Silly question about food

[Mellie101]

Hello to everybody. Just a quick question to ask about 'floating
pellets' for goldfish. Does this not go against everything I have ever
read about feeding goldfish? Would this not encourage swim bladder
problems? I went to my local Petco and they were the only pellets I
could find. Very confused.

Going on Vacation soon for 2 weeks and was going to get an automatic
feeder for the 55g. Problem there is my Ryukin is suffering from what
I guess is constipation as she floats on and off. I starve one day a
week and have cut feeding down. So I thought that maybe I'll just get
my friend to come over a few times during my vacation and give them a
measured amount. The problem I now have is my single fry. He will be
about 7-9 weeks old by then so think that he might be a bit young for
infrequent feeding. Was also worried about his water changes. The 55g
will be done before we go away and my friend is going to take a couple
of gallons off and add some aged water in there. The Fluval is so good
that I have faith it will be ok for the 2 weeks. The little 10g with
the fry in will have a filter working by then but as he is so small I
am worried about her scooping him up. Feel like a new mom. I suppose
5 weeks from now he is going to be a whole lot bigger so am probably
worrying prematurely.

Any help with this neuroticism greatly recieved
Mellie

[Nikki]

"Mellie101" > wrote in message
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> Hello to everybody. Just a quick question to ask about 'floating
> pellets' for goldfish. Does this not go against everything I have ever
> read about feeding goldfish? Would this not encourage swim bladder
> problems? I went to my local Petco and they were the only pellets I
> could find. Very confused.
>
> Going on Vacation soon for 2 weeks and was going to get an automatic
> feeder for the 55g. Problem there is my Ryukin is suffering from what
> I guess is constipation as she floats on and off. I starve one day a
> week and have cut feeding down. So I thought that maybe I'll just get
> my friend to come over a few times during my vacation and give them a
> measured amount. The problem I now have is my single fry. He will be
> about 7-9 weeks old by then so think that he might be a bit young for
> infrequent feeding. Was also worried about his water changes. The 55g
> will be done before we go away and my friend is going to take a couple
> of gallons off and add some aged water in there. The Fluval is so good
> that I have faith it will be ok for the 2 weeks. The little 10g with
> the fry in will have a filter working by then but as he is so small I
> am worried about her scooping him up. Feel like a new mom. I suppose
> 5 weeks from now he is going to be a whole lot bigger so am probably
> worrying prematurely.
>
> Any help with this neuroticism greatly recieved
> Mellie


****only my opinion***
Every thing I have ever read said that goldfish, especially the type we have
are prone to swimmers bladder, in which case eating flakes from the top is
bad because they are taking in air which adds to the problem, I started
using wardley goldfish crumbles (slow sinking) it goes down rather quick and
they eat it on the way down and off the bottom, seem to like it a lot, I
still do give flakes because of verity but only a couple times a week, then
at least 1-2 times a week I try giving them pea's and it seems to be working
out pretty good for them. I do pea's either the day before or the day I am
doing water changes, just to be safe as not to file the tank to much. On the
other hand before having that info I used to always feed my goldfish flakes
and never had a problem. The only problem with the sinking food is if they
dont eat it all and it rots in the gravel and they then eat it they can get
sick, I have never seen mine miss or leave a piece however they are little
piggy's.
As far as going away and the baby, I would do the tank the day before
leaving, maybe if he is big enough by then it wont be a problem, make sure
she takes the water out with something she can inspect after before dumping
the water out. what are you feeding the little guy now, maybe show her how
you do it. I cant remember how you have it set up filter and stuff
Nik

[Mellie101]

Hi, thanks Nikki. I haven't put a filter in yet as I only got it last
week and haven't had the time to test it yet. I've been doing 10%
water changes every 2-3 days but have been doing water tests and it is
all good. The little bugger is getting bigger by the day. So cute. I
have an air stone in there and a small undergravel filter that covers
1/3 of the tank so there is some filteration. I'm still crushing flake
food for him. Was going to ask when and what I can change it to
something else. I have some freeze dried dapnia that is very small so
was wandering if he could have that occasionally?

