when can i replace dead pond goldfish

[DB01]

I lost all my goldfish during one of the cold periods this winter. they were
4 yeards old

[Koi-Lo]

"DB01" > wrote in message
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>I lost all my goldfish during one of the cold periods this winter. they
>were 4 yeards old
===============
Anytime if the place you're buying them from keeps them outdoors and is
local. Are you sure it was the cold that killed them as they're very cold
resistant.
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[Gill Passman]

DB01 wrote:
> I lost all my goldfish during one of the cold periods this winter. they were
> 4 yeards old
>
>
what part of the world are you in and how cold did it actually get?

[~ janj]

>On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:12:07 GMT, "DB01" > wrote:

>I lost all my goldfish during one of the cold periods this winter. they were
>4 yeards old

Do a 50% water change, wait till the temperatures of the water get up in
the 70's (if buying inside fish), take a water sample to the Fish Store. If
all checks out, buy 2 GF.

Why do you think you lost them this year? Too many, no aeration, power
outage? ~ jan
~ jan/WA
Zone 7a

[DB01]

"~ janj" > wrote in message
...
> >On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:12:07 GMT, "DB01" >
> >wrote:
>
>>I lost all my goldfish during one of the cold periods this winter. they
>>were
>>4 yeards old
>
> Do a 50% water change, wait till the temperatures of the water get up in
> the 70's (if buying inside fish), take a water sample to the Fish Store.
> If
> all checks out, buy 2 GF.
>
> Why do you think you lost them this year? Too many, no aeration, power
> outage? ~ jan
> ~ jan/WA
> Zone 7a

I live in berkshire, se england

the temp. was not worse than previous years but was a very sudden drop
I think the waters OK cos one of the 3 frogs from last year has appeared

thanx for the quick responces. Is there any test i ca carry out?

[Gill Passman]

DB01 wrote:
> "~ janj" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>>On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:12:07 GMT, "DB01" >
>>>wrote:
>>
>>>I lost all my goldfish during one of the cold periods this winter. they
>>>were
>>>4 yeards old
>>
>>Do a 50% water change, wait till the temperatures of the water get up in
>>the 70's (if buying inside fish), take a water sample to the Fish Store.
>>If
>>all checks out, buy 2 GF.
>>
>>Why do you think you lost them this year? Too many, no aeration, power
>>outage? ~ jan
>>~ jan/WA
>>Zone 7a
>
>
> I live in berkshire, se england
>
> the temp. was not worse than previous years but was a very sudden drop
> I think the waters OK cos one of the 3 frogs from last year has appeared
>
> thanx for the quick responces. Is there any test i ca carry out?
>
>
The weather was pretty strange this winter where you live. Going from
mild to very sudden cold snaps with it not getting much above freezing
during the day and bitter at night. I don't have any outdoor fish at the
moment but I certainly lost a lot of very hardy plants this winter...

My guess is that you are right and it was the temperature swings that
are the cause of your fish losses...

Gill

[~ janj]

>> Do a 50% water change, wait till the temperatures of the water get up in
>> the 70's (if buying inside fish), take a water sample to the Fish Store.
>> If all checks out, buy 2 GF. ~ jan
>
>"DB01" > wrote:

>I live in berkshire, se england
>
> the temp. was not worse than previous years but was a very sudden drop
>I think the waters OK cos one of the 3 frogs from last year has appeared

Frogs can put up with different water parameters than fish. They don't have
to "breath" the water. :o)

>thanx for the quick responces. Is there any test i ca carry out?

