Insects eating lily leaves

[Jerry Jackson]

My three year old pond is thick with lilys whose leaves have a >lot< of tiny
black insects on them. They first showed up last Fall and have renewed
themselves on this years crop. The bugs are about the size of the head on a
sewing pin. What are they and how can I eliminate them? I have a few
goldfish & catfish. Thanks for any suggestions.

Jerry in San Antonio

[Don C.]

Jerry,
When I had this a couple of years ago I used a hose to wash the insects
off the leaves and the fish took care of them.
drc

"Jerry Jackson" > wrote in message
...
> My three year old pond is thick with lilys whose leaves have a >lot< of
> tiny black insects on them. They first showed up last Fall and have
> renewed themselves on this years crop. The bugs are about the size of the
> head on a sewing pin. What are they and how can I eliminate them? I have
> a few goldfish & catfish. Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> Jerry in San Antonio
>

[Koi-Lo]

"Don C." > wrote in message
. ..
> Jerry,
> When I had this a couple of years ago I used a hose to wash the insects
> off the leaves and the fish took care of them.
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My goldfish and koi wont eat black or green aphids. I had to remove the one
infected lily and use a vegetable-garden spray on it. I returned it to the
pond a week or so later.
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[Koi-Lo]

Just call Carol or Derek or Snooze up.they will suck them insects
right off those plants......

On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:34:15 -0400, "Don C." >
wrote:

>x<>-Jerry,
>x<>- When I had this a couple of years ago I used a hose to wash the insects
>x<>-off the leaves and the fish took care of them.
>x<>-drc
>x<>-
>x<>-"Jerry Jackson" > wrote in message
...
>x<>-> My three year old pond is thick with lilys whose leaves have a >lot< of
>x<>-> tiny black insects on them. They first showed up last Fall and have
>x<>-> renewed themselves on this years crop. The bugs are about the size of the
>x<>-> head on a sewing pin. What are they and how can I eliminate them? I have
>x<>-> a few goldfish & catfish. Thanks for any suggestions.
>x<>->
>x<>-> Jerry in San Antonio
>x<>->

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[Derek Broughton]

Jerry Jackson wrote:

> My three year old pond is thick with lilys whose leaves have a >lot< of
> tiny
> black insects on them. They first showed up last Fall and have renewed
> themselves on this years crop. The bugs are about the size of the head on
> a
> sewing pin. What are they and how can I eliminate them? I have a few
> goldfish & catfish. Thanks for any suggestions.

Most likely aphids. Rinse them off regularly. The fish _may_ eat them
(always worked for me, often doesn't for others - I'll never understand
fish :-) ). If the fish don't, at least the aphids aren't going to like
it.
--
derek

[~ janj]

>My three year old pond is thick with lilys whose leaves have a >lot< of tiny
>black insects on them. They first showed up last Fall and have renewed
>themselves on this years crop. The bugs are about the size of the head on a
>sewing pin. What are they and how can I eliminate them? I have a few
>goldfish & catfish. Thanks for any suggestions.
>
>Jerry in San Antonio

IME, hosing off just carried the aphids to my other plants. I found the
best thing to do was get in the pond and squish them. This kills the aphids
and the eggs, whereas hosing does not remove the sticky eggs. I only have
to do this about twice, as aphids on lily pads are only there via flying
adults. As long as aphids have plenty to eat, they don't sprout wings. Thus
you may only be infected now, but not again.... YMMV due to zone. ~ jan
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[Derek Broughton]

~ janj wrote:

> As long as aphids have plenty to eat, they don't sprout
> wings.

I never knew that...
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I tried the hosing em off, my koi werent interested. so I took the plants out put
them into a deeper tub of water and used copper sulfate or PP in the water to kill
em. Ingrid


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On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:38:09 -0300, Derek Broughton
> wrote:
>><>~ janj wrote:
>><>
>><>> As long as aphids have plenty to eat, they don't sprout
>><>> wings.
>><>
>><>I never knew that...

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[Koi-Lo]

"~ janj" > wrote in message
...
> IME, hosing off just carried the aphids to my other plants. I found the
> best thing to do was get in the pond and squish them. This kills the
> aphids
> and the eggs, whereas hosing does not remove the sticky eggs. I only have
> to do this about twice, as aphids on lily pads are only there via flying
> adults. As long as aphids have plenty to eat, they don't sprout wings.
> Thus
> you may only be infected now, but not again.... YMMV due to zone. ~ jan
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If it's a large lily like mine was it would be almost impossible to find and
squish them all. They reproduce so fast it would have had to be done every
few days. I didn't want them spreading to the other lilies. It was easier
to remove them and use the safest possible insecticide on them. Neither my
GF, rosy reds or koi would eat them.
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Aquariums since 1952.
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