I'm doing ok with the bigger goldfish but I'm scared to death of the
little one :-)

Mellie

[Koi-Lo]

Moments before spontaneously combusting <Mellie101> at
> was heard opining:

> Hello to everybody. Just a quick question to ask about 'floating
> pellets' for goldfish. Does this not go against everything I have
> ever read about feeding goldfish? Would this not encourage swim
> bladder problems? I went to my local Petco and they were the only
> pellets I could find. Very confused.

All my GF get pellets along with their other foods. I haven't had a floater
in years,

> Going on Vacation soon for 2 weeks and was going to get an automatic
> feeder for the 55g. Problem there is my Ryukin is suffering from what
> I guess is constipation as she floats on and off.

If it's a deformed swim-bladder constipation has nothing to do with it. You
can start giving them orange sliced thinly. Remove uneaten portion after
several hours. This has a lot of fiber. They may also enjoy nibbling cukes
and zucchinis.

I starve one day a
> week and have cut feeding down. So I thought that maybe I'll just get
> my friend to come over a few times during my vacation and give them a
> measured amount.

Yes, measure it before hand and HIDE the food containers. People tend to
feel sorry for your fish and give them only "a bit more" which usually is
100 times too much.

The problem I now have is my single fry. He will be
> about 7-9 weeks old by then so think that he might be a bit young for
> infrequent feeding. Was also worried about his water changes. The
> 55g will be done before we go away and my friend is going to take a
> couple of gallons off and add some aged water in there. The Fluval
> is so good that I have faith it will be ok for the 2 weeks. The
> little 10g with the fry in will have a filter working by then but as
> he is so small I am worried about her scooping him up.

If you'll be gone less than 3 or 4 weeks have her skip the water changes.

Feel like a
> new mom. I suppose 5 weeks from now he is going to be a whole lot
> bigger so am probably worrying prematurely.
>
> Any help with this neuroticism greatly recieved
> Mellie
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[Nikki]

i cant think of any reason the dapnia would be a problem, but not positive
also maybe the yellow from a cooked egg.
Nik




"Mellie101" > wrote in message
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> Hi, thanks Nikki. I haven't put a filter in yet as I only got it last
> week and haven't had the time to test it yet. I've been doing 10%
> water changes every 2-3 days but have been doing water tests and it is
> all good. The little bugger is getting bigger by the day. So cute. I
> have an air stone in there and a small undergravel filter that covers
> 1/3 of the tank so there is some filteration. I'm still crushing flake
> food for him. Was going to ask when and what I can change it to
> something else. I have some freeze dried dapnia that is very small so
> was wandering if he could have that occasionally?
>
> I'm doing ok with the bigger goldfish but I'm scared to death of the
> little one :-)
>
> Mellie
>

[Koi-Lo]

Moments before spontaneously combusting <Nikki> at
> was heard opining:
> ****only my opinion***
> Every thing I have ever read said that goldfish, especially the type
> we have are prone to swimmers bladder, in which case eating flakes
> from the top is bad because they are taking in air which adds to the
> problem, I started using wardley goldfish crumbles (slow sinking) it
> goes down rather quick and they eat it on the way down and off the
> bottom, seem to like it a lot,

The Shrimp Pellets also sink and GF love 'em.

I still do give flakes because of
> verity but only a couple times a week, then at least 1-2 times a week
> I try giving them pea's and it seems to be working out pretty good
> for them. I do pea's either the day before or the day I am doing
> water changes, just to be safe as not to file the tank to much. On
> the other hand before having that info I used to always feed my
> goldfish flakes and never had a problem. The only problem with the
> sinking food is if they dont eat it all and it rots in the gravel and
> they then eat it they can get sick,

Only speaking for my GF now, but well fed healthy GF wont eat foul
decomposing food. I think most of us learn how much to feed per feeding and
so don't have rotting food on the bottom. They will usually scour the
gravel for every last dropped morsel at feeding time.

