Volcanic rock???

[miskairal]

I'm not a geologist and don't remember much about what I was taught at
school on the topic but my hubby tells me that over in the far back
corner of our farm is an area that a geologist told him had been a
volcano. There is rock there that looks very much like some live rock,
very porous and open but dark coloured.

I need way more rock in my tank but am happy to add dead rock and wait.
How can I find out if I could use this stuff? I know there have never
been chemicals of any sort used over there and the only possibility of
anything like that contaminating it would have been if cattle were
dipped for ticks in the yards about a kilometre away and went straight
there, which they don't, still dripping (not really possible in our dry
climate).

Cheerio
miskairal

[Wayne Sallee]

Volcanic rock is very porus, but it has nothing else to
offer. Best to stick with light weight calcium based rock.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



miskairal wrote on 3/16/2006 5:15 PM:
> I'm not a geologist and don't remember much about what I was taught at
> school on the topic but my hubby tells me that over in the far back
> corner of our farm is an area that a geologist told him had been a
> volcano. There is rock there that looks very much like some live rock,
> very porous and open but dark coloured.
>
> I need way more rock in my tank but am happy to add dead rock and wait.
> How can I find out if I could use this stuff? I know there have never
> been chemicals of any sort used over there and the only possibility of
> anything like that contaminating it would have been if cattle were
> dipped for ticks in the yards about a kilometre away and went straight
> there, which they don't, still dripping (not really possible in our dry
> climate).
>
> Cheerio
> miskairal

[miskairal]

Does the Ca get released into the tank?
I'm the one with the Ca reading of 600 while using NO additives. Not
that I imagine that will last once I get more corals.

Thanks Wayne



Wayne Sallee wrote:
> Volcanic rock is very porus, but it has nothing else to offer. Best to
> stick with light weight calcium based rock.
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>
>
> miskairal wrote on 3/16/2006 5:15 PM:
>
>> I'm not a geologist and don't remember much about what I was taught at
>> school on the topic but my hubby tells me that over in the far back
>> corner of our farm is an area that a geologist told him had been a
>> volcano. There is rock there that looks very much like some live rock,
>> very porous and open but dark coloured.
>>
>> I need way more rock in my tank but am happy to add dead rock and
>> wait. How can I find out if I could use this stuff? I know there have
>> never been chemicals of any sort used over there and the only
>> possibility of anything like that contaminating it would have been if
>> cattle were dipped for ticks in the yards about a kilometre away and
>> went straight there, which they don't, still dripping (not really
>> possible in our dry climate).
>>
>> Cheerio
>> miskairal

[William Marsh]

Hi Miskairal: We have on part of town here in Ks that the city water comes
from a lake that must have a high calcium concentration. People there never
add Calcium to there tanks it comes with water changes. maybe that is why
your calcium is so high. lucky you.
Bill
"miskairal" > wrote in message
...
> Does the Ca get released into the tank?
> I'm the one with the Ca reading of 600 while using NO additives. Not that
> I imagine that will last once I get more corals.
>
> Thanks Wayne
>
>
>
> Wayne Sallee wrote:
>> Volcanic rock is very porus, but it has nothing else to offer. Best to
>> stick with light weight calcium based rock.
>>
>> Wayne Sallee
>> Wayne's Pets
>>
>>
>>
>> miskairal wrote on 3/16/2006 5:15 PM:
>>
>>> I'm not a geologist and don't remember much about what I was taught at
>>> school on the topic but my hubby tells me that over in the far back
>>> corner of our farm is an area that a geologist told him had been a
>>> volcano. There is rock there that looks very much like some live rock,
>>> very porous and open but dark coloured.
>>>
>>> I need way more rock in my tank but am happy to add dead rock and wait.
>>> How can I find out if I could use this stuff? I know there have never
>>> been chemicals of any sort used over there and the only possibility of
>>> anything like that contaminating it would have been if cattle were
>>> dipped for ticks in the yards about a kilometre away and went straight
>>> there, which they don't, still dripping (not really possible in our dry
>>> climate).
>>>
>>> Cheerio
>>> miskairal

[Boomer]

Yes, some water supplies can be very high in Ca. We have had a few on the chem forum with
this issue/problem

