angel & gourami's

[Nikki]

I got three baby angel's each about the size of a penny, and two little blue
gourami's,
if any one is around should I just float them in the tank, I got them about
an hour ago.
This is what I have always done however I think netmax told me before when I
got fish last time that when you open the bag, something happens to the
water that can kill them, I have not taken the rubber band's off the bags
yet, so any suggestions maybe I should just get a container and add some of
my water little by little instead of doing it in the bag as I normally
would.
Nik

ps when I am done with this I wanted to post about this place I went today,
its kind of a fish store they have three floors of breeding tanks and fish,
they had full grown discus, and so many different Cichlids, pretty much any
fish you could think of, he had angels that were huge they breed them their
they were beautiful.

[Mister Gardener]

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:59:35 -0400, "Nikki"
> wrote:

>I got three baby angel's each about the size of a penny, and two little blue
>gourami's,
>if any one is around should I just float them in the tank, I got them about
>an hour ago.
>This is what I have always done however I think netmax told me before when I
>got fish last time that when you open the bag, something happens to the
>water that can kill them, I have not taken the rubber band's off the bags
>yet, so any suggestions maybe I should just get a container and add some of
>my water little by little instead of doing it in the bag as I normally
>would.
>Nik

You can do it in the bag or in a separate container. I use a big
measuring cup, half gallon size, or a juice pitcher. I dump the water
and fish from the bag into my clean container, then add a half cup of
water from my tank about every 15 minutes. As the container gets full,
sometimes I have to scoop some water back out to make room for more
tank water, if the store put a really lot of water in the bag. I do
this until I have them in a lot more tank water than store water. Then
I pour them through a net and from net to tank. The water goes down
the sink, not in the aquarium. I usually sit the container on the
aquarium or strip light, somewhere to keep the temperature from
dropping. You can do the same thing with a bag floating in the tank,
but I usually lose the bag half way through and end up dumping them,
water and all, before they're really ready. A newspaper or dishtowel
over the container helps calm the fish, and it's also recommended that
you turn your aquarium lights off so the new fish aren't blinded by
the light, (cut loose like a goose another runner in the night), but I
don't usually think about the aquarium light until too late. This is
one of those rare times when I use my Python net - you know the kind
with the tighter weave super soft mesh and the green handle -
especially for my angels and cats, these nets are much less likely to
snag a pointy thing on the fish.

-- Mister Gardener

[Nikki]

"Mister Gardener" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:59:35 -0400, "Nikki"
> > wrote:
>
>>I got three baby angel's each about the size of a penny, and two little
>>blue
>>gourami's,
>>if any one is around should I just float them in the tank, I got them
>>about
>>an hour ago.
>>This is what I have always done however I think netmax told me before when
>>I
>>got fish last time that when you open the bag, something happens to the
>>water that can kill them, I have not taken the rubber band's off the bags
>>yet, so any suggestions maybe I should just get a container and add some
>>of
>>my water little by little instead of doing it in the bag as I normally
>>would.
>>Nik
>
> You can do it in the bag or in a separate container. I use a big
> measuring cup, half gallon size, or a juice pitcher. I dump the water
> and fish from the bag into my clean container, then add a half cup of
> water from my tank about every 15 minutes. As the container gets full,
> sometimes I have to scoop some water back out to make room for more
> tank water, if the store put a really lot of water in the bag. I do
> this until I have them in a lot more tank water than store water. Then
> I pour them through a net and from net to tank. The water goes down
> the sink, not in the aquarium. I usually sit the container on the
> aquarium or strip light, somewhere to keep the temperature from
> dropping. You can do the same thing with a bag floating in the tank,
> but I usually lose the bag half way through and end up dumping them,
> water and all, before they're really ready. A newspaper or dishtowel
> over the container helps calm the fish, and it's also recommended that
> you turn your aquarium lights off so the new fish aren't blinded by
> the light, (cut loose like a goose another runner in the night), but I
> don't usually think about the aquarium light until too late. This is
> one of those rare times when I use my Python net - you know the kind
> with the tighter weave super soft mesh and the green handle -
> especially for my angels and cats, these nets are much less likely to
> snag a pointy thing on the fish.
>
> -- Mister Gardener


All right finaly can sit down, these angels are soooo small, they are going
in the gourami tank until the 120 gallon is finished being set up (meaning
my husband finishes putting up the metal screw pool thingy's and board in
our basement to reinforce which i got him to start the other day) i got
three angels they said these three have been together all the time so maybe
i got a pair. I also got two female blue gourami's, they are much smaller
then mine who is 2 years old, but he is not aggressive at all which is nice,
as a matter a fact he pays no attention to any other fish.