The tests I recommend are Ammonia, Nitrite, pH & KH. Results from those
tell me the most about someone's pond. Your local fish/pet store may test
the water for you. Gill would know what is offered in your part of the
world, as she is far closer to you, by a few miles, than I. ;o) ~ jan
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[Koi-Lo]

"DB01" > wrote in message
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> the temp. was not worse than previous years but was a very sudden drop
> I think the waters OK cos one of the 3 frogs from last year has appeared
===============
Please do not go by frogs as they can live in water unfit for fish.
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sudden drops in temp can bring in ich. and the fish are coming out of a long period
with no food, so they are weak and their immune system is down if the water temp is
less than 55oF.
it is important to grab one of those fish and do the physical on it if it hasnt been
dead too long. the diagnosis is for live fish, but can do it on fresh dead
http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/disease/technique/technique.html#Jo_Ann's_Fish_Physical
post mortem changes, the gills go white, the slime coat thicks up really fast. but
inside the fish possible to see if there is infection, if the liver is huge or gone,
etc. http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/disease/technique/gf_anat.html
Ingrid

"DB01" > wrote:
>I live in berkshire, se england
>
> the temp. was not worse than previous years but was a very sudden drop
>I think the waters OK cos one of the 3 frogs from last year has appeared
>
>thanx for the quick responces. Is there any test i ca carry out?
>



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[BoyPete]

DB01 wrote:
> "~ janj" > wrote in message
> ...
>>> On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:12:07 GMT, "DB01"
>>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I lost all my goldfish during one of the cold periods this winter.
>>> they were
>>> 4 yeards old
>>
>> Do a 50% water change, wait till the temperatures of the water get
>> up in the 70's (if buying inside fish), take a water sample to the
>> Fish Store. If
>> all checks out, buy 2 GF.
>>
>> Why do you think you lost them this year? Too many, no aeration,
>> power outage? ~ jan
>> ~ jan/WA
>> Zone 7a
>
> I live in berkshire, se england
>
> the temp. was not worse than previous years but was a very sudden drop
> I think the waters OK cos one of the 3 frogs from last year has
> appeared
> thanx for the quick responces. Is there any test i ca carry out?

Can you get to Maidenhead Aquatics?
Wyevale Country Gardens
Turnpike Road
Thatcham
Berks
Tel: 0635869900

I'm sure they will test your water for you. :)

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[Gill Passman]

BoyPete wrote:
> DB01 wrote:
>
>>"~ janj" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>>On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:12:07 GMT, "DB01"
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I lost all my goldfish during one of the cold periods this winter.
>>>>they were
>>>>4 yeards old
>>>
>>>Do a 50% water change, wait till the temperatures of the water get
>>>up in the 70's (if buying inside fish), take a water sample to the
>>>Fish Store. If
>>>all checks out, buy 2 GF.
>>>
>>>Why do you think you lost them this year? Too many, no aeration,
>>>power outage? ~ jan
>>>~ jan/WA
>>>Zone 7a
>>
>>I live in berkshire, se england
>>
>>the temp. was not worse than previous years but was a very sudden drop
>>I think the waters OK cos one of the 3 frogs from last year has
>>appeared
>>thanx for the quick responces. Is there any test i ca carry out?
>
>
> Can you get to Maidenhead Aquatics?
> Wyevale Country Gardens
> Turnpike Road
> Thatcham
> Berks
> Tel: 0635869900
>
> I'm sure they will test your water for you. :)
>

Most of the MAs will do this but might be worth phoning first...

[DB01]

>>>>
>>>>>I lost all my goldfish during one of the cold periods this winter.
>>>>>they were
>>>>>4 yeards old
>>>>
>>>>Do a 50% water change, wait till to the
>>>>Fish Store. If
>>>>all checks out, buy 2 GF.
>>>>
>>>>Why do you think you lost them this year? Too many, no aeration,
>>>>power outage? ~ jan
>>>>~ jan/WA
>>>>Zone 7a
>>>
>>>I live in berkshire, se england
>>>
>>>the temp. was not worse than previous years but was a very sudden drop
>>>I think the waters OK cos one of the 3 frogs from last year has
>>>appeared
>>>thanx for the quick responces. Is there any test i ca carry out?
>>
>>
>> Can you get to Maidenhead Aquatics?
>> Wyevale Country Gardens
>> Turnpike Road
>> Thatcham
>> Berks
>> Tel: 0635869900
>>
>> I'm sure they will test your water for you. :)
>>
>
> Most of the MAs will do this but might be worth phoning first...


thanx to all who replied.
I will get the water tested before re stocking

the nearest stockest to me is Norcutts on the A30(near Bagshot) where i
bought the fish