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"William Marsh" > wrote in message
...
: Hi Miskairal: We have on part of town here in Ks that the city water comes
: from a lake that must have a high calcium concentration. People there never
: add Calcium to there tanks it comes with water changes. maybe that is why
: your calcium is so high. lucky you.
: Bill
: "miskairal" > wrote in message
: ...
: > Does the Ca get released into the tank?
: > I'm the one with the Ca reading of 600 while using NO additives. Not that
: > I imagine that will last once I get more corals.
: >
: > Thanks Wayne
: >
: >
: >
: > Wayne Sallee wrote:
: >> Volcanic rock is very porus, but it has nothing else to offer. Best to
: >> stick with light weight calcium based rock.
: >>
: >> Wayne Sallee
: >> Wayne's Pets
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >> miskairal wrote on 3/16/2006 5:15 PM:
: >>
: >>> I'm not a geologist and don't remember much about what I was taught at
: >>> school on the topic but my hubby tells me that over in the far back
: >>> corner of our farm is an area that a geologist told him had been a
: >>> volcano. There is rock there that looks very much like some live rock,
: >>> very porous and open but dark coloured.
: >>>
: >>> I need way more rock in my tank but am happy to add dead rock and wait.
: >>> How can I find out if I could use this stuff? I know there have never
: >>> been chemicals of any sort used over there and the only possibility of
: >>> anything like that contaminating it would have been if cattle were
: >>> dipped for ticks in the yards about a kilometre away and went straight
: >>> there, which they don't, still dripping (not really possible in our dry
: >>> climate).
: >>>
: >>> Cheerio
: >>> miskairal
:
:

[Boomer]

The real issue here, although I'm not that concerned, is the leaching of heavy metals
which bothers some reefers.

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"miskairal" > wrote in message
...
: I'm not a geologist and don't remember much about what I was taught at
: school on the topic but my hubby tells me that over in the far back
: corner of our farm is an area that a geologist told him had been a
: volcano. There is rock there that looks very much like some live rock,
: very porous and open but dark coloured.
:
: I need way more rock in my tank but am happy to add dead rock and wait.
: How can I find out if I could use this stuff? I know there have never
: been chemicals of any sort used over there and the only possibility of
: anything like that contaminating it would have been if cattle were
: dipped for ticks in the yards about a kilometre away and went straight
: there, which they don't, still dripping (not really possible in our dry
: climate).
:
: Cheerio
: miskairal

[Wayne Sallee]

The calcium does disolve some, mainly from things digging
in it. Criters can't dig in lava rock. There are some
creatrus that take sulfur from the water and produce
sulfuric acid, and slowly etch into the calcium rock. Some
createrus chew their way into the rock. This is natural,
and good. Lava rock does not offer this. Denitrification
seems to take place better in calcium base rock and sand,
than silica based rock and sand. I can't say for sure what
the difference is, but it just seems to be be better,
maybe it's the buffering ability. Maybe it's available
minerals. I don't know, it just seems better to me.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



miskairal wrote on 3/17/2006 3:16 AM:
> Does the Ca get released into the tank?
> I'm the one with the Ca reading of 600 while using NO additives. Not
> that I imagine that will last once I get more corals.
>
> Thanks Wayne
>
>
>
> Wayne Sallee wrote:
>> Volcanic rock is very porus, but it has nothing else to offer. Best to
>> stick with light weight calcium based rock.
>>
>> Wayne Sallee
>> Wayne's Pets
>>
>>
>>
>> miskairal wrote on 3/16/2006 5:15 PM:
>>
>>> I'm not a geologist and don't remember much about what I was taught
>>> at school on the topic but my hubby tells me that over in the far
>>> back corner of our farm is an area that a geologist told him had been
>>> a volcano. There is rock there that looks very much like some live
>>> rock, very porous and open but dark coloured.
>>>
>>> I need way more rock in my tank but am happy to add dead rock and
>>> wait. How can I find out if I could use this stuff? I know there have
>>> never been chemicals of any sort used over there and the only
>>> possibility of anything like that contaminating it would have been if
>>> cattle were dipped for ticks in the yards about a kilometre away and
>>> went straight there, which they don't, still dripping (not really
>>> possible in our dry climate).
>>>
>>> Cheerio
>>> miskairal

[miskairal]

OK, that all makes sense. A shame as I never would pass up something
that is free :)
Thanks for the explanation.