I have never seen mine miss or
> leave a piece however they are little piggy's.

There you go! ;-)

> As far as going away and the baby, I would do the tank the day before
> leaving, maybe if he is big enough by then it wont be a problem, make
> sure she takes the water out with something she can inspect after
> before dumping the water out. what are you feeding the little guy
> now, maybe show her how you do it. I cant remember how you have it
> set up filter and stuff Nik
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Aquariums since 1952
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[Koi-Lo]

Moments before spontaneously combusting <Mellie101> at
> was heard opining:

> Hi, thanks Nikki. I haven't put a filter in yet as I only got it last
> week and haven't had the time to test it yet. I've been doing 10%
> water changes every 2-3 days but have been doing water tests and it is
> all good. The little bugger is getting bigger by the day. So cute.
> I have an air stone in there and a small undergravel filter that
> covers 1/3 of the tank so there is some filteration. I'm still
> crushing flake food for him. Was going to ask when and what I can
> change it to something else. I have some freeze dried dapnia that is
> very small so was wandering if he could have that occasionally?

The more variety you give him the faster he'll grow.

> I'm doing ok with the bigger goldfish but I'm scared to death of the
> little one :-)
>
> Mellie
--
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Aquariums since 1952
Aquarium FAQ are at: http://faq.thekrib.com/
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[Nikki]

"Koi-Lo" > wrote in message
...
> Moments before spontaneously combusting <Mellie101> at
> > was heard opining:
>
>> Hello to everybody. Just a quick question to ask about 'floating
>> pellets' for goldfish. Does this not go against everything I have
>> ever read about feeding goldfish? Would this not encourage swim
>> bladder problems? I went to my local Petco and they were the only
>> pellets I could find. Very confused.
>
> All my GF get pellets along with their other foods. I haven't had a
> floater in years,
>
>> Going on Vacation soon for 2 weeks and was going to get an automatic
>> feeder for the 55g. Problem there is my Ryukin is suffering from what
>> I guess is constipation as she floats on and off.
>
> If it's a deformed swim-bladder constipation has nothing to do with it.
> You can start giving them orange sliced thinly. Remove uneaten portion
> after several hours. This has a lot of fiber. They may also enjoy
> nibbling cukes and zucchinis.
>
> I starve one day a
>> week and have cut feeding down. So I thought that maybe I'll just get
>> my friend to come over a few times during my vacation and give them a
>> measured amount.
>
> Yes, measure it before hand and HIDE the food containers. People tend to
> feel sorry for your fish and give them only "a bit more" which usually is
> 100 times too much.
>
> The problem I now have is my single fry. He will be
>> about 7-9 weeks old by then so think that he might be a bit young for
>> infrequent feeding. Was also worried about his water changes. The
>> 55g will be done before we go away and my friend is going to take a
>> couple of gallons off and add some aged water in there. The Fluval
>> is so good that I have faith it will be ok for the 2 weeks. The
>> little 10g with the fry in will have a filter working by then but as
>> he is so small I am worried about her scooping him up.
>
> If you'll be gone less than 3 or 4 weeks have her skip the water changes.
>
> Feel like a
>> new mom. I suppose 5 weeks from now he is going to be a whole lot
>> bigger so am probably worrying prematurely.
>>
>> Any help with this neuroticism greatly recieved
>> Mellie
> --
> Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
> Aquariums since 1952
> My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
> http://tinyurl.com/9do58
> Aquarium FAQ are at:
> http://faq.thekrib.com/
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>
>
>
Yeah i was thinking they have those tiny plastic baggies, you could put the
right amount in each one for each day and put the day on it or something
along those lines, its true i went on vacation and my mom fed our oscar's
and every one but my mom knew they are pigs and will contnute to eat as much
as your willing to give, and thats what i heard, Nik you must not feed him
well because he just kept eating and eating, ugh i said mom i feed him, he
is just a pig when it comes to food. and my pacu's they were big boys, she
was giving them cheese puffs, did not hurt them any but they would beg at
the front of the tank when they seen chip bags after that..
Nik

[Mellie101]

Thats hillarious. Would love to watch your fish follow a packet of
cheese puffs. :-)
Thanks everybody for the advice. Going to try some Dapnia later and
see if he like it. Egg yolk tomorrow. My husband jokes that the fish
eat better than him.