Being you like angel's an netmax like Cichlids, you would love this place i
went today its the one i told you that breeds the angels, its called all
oddball something or another....they had every cichlid you could think of,
except hybreds (sp?) I ask him about those parrot cichlids and he said they
dont have anything mixed or painted because they dont like that. but i was
lost in there for about two hours, he had full grown discus sp? they were so
neat, and angel discus, which i never seen before, i ask him if i could
bring a camra up he said yes that was fine, i want you guys to see some of
the rare fish he has, i got to go up next week to get microworm culture to
breed the betta's so i will do it then.
Nik
i have a list of allot of the fish he has, he ships fish to if any one is
every looking for some they can not find.

[Koi-Lo]

"Nikki" > wrote in message
...
>I got three baby angel's each about the size of a penny, and two little
>blue gourami's,
> if any one is around should I just float them in the tank, I got them
> about an hour ago.

You can do that but start adding small amounts of water every 10 minutes or
so until the water in the bag is mostly tank water. You may have to spill
some off before starting to add your water.

> This is what I have always done however I think netmax told me before when
> I got fish last time that when you open the bag, something happens to the
> water that can kill them, I have not taken the rubber band's off the bags
> yet, so any suggestions maybe I should just get a container and add some
> of my water little by little instead of doing it in the bag as I normally
> would.

That's how I do it. Then when the water in the container is mostly my tank
water I gently remove the fish from the container and put them in the tank.

> Nik
>
> ps when I am done with this I wanted to post about this place I went
> today, its kind of a fish store they have three floors of breeding tanks
> and fish, they had full grown discus, and so many different Cichlids,
> pretty much any fish you could think of, he had angels that were huge they
> breed them their they were beautiful.
--
Koi-Lo.... the ReelMcKoi
Frugal ponding since 1995.
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[Mister Gardener]

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:45:32 -0400, "Nikki"
> wrote:

>All right finaly can sit down, these angels are soooo small, they are going
>in the gourami tank until the 120 gallon is finished being set up (meaning
>my husband finishes putting up the metal screw pool thingy's and board in
>our basement to reinforce which i got him to start the other day) i got
>three angels they said these three have been together all the time so maybe
>i got a pair. I also got two female blue gourami's, they are much smaller
>then mine who is 2 years old, but he is not aggressive at all which is nice,
>as a matter a fact he pays no attention to any other fish.
>
>Being you like angel's an netmax like Cichlids, you would love this place i
>went today its the one i told you that breeds the angels, its called all
>oddball something or another....they had every cichlid you could think of,
>except hybreds (sp?) I ask him about those parrot cichlids and he said they
>dont have anything mixed or painted because they dont like that. but i was
>lost in there for about two hours, he had full grown discus sp? they were so
>neat, and angel discus, which i never seen before, i ask him if i could
>bring a camra up he said yes that was fine, i want you guys to see some of
>the rare fish he has, i got to go up next week to get microworm culture to
>breed the betta's so i will do it then.
>Nik
>i have a list of allot of the fish he has, he ships fish to if any one is
>every looking for some they can not find.
>
Sounds like a cool place. I've had a glimpse at their web site, I
think, someone, maybe you, sent it to me before. Thanks for thinking
of me -

-- Mister Gardener

[Mister Gardener]

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:45:32 -0400, "Nikki"
> wrote:
>>
>>>I got three baby angel's each about the size of a penny,
>
>All right finaly can sit down, these angels are soooo small, they are going
>in the gourami tank until the 120 gallon is finished being set up

Penny size is really young for an angel. Make sure they have a good
clump of plants where they can disappear and hide out. Dense plantings
with vertical leaves makes them feel safe, they think their stripes
(even if they don't have stripes!) are blending in with the leaves -
Vallisnaria, Saggitaria, Echinodorus, any of the stem plants, etc.
Also make sure they are getting plenty to eat - flakes of course, but
also freeze dried bloodworms or brine shrimp. Feed at least three
times a day while they're this young. Take good care of them, I know
you will.

-- Mister Gardener