Wayne Sallee wrote:
> The calcium does disolve some, mainly from things digging in it. Criters
> can't dig in lava rock. There are some creatrus that take sulfur from
> the water and produce sulfuric acid, and slowly etch into the calcium
> rock. Some createrus chew their way into the rock. This is natural, and
> good. Lava rock does not offer this. Denitrification seems to take place
> better in calcium base rock and sand, than silica based rock and sand. I
> can't say for sure what the difference is, but it just seems to be be
> better, maybe it's the buffering ability. Maybe it's available minerals.
> I don't know, it just seems better to me.
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>
>
> miskairal wrote on 3/17/2006 3:16 AM:
>
>> Does the Ca get released into the tank?
>> I'm the one with the Ca reading of 600 while using NO additives. Not
>> that I imagine that will last once I get more corals.
>>
>> Thanks Wayne
>>
>>
>>
>> Wayne Sallee wrote:
>>
>>> Volcanic rock is very porus, but it has nothing else to offer. Best
>>> to stick with light weight calcium based rock.
>>>
>>> Wayne Sallee
>>> Wayne's Pets
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> miskairal wrote on 3/16/2006 5:15 PM:
>>>
>>>> I'm not a geologist and don't remember much about what I was taught
>>>> at school on the topic but my hubby tells me that over in the far
>>>> back corner of our farm is an area that a geologist told him had
>>>> been a volcano. There is rock there that looks very much like some
>>>> live rock, very porous and open but dark coloured.
>>>>
>>>> I need way more rock in my tank but am happy to add dead rock and
>>>> wait. How can I find out if I could use this stuff? I know there
>>>> have never been chemicals of any sort used over there and the only
>>>> possibility of anything like that contaminating it would have been
>>>> if cattle were dipped for ticks in the yards about a kilometre away
>>>> and went straight there, which they don't, still dripping (not
>>>> really possible in our dry climate).
>>>>
>>>> Cheerio
>>>> miskairal

[miskairal]

Leaching from where to where?
Sorry but I'm really not up on this stuff (as if you couldn't already
tell that :) )

Boomer wrote:
> The real issue here, although I'm not that concerned, is the leaching of heavy metals
> which bothers some reefers.
>

[miskairal]

Afraid that's not the case. I use RO water and the Ca is 0 in that. It
reaches 600 as soon as I add the coralife salt, before it goes in the
tank. I've tried other brands of salt but they have phosphates present
and the coralife doesn't.


William Marsh wrote:
> Hi Miskairal: We have on part of town here in Ks that the city water comes
> from a lake that must have a high calcium concentration. People there never
> add Calcium to there tanks it comes with water changes. maybe that is why
> your calcium is so high. lucky you.
> Bill
> "miskairal" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Does the Ca get released into the tank?
>>I'm the one with the Ca reading of 600 while using NO additives. Not that
>>I imagine that will last once I get more corals.
>>
>>Thanks Wayne
>>
>>
>>
>>Wayne Sallee wrote:
>>
>>>Volcanic rock is very porus, but it has nothing else to offer. Best to
>>>stick with light weight calcium based rock.
>>>
>>>Wayne Sallee
>>>Wayne's Pets

>>>
>>>
>>>miskairal wrote on 3/16/2006 5:15 PM:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'm not a geologist and don't remember much about what I was taught at
>>>>school on the topic but my hubby tells me that over in the far back
>>>>corner of our farm is an area that a geologist told him had been a
>>>>volcano. There is rock there that looks very much like some live rock,
>>>>very porous and open but dark coloured.
>>>>
>>>>I need way more rock in my tank but am happy to add dead rock and wait.
>>>>How can I find out if I could use this stuff? I know there have never
>>>>been chemicals of any sort used over there and the only possibility of
>>>>anything like that contaminating it would have been if cattle were
>>>>dipped for ticks in the yards about a kilometre away and went straight
>>>>there, which they don't, still dripping (not really possible in our dry
>>>>climate).
>>>>
>>>>Cheerio
>>>>miskairal
>
>
>

[RicSeyler]

That's what I've always heard also, heavy metals in
Volcanic Rock plus some other undesirable minerals.
<shrugs shoulders>


Boomer wrote:

>The real issue here, although I'm not that concerned, is the leaching of heavy metals
>which bothers some reefers.
>
>
>

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[Wayne Sallee]

Try Instant Ocean. I don't like Oceanic.

Wayne Sallee
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miskairal wrote on 3/17/2006 3:44 PM:
> Afraid that's not the case. I use RO water and the Ca is 0 in that. It
> reaches 600 as soon as I add the coralife salt, before it goes in the
> tank. I've tried other brands of salt but they have phosphates present
> and the coralife doesn't.
>
>
> William Marsh wrote:
>> Hi Miskairal: We have on part of town here in Ks that the city water
>> comes from a lake that must have a high calcium concentration. People
>> there never add Calcium to there tanks it comes with water changes.
>> maybe that is why your calcium is so high. lucky you.
>> Bill
>> "miskairal" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Does the Ca get released into the tank?
>>> I'm the one with the Ca reading of 600 while using NO additives. Not
>>> that I imagine that will last once I get more corals.
>>>
>>> Thanks Wayne
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Wayne Sallee wrote:
>>>
>>>> Volcanic rock is very porus, but it has nothing else to offer. Best
>>>> to stick with light weight calcium based rock.
>>>>
>>>> Wayne Sallee
>>>> Wayne's Pets
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> miskairal wrote on 3/16/2006 5:15 PM:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not a geologist and don't remember much about what I was taught
>>>>> at school on the topic but my hubby tells me that over in the far
>>>>> back corner of our farm is an area that a geologist told him had
>>>>> been a volcano. There is rock there that looks very much like some
>>>>> live rock, very porous and open but dark coloured.
>>>>>
>>>>> I need way more rock in my tank but am happy to add dead rock and
>>>>> wait. How can I find out if I could use this stuff? I know there
>>>>> have never been chemicals of any sort used over there and the only
>>>>> possibility of anything like that contaminating it would have been
>>>>> if cattle were dipped for ticks in the yards about a kilometre away
>>>>> and went straight there, which they don't, still dripping (not
>>>>> really possible in our dry climate).
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheerio
>>>>> miskairal
>>
>>
>>

[Boomer]

Is it possible it is a test error or test kit issue ?

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"miskairal" > wrote in message
u...
: Afraid that's not the case. I use RO water and the Ca is 0 in that. It
: reaches 600 as soon as I add the coralife salt, before it goes in the
: tank. I've tried other brands of salt but they have phosphates present
: and the coralife doesn't.
:
:
: William Marsh wrote:
: > Hi Miskairal: We have on part of town here in Ks that the city water comes
: > from a lake that must have a high calcium concentration. People there never
: > add Calcium to there tanks it comes with water changes. maybe that is why
: > your calcium is so high. lucky you.
: > Bill
: > "miskairal" > wrote in message
: > ...
: >
: >>Does the Ca get released into the tank?
: >>I'm the one with the Ca reading of 600 while using NO additives. Not that
: >>I imagine that will last once I get more corals.
: >>
: >>Thanks Wayne
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >>Wayne Sallee wrote:
: >>
: >>>Volcanic rock is very porus, but it has nothing else to offer. Best to
: >>>stick with light weight calcium based rock.
: >>>
: >>>Wayne Sallee
: >>>Wayne's Pets
:
: >>>
: >>>
: >>>miskairal wrote on 3/16/2006 5:15 PM:
: >>>
: >>>
: >>>>I'm not a geologist and don't remember much about what I was taught at
: >>>>school on the topic but my hubby tells me that over in the far back
: >>>>corner of our farm is an area that a geologist told him had been a
: >>>>volcano. There is rock there that looks very much like some live rock,
: >>>>very porous and open but dark coloured.
: >>>>
: >>>>I need way more rock in my tank but am happy to add dead rock and wait.
: >>>>How can I find out if I could use this stuff? I know there have never
: >>>>been chemicals of any sort used over there and the only possibility of
: >>>>anything like that contaminating it would have been if cattle were
: >>>>dipped for ticks in the yards about a kilometre away and went straight
: >>>>there, which they don't, still dripping (not really possible in our dry
: >>>>climate).
: >>>>
: >>>>Cheerio
: >>>>miskairal
: >
: >
: >

[miskairal]

I haven't come across it here so far but will keep my eye out for it.


Wayne Sallee wrote:
> Try Instant Ocean. I don't like Oceanic.
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>
>
> miskairal wrote on 3/17/2006 3:44 PM:
>
>> Afraid that's not the case. I use RO water and the Ca is 0 in that. It
>> reaches 600 as soon as I add the coralife salt, before it goes in the
>> tank. I've tried other brands of salt but they have phosphates present
>> and the coralife doesn't.
>>
>>
>> William Marsh wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Miskairal: We have on part of town here in Ks that the city water
>>> comes from a lake that must have a high calcium concentration.
>>> People there never add Calcium to there tanks it comes with water
>>> changes. maybe that is why your calcium is so high. lucky you.
>>> Bill
>>> "miskairal" > wrote in
>>> message ...
>>>
>>>> Does the Ca get released into the tank?
>>>> I'm the one with the Ca reading of 600 while using NO additives. Not
>>>> that I imagine that will last once I get more corals.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Wayne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wayne Sallee wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Volcanic rock is very porus, but it has nothing else to offer. Best
>>>>> to stick with light weight calcium based rock.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wayne Sallee
>>>>> Wayne's Pets
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> miskairal wrote on 3/16/2006 5:15 PM:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not a geologist and don't remember much about what I was
>>>>>> taught at school on the topic but my hubby tells me that over in
>>>>>> the far back corner of our farm is an area that a geologist told
>>>>>> him had been a volcano. There is rock there that looks very much
>>>>>> like some live rock, very porous and open but dark coloured.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I need way more rock in my tank but am happy to add dead rock and
>>>>>> wait. How can I find out if I could use this stuff? I know there
>>>>>> have never been chemicals of any sort used over there and the only
>>>>>> possibility of anything like that contaminating it would have been
>>>>>> if cattle were dipped for ticks in the yards about a kilometre
>>>>>> away and went straight there, which they don't, still dripping
>>>>>> (not really possible in our dry climate).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheerio
>>>>>> miskairal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

[miskairal]

Well I might have thought so if the RO water wasn't testing 0 and a
petshop didn't get the same result. One day I will get round to testing
the tap water (straight from the creek). By the time I test all my tanks
(FW as well) I get sick of testing. My nearest marine pet shops are all
2 1/2 hour's drive away in 3 different directions :(

I've tested and tested. There is meant to be a colour change from pink
to blue. Mine only changes to dark purple at 600 really. I can get to
higher if I try to go for the exact shade of blue and that is in front
of a window with good light. At 580 the sample is still bright pink.

One thing though. I have some sort of algae or seaweed thing gowing
well. Not overtaking but it's looking quite good. It's bright green and
sort of cactus shaped, like a zygocactus but it is hard. I'm wondering
if it would need Ca to thrive and maybe that is why it is thriving. The
tang doesn't touch it as far as I can tell. Visitors love it and think
it is planned - I don't enlighten them :)

Boomer wrote:
> Is it possible it is a test error or test kit issue ?
>

[Wayne Sallee]

Yep, it takes up a lot of calcium. When it dies, it will
be white as the sand.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



miskairal wrote on 3/18/2006 5:20 AM:
> Well I might have thought so if the RO water wasn't testing 0 and a
> petshop didn't get the same result. One day I will get round to testing
> the tap water (straight from the creek). By the time I test all my tanks
> (FW as well) I get sick of testing. My nearest marine pet shops are all
> 2 1/2 hour's drive away in 3 different directions :(
>
> I've tested and tested. There is meant to be a colour change from pink
> to blue. Mine only changes to dark purple at 600 really. I can get to
> higher if I try to go for the exact shade of blue and that is in front
> of a window with good light. At 580 the sample is still bright pink.
>
> One thing though. I have some sort of algae or seaweed thing gowing
> well. Not overtaking but it's looking quite good. It's bright green and
> sort of cactus shaped, like a zygocactus but it is hard. I'm wondering
> if it would need Ca to thrive and maybe that is why it is thriving. The
> tang doesn't touch it as far as I can tell. Visitors love it and think
> it is planned - I don't enlighten them :)
>
> Boomer wrote:
>> Is it possible it is a test error or test kit issue ?
>>

[miskairal]

That's the stuff alright. Only a couple of pieces have broken off and
died. I was told it is illegal to dump this stuff in the ocean here. Not
that I intended to but a fellow reefer just passed the comment. He said
it can become a nuisance.

Wayne Sallee wrote:
> Yep, it takes up a lot of calcium. When it dies, it will be white as the
> sand.
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>
>
> miskairal wrote on 3/18/2006 5:20 AM:
>
>> Well I might have thought so if the RO water wasn't testing 0 and a
>> petshop didn't get the same result. One day I will get round to
>> testing the tap water (straight from the creek). By the time I test
>> all my tanks (FW as well) I get sick of testing. My nearest marine pet
>> shops are all 2 1/2 hour's drive away in 3 different directions :(
>>
>> I've tested and tested. There is meant to be a colour change from pink
>> to blue. Mine only changes to dark purple at 600 really. I can get to
>> higher if I try to go for the exact shade of blue and that is in front
>> of a window with good light. At 580 the sample is still bright pink.
>>
>> One thing though. I have some sort of algae or seaweed thing gowing
>> well. Not overtaking but it's looking quite good. It's bright green
>> and sort of cactus shaped, like a zygocactus but it is hard. I'm
>> wondering if it would need Ca to thrive and maybe that is why it is
>> thriving. The tang doesn't touch it as far as I can tell. Visitors
>> love it and think it is planned - I don't enlighten them :)
>>
>> Boomer wrote:
>>
>>> Is it possible it is a test error or test kit issue ?
>>>

[Wayne Sallee]

For the most part, the government does no want anything
put back in the wild, especially if it is not native.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



miskairal wrote on 3/18/2006 3:49 PM:
> That's the stuff alright. Only a couple of pieces have broken off and
> died. I was told it is illegal to dump this stuff in the ocean here. Not
> that I intended to but a fellow reefer just passed the comment. He said
> it can become a nuisance.
>
> Wayne Sallee wrote:
>> Yep, it takes up a lot of calcium. When it dies, it will be white as
>> the sand.
>>
>> Wayne Sallee
>> Wayne's Pets
>>
>>
>>
>> miskairal wrote on 3/18/2006 5:20 AM:
>>
>>> Well I might have thought so if the RO water wasn't testing 0 and a
>>> petshop didn't get the same result. One day I will get round to
>>> testing the tap water (straight from the creek). By the time I test
>>> all my tanks (FW as well) I get sick of testing. My nearest marine
>>> pet shops are all 2 1/2 hour's drive away in 3 different directions :(
>>>
>>> I've tested and tested. There is meant to be a colour change from
>>> pink to blue. Mine only changes to dark purple at 600 really. I can
>>> get to higher if I try to go for the exact shade of blue and that is
>>> in front of a window with good light. At 580 the sample is still
>>> bright pink.
>>>
>>> One thing though. I have some sort of algae or seaweed thing gowing
>>> well. Not overtaking but it's looking quite good. It's bright green
>>> and sort of cactus shaped, like a zygocactus but it is hard. I'm
>>> wondering if it would need Ca to thrive and maybe that is why it is
>>> thriving. The tang doesn't touch it as far as I can tell. Visitors
>>> love it and think it is planned - I don't enlighten them :)
>>>
>>> Boomer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is it possible it is a test error or test kit issue ?
>>>>

[Wayne Sallee]

Under ideal conditions, it can grow quite fast, but it's
very easy to remove in the aquarium. In the ocean, it
actually can contribute quite a bit to the sand/substrate.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