Wish i'd taken some pictures of my fry when I found him last week to
compare the difference in size. I can see how he has grown as he is
easier to find in the tank now. Only takes me 2 minutes to find him
rather than the 5 before :-) He is an olive colour now and not so
translucent.

Thanks again girls
Mellie

[Daniel Morrow]

Bottom posted.
"Mellie101" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Hello to everybody. Just a quick question to ask about 'floating
> pellets' for goldfish. Does this not go against everything I have ever
> read about feeding goldfish? Would this not encourage swim bladder
> problems? I went to my local Petco and they were the only pellets I
> could find. Very confused.
>
> Going on Vacation soon for 2 weeks and was going to get an automatic
> feeder for the 55g. Problem there is my Ryukin is suffering from what
> I guess is constipation as she floats on and off. I starve one day a
> week and have cut feeding down. So I thought that maybe I'll just get
> my friend to come over a few times during my vacation and give them a
> measured amount. The problem I now have is my single fry. He will be
> about 7-9 weeks old by then so think that he might be a bit young for
> infrequent feeding. Was also worried about his water changes. The 55g
> will be done before we go away and my friend is going to take a couple
> of gallons off and add some aged water in there. The Fluval is so good
> that I have faith it will be ok for the 2 weeks. The little 10g with
> the fry in will have a filter working by then but as he is so small I
> am worried about her scooping him up. Feel like a new mom. I suppose
> 5 weeks from now he is going to be a whole lot bigger so am probably
> worrying prematurely.
>
> Any help with this neuroticism greatly recieved
> Mellie
>

If you get an automatic feeder and want the feeding to not happen at certain
times (fast (starve) once a week etc.) get a rondomatic like I just ordered.
The one problem with it is that it is expensive ($67 something plus shipping
like mine) but is seems to be totally customizable (even supposedly handles
liquid medications) and handles I think the biggest potential food loads
(i.e. if you have a very large tank with large fish it tends to at the very
least feed them enough) and you can leave one or more of the feeding session
bowls/compartments empty so you can fast (starve) fish one or more days/etc.
a week for example. The other automatic feeders tend to have very
restrictive feeding options (like the cheap daily double 2 which feeds only
twice a day at 12 hour intervals just like an analog (old style) clock (it
is kind of like a bucket on the hour arm/hand of one of those old analog
clocks, when the bucket reaches the bottom the fish food falls out (a
certain amount) via the force of gravity and therefore feeds your fish), the
nutramatic (cheap) is similar but more reliable and works more off of an
electronic timer than it does gears (as far as timing goes), the lazy Susan
is similar to the daily double but works horizontally but is much less
reliable unless you jimmy-rig it to have an air pump powered air hose to get
the food to actually fall through much more reliably so basically it tends
to barely work at all but is better than having nothing I guess, the others
I don't know much about but the nutramatic has less food capacity than the
daily double 2 but seems to work good. Good luck and later!

[Altum]

Koi-Lo wrote:
> Moments before spontaneously combusting <Mellie101> at
> > was heard opining:

Spontaneously combusting aquarists? *blink*

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[Koi-Lo]

Moments before spontaneously combusting <Altum> at
> was heard opining:

> Koi-Lo wrote:
>> Moments before spontaneously combusting <Mellie101> at
>> > was heard opining:
>
> Spontaneously combusting aquarists? *blink*
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