood is still leaching but not as bad as it had been.
> It
> > takes a couple days for the water to become noticably yellow/brown.
> Guppies
> > are fine and don't seem to be bothered by anything and its been 2 days.
> > Anyone tell me what is bad about rocks that fizz? What do they relea
> to
> > the water?
> > --
> > Janine Hudson
>
> The Guppies (and most fish) will not be bothered by the tannic acids from
> the wood, unless it brings the pH down too much (Guppies like neutral to
> higher pH levels). Rocks which fizz (when you drip acid on them, like pH
> down) are reacting with the carbonates in the rock. Most rocks with high
> carbonates will have lots of calcium as well. The calcium will leech
> into the water making the water harder (probably good for Guppies), and
> the carbonates might cause your pH to settle at a higher level than where
> you currently are. Note that there are always exceptions. I have
> sandstone which settles at 7.4pH, and my tap water is 8.4pH. The
> sandstone 'softening' effect is insignificant in my high kH, so I ignore
> it.
>
> NetMax
>
>

Sandstone can soften water? Would it reduce the ph also? How does it do
this? Just curious.

Thanks,
Harry




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