miskairal wrote on 3/18/2006 3:49 PM:
> That's the stuff alright. Only a couple of pieces have broken off and
> died. I was told it is illegal to dump this stuff in the ocean here. Not
> that I intended to but a fellow reefer just passed the comment. He said
> it can become a nuisance.
>
> Wayne Sallee wrote:
>> Yep, it takes up a lot of calcium. When it dies, it will be white as
>> the sand.
>>
>> Wayne Sallee
>> Wayne's Pets
>>
>>
>>
>> miskairal wrote on 3/18/2006 5:20 AM:
>>
>>> Well I might have thought so if the RO water wasn't testing 0 and a
>>> petshop didn't get the same result. One day I will get round to
>>> testing the tap water (straight from the creek). By the time I test
>>> all my tanks (FW as well) I get sick of testing. My nearest marine
>>> pet shops are all 2 1/2 hour's drive away in 3 different directions :(
>>>
>>> I've tested and tested. There is meant to be a colour change from
>>> pink to blue. Mine only changes to dark purple at 600 really. I can
>>> get to higher if I try to go for the exact shade of blue and that is
>>> in front of a window with good light. At 580 the sample is still
>>> bright pink.
>>>
>>> One thing though. I have some sort of algae or seaweed thing gowing
>>> well. Not overtaking but it's looking quite good. It's bright green
>>> and sort of cactus shaped, like a zygocactus but it is hard. I'm
>>> wondering if it would need Ca to thrive and maybe that is why it is
>>> thriving. The tang doesn't touch it as far as I can tell. Visitors
>>> love it and think it is planned - I don't enlighten them :)
>>>
>>> Boomer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is it possible it is a test error or test kit issue ?
>>>>

[Billy]

"miskairal" > wrote in
message u...
> Leaching from where to where?
> Sorry but I'm really not up on this stuff (as if you couldn't
> already tell that :) )


From the rock to your water. The risk is from introducing something
NOT from the ocean (the volcanic rock) into a reef tank. The level of
risk depends on whom you ask, and actual content of the rock, which
is difficult to determine outside a geologists' lab. :)

[George Patterson]

Wayne Sallee wrote:
> For the most part, the government does no want anything put back in the
> wild, especially if it is not native.

You have only to look at that oriental seaweed that's taken over the lakes in
Florida and neighboring States to understand why.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

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On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:20:03 +1000, miskairal
> wrote:

>Well I might have thought so if the RO water wasn't testing 0 and a
>petshop didn't get the same result. One day I will get round to testing
>the tap water (straight from the creek). By the time I test all my tanks
>(FW as well) I get sick of testing. My nearest marine pet shops are all
>2 1/2 hour's drive away in 3 different directions :(
>

This sounds like a perfect opportunity to open your own LFS - No
competition !!!

Regards, Fishnut.

[RicSeyler]

Yep!

George Patterson wrote:

> Wayne Sallee wrote:
>
>> For the most part, the government does no want anything put back in
>> the wild, especially if it is not native.
>
>
> You have only to look at that oriental seaweed that's taken over the
> lakes in Florida and neighboring States to understand why.
>
> George Patterson
> Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
> your slightly older self.


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[Wayne Sallee]

But probably no sales. She is probably in a sparse location.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



wrote on 3/20/2006 9:38 AM:
> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:20:03 +1000, miskairal
> > wrote:
>
>> Well I might have thought so if the RO water wasn't testing 0 and a
>> petshop didn't get the same result. One day I will get round to testing
>> the tap water (straight from the creek). By the time I test all my tanks
>> (FW as well) I get sick of testing. My nearest marine pet shops are all
>> 2 1/2 hour's drive away in 3 different directions :(
>>
>
> This sounds like a perfect opportunity to open your own LFS - No
> competition !!!
>
> Regards, Fishnut.

[miskairal]

Exactly Wayne. Don't worry fishnut, the thought has crossed my mind but
it would have to be something extra special to attract customers from
the coast where the bulk of the population is. I'd be in heaven if I had
a petshop and so would hubby as he wouldn't have to have all the animals
I've got at home :)

Wayne Sallee wrote:
> But probably no sales. She is probably in a sparse location.
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>
>
> wrote on 3/20/2006 9:38 AM:
>
>> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:20:03 +1000, miskairal
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Well I might have thought so if the RO water wasn't testing 0 and a
>>> petshop didn't get the same result. One day I will get round to
>>> testing the tap water (straight from the creek). By the time I test
>>> all my tanks (FW as well) I get sick of testing. My nearest marine
>>> pet shops are all 2 1/2 hour's drive away in 3 different directions :(
>>>
>>
>> This sounds like a perfect opportunity to open your own LFS - No
>> competition !!!
>>
>> Regards, Fishnut.