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Black Shuck
April 15th 06, 06:04 PM
It's been a week since the last of my fish died, I think I have got over
the shock :-)

Anyway, I now need to start things again. Visted a local shop today, and
asked what I needed todo to ensure whatever killed all my other fish, will
not kill any more. He agreed, that what killed them, was a parasite
infestation, rather than a fungus infection. He also said, that because
my tank has now been empty of fish for the last week that any parasite
would have died, as there was no host fish to breed on. (this sounds
plausable)


Wanted to ask what the general opinion here was. Basically it's has the
last of the infected fish, but it otherwise clean water, new sand, but
existing filter. The guy at the shop suggest "chucking" some protozin in,
half a bottle, and leaving it 1 few days, just to be sure!!

Does any of this sound like good advice? (the last bit was what worried
me...).

I don't want to drain the tank, disinfect the filter and pump, and bake
the sand as previously suggested, unless everyone thinks it's absoltuly
essential.

Thanks.

Koi-Lo
April 15th 06, 07:38 PM
"Black Shuck" > wrote in message
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I don't want to drain the tank, disinfect the filter and pump, and bake
the sand as previously suggested, unless everyone thinks it's absoltuly
essential.
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If there's no live plants in the tank you can double the recommended salt
dosage for parasites and use Clout. Before adding new fish do a few 75%
water changes. That should take care of just about any parasites still
lurking in the tank or filter. You can also Google aquarium+fish+parasites
for more information.
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swarvegorilla
April 16th 06, 03:49 AM
Put the temperature right up.
If there are parasites they should hatch and live out their life cycle muchg
better.
remember parasites are only a problem if the environment favours them over
fish.
Ensure your water is good (0ammonia, 0nitrite less than 40ppm nitrate) and
you will be surprised at what continue to live healthily.
Often some high quality fish food like spirulina flakes, frozen brine shrimp
or the like will keep fish far healthier than medications.
And always they regular partial water changes.
Always a reason behind parasite outbreaks, but without a microscope your
blind even to the species.... they are all very different.
Kill your snails if you have any.

Frank
April 17th 06, 09:42 AM
Black Shuck wrote,
>He agreed, that what killed them, was a parasite
>infestation, rather than a fungus infection...

I didn't think you ever saw anything (parasites) on the fish(?) I took
a week trip to Florida durning that time and it was all over with by
the time I got back. With no visible symptoms, but had uncoordinated
swimming just before dying, my thoughts were along the lines of a
fungus called Saprolegnia - invades the gulls causing suffocation...

>He also said, that because
>my tank has now been empty of fish for the last week that any parasite
>would have died, as there was no host fish to breed on.....

Hmmm - not so sure about that. What could have died however, is most of
the bacteria within your filter (no food for a week). You might want to
add a drop or two per gal. of pure ammonia to the tank. After a few
hours, if the filter hasn't metabolised the ammonia and nitrite, you
may have to 'feed' the tank a few drops of pure ammonia every day for a
few days to build the bacterial colony back up enough to support a
bio-load.

>The guy at the shop suggest "chucking" some protozin in,
>half a bottle, and leaving it 1 few days, just to be sure!!
>Does any of this sound like good advice?

No since in treating an empty tank - buy the fish and if need be, put
them through a quarantine preventive treatment. ............... Frank

Black Shuck
April 17th 06, 09:07 PM
Well I have put 13 Tablespoons of rock salt in the tank (50 Litre tank),
turned the heater up to max, and will leave it a few days, partial water
change to reduce the salt level, turn the temp back down to normal, and
start introducing some new fish, see how it goes...



On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 18:04:59 +0100, Black Shuck >
wrote:

> It's been a week since the last of my fish died, I think I have got over
> the shock :-)
>
> Anyway, I now need to start things again. Visted a local shop today,
> and asked what I needed todo to ensure whatever killed all my other
> fish, will not kill any more. He agreed, that what killed them, was a
> parasite infestation, rather than a fungus infection. He also said,
> that because my tank has now been empty of fish for the last week that
> any parasite would have died, as there was no host fish to breed on.
> (this sounds plausable)
>
>
> Wanted to ask what the general opinion here was. Basically it's has the
> last of the infected fish, but it otherwise clean water, new sand, but
> existing filter. The guy at the shop suggest "chucking" some protozin
> in, half a bottle, and leaving it 1 few days, just to be sure!!
>
> Does any of this sound like good advice? (the last bit was what worried
> me...).
>
> I don't want to drain the tank, disinfect the filter and pump, and bake
> the sand as previously suggested, unless everyone thinks it's absoltuly
> essential.
>
> Thanks.



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Black Shuck
April 19th 06, 08:05 AM
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:16:40 +0100, swarvegorilla
> wrote:

> I reccomend getting some filter media from a friend or fishshops healthy
> tank and putting it in your filter.
> Salt swing can knock bacteria around.
> You should also get ammonia/nitrite readings done on the tank water and
> don't put anything in until ammonia and nitrite are zero.
> Leave the filters running and just feed the empty tank fish food.
> Maybe get some nice plants established, They will enjoy the ammonia
> spikes
> and use it to put down roots. You will also get a bit of algae build up
> if
> you have lights. This is good news if you want an algae eating cat as
> once
> you have a bit growing ya can introduce one and it will be right at home.
>

Thanks for this. Will do as